[klb5090]

mr fatty, any chance for some co-op tonight?
if not and dakar and crosbie are on possibly some multi?

[sek929]

Eh, no-go for me tonight. I should be available the rest of the week though Boguesy.

I'm really just to scared of Insane difficulty...

[Stogieman]

Chicken ****! There's nothing to be scared of. I'm already at the Hive level on insane difficulty.
Of course playing with Dakar (on Hardcore) and saving my ass every 2 minutes sure helps.

I'll be online at 7:30pm

[Dakar V]

I just got up and am making myself food right now. I'll be on in the next half-hour, I think.

[jonasmac]

Originally Posted by jokell82 

The power of the shotty in 2 is MUCH lower than the 1st one. It's also very dangerous to stay zoomed in with it while moving in for the kill, as you'll get chainsawed before you get close enough to do damage.

The new technique is to "dance" around, firing more from the hip.

Yes, in GOW2, the shotgun is depowered and muuuuuuch slower. It's also wildly inconsistent and very useless against the chainsaw now.

The technique of "dancing" around and blind firing is actually from GOW1. When blind firing from the hip, your gun automatically shot at the middle of your screen. In GOW2, however, shooting from the hip is not reliable. You'll see many of your bullets hit the ground or shoot left or right of your intended target. The shotty was the equalizer in GOW1, it gave you a shot to best multiple enemies at close range.

I like GOW2. I'd like it even more with my old shotty.

[jonasmac]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

I wouldn't mind pointers either. I'm guessing my biggest mistake is aiming for the body. I caught a guy full in the body yesterday with the shotty, and my reward was being blown to bits by him a moment later. Should you always aim high with the shotgun (Try to blow their head off)?

I don't normally aim high with the shotty. It's usually aimed right at the chest because of the wide surface area, and better chance for damage. In GOW2, you need to aim and be fairly close. Trick is to close the distance by strafing left or right of your opponent and try not to fire from too far away. You gotta get in close. Right now, bullet lag is a major issue for the shotgun, so YMMV.

You can also "two-piece" your opponent by punching him (B button), then immediately firing off your shotty. You'll down or destroy 'im. Some people in GOW1 consider that technique cheap, but in GOW2, I haven't heard too many complaints other than the norm.

It's funny that many of the "cheap"/"newb" moves many complained about in GOW1 (e.g. over-chainsawing, two-piecing, beatdowns, frag-tagging) are some of the most widely used moves I've seen in GOW2 matchmaking. Cool with me....

[Stogieman]

For those of us who are having a hard time finding all 41 collectibles (like Dakar & I), here is a great walkthrough with text & videos.

http://www.mahalo.com/Gears_of_War_2_Walkthrough

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by jonasmac 

The technique of "dancing" around and blind firing is actually from GOW1. When blind firing from the hip, your gun automatically shot at the middle of your screen. In GOW2, however, shooting from the hip is not reliable. You'll see many of your bullets hit the ground or shoot left or right of your intended target. The shotty was the equalizer in GOW1, it gave you a shot to best multiple enemies at close range..

So the shotgun is actually as inconsistent as I've thought? Holy crap.

Originally Posted by jonasmac 

Right now, bullet lag is a major issue for the shotgun, so YMMV.

I've been thinking that too.

Originally Posted by jonasmac 

You can also "two-piece" your opponent by punching him (B button), then immediately firing off your shotty. You'll down or destroy 'im. Some people in GOW1 consider that technique cheap, but in GOW2, I haven't heard too many complaints other than the norm.

Having come from Halo, I know this as a way of life.

Actually I was doing it 1 a bit, too.

[QUOTE=jonasmac;3767184The technique of "dancing" around and blind firing is actually from GOW1. When blind firing from the hip, your gun automatically shot at the middle of your screen. In GOW2, however, shooting from the hip is not reliable. You'll see many of your bullets hit the ground or shoot left or right of your intended target. The shotty was the equalizer in GOW1, it gave you a shot to best multiple enemies at close range..[/QUOTE]So the shotgun is actually as inconsistent as I've thought? Holy crap.

Originally Posted by jonasmac 

It's funny that many of the "cheap"/"newb" moves many complained about in GOW1 (e.g. over-chainsawing, two-piecing, beatdowns, frag-tagging) are some of the most widely used moves I've seen in GOW2 matchmaking. Cool with me....

It's a little messed up that it's easier to hit a person physically with the shotgun (beat down) than shooting it.


The other thing I've been noting is the strange buzzsaw behavior. Other than thinking it should engage earlier than it does, I have had people sawme when I've had it up and was turning to face them, but more strangely, I've been firing at them with it, and they've approached me head on and this caused a saw battle. That shouldn't even occur for a multitude of reasons.

Also, it's practically impossible for me to win those battles.

[Dakar V]

Well, I hate to see it happen, but it looks like stogie is gonna get his Insane achievement. I think we got through the worst the game has to offer last night, and it should be smooth sailing from here on out.

Edit: I also broke 3k kills last night.

[sek929]

3K? Man, I'm reaaaally falling behind in this game.

[Dakar V]

Do you even play it?

Actually, with the Thanksgiving break we should organize some type of Meet-up. Thoughts? Any particular time/day good for everyone?

[sek929]

Not much the past few weeks. I guess my marathon 10+ hr day really burnt me out.

I have nothing going on, so any day/time is good for me.

[Dakar V]

With exception to Geofries, I suspect I may be kills leader. stogie and kb shouldn't be much behind, though.

[sek929]

I refuse to play if that loser Bogues hasn't got a mic yet.

[klb5090]

Originally Posted by sek929 

I refuse to play if that loser Bogues hasn't got a mic yet.

i have a mic, no worries, no worries

[Dakar V]

He's back home, so we get to hear his open-mouth breathing and everything.

[Geofries]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

With exception to Geofries, I suspect I may be kills leader. stogie and kb shouldn't be much behind, though.

I can't possibly have more kills than anyone. How do you check?

[Dakar V]

There's no way to get an accurate measurement outside of when the bar moves every 100... but considering the amount of multiplayer you've done I just assumed.

[Geofries]

Oh, I see. Well everyone should surpass me, seeing as the annoyance of multi combined with me getting back into Oblvion is not leaving me with much Gow2 action at all.

[Stogieman]

Originally Posted by Dakar V

Well, I hate to see it happen, but it looks like stogie is gonna get his Insane achievement.

And it looks like I'll get it before Fatty & Bogues. Who would have thought?

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

Edit: I also broke 3k kills last night.

Me too!

[alpha_l33t]

Its..... okay.

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by sek929 

3K? Man, I'm reaaaally falling behind in this game.

I know the answer! Play The Orange Box!

---

So I'm leaving work early today, anyone want to do a mid-afternoon meet-up?

[Geofries]

Ill be on about 430 today

[klb5090]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

I know the answer! Play The Orange Box!

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So I'm leaving work early today, anyone want to do a mid-afternoon meet-up?

i'll be on probably around 5pm

[sek929]

Maybe later, and I might be playing with a total n00b, but I'll be on.

[sek929]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

I know the answer! Play The Orange Box!

Gordon Freeman was calling to me....

[analogue SPRINKLES]

I like gears 2 but it is too much like the last one with very little new. The whole game looks pretty but rather two dimensional because of the flat, bland colour pallet. It is also repetitive as hell, just cover and shoot swarms... move on.

Still pretty fun though.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

I like gears 2 but it is too much like the last one with very little new. The whole game looks pretty but rather two dimensional because of the flat, bland colour pallet. It is also repetitive as hell, just cover and shoot swarms... move on.

Still pretty fun though.

[Dakar V]

I'll be on shortly...

[Dakar V]

stogie... for some reason the game didn't give me the final co-op achievement... But I can't figure why.

[Stogieman]

Haha, looks like Fatty is playing every single game in his library but GoW2.

That sucks Dakar. How far is the progress bar on the co-op achievement?

[ort888]

I hear they patched the matchmaking. I'll test it later, but hopefully they fixed my main complaint.

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by Stogieman 

Haha, looks like Fatty is playing every single game in his library but GoW2.

That sucks Dakar. How far is the progress bar on the co-op achievement?

Like almost all the way. I think if we beat it the last chapter again and sit through the credits that may be all it takes.

Worth a shot, at least.

[jokell82]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

Like almost all the way. I think if we beat it the last chapter again and sit through the credits that may be all it takes.

Worth a shot, at least.

The Coop achievement comes before the credits.

[Dakar V]

Well great, now I'm ****ed.

[mattyb]

Anybody patched yet? Is the matchmaking any better?

[Geofries]

Seems hit or miss. Twice I got nearly instantly into a game. Th othe two times it took about 15 minutes total.

[Dakar V]

It's more reliable, but it's still capable of looking for another team forever, if you let it. I wouldn't let it go more than 2 minutes before resetting it, and the results have been decent.

Still getting a ton of games with either lag or missing players, though.

[Geofries]

The games I got into, everyone was dropping. Just frustrating.

[Dakar V]

There's a lot of peeps who give up if a round takes too long, or they lose the first round. Best I can tell, it's not a bad deal, as the post game stats would indicate you don't take a hit to your per-game numbers. It might even be beneficial to trying to level up.

[Dakar V]

So, are the two doúches that talked me into buying this game ever going to play it again?

[sek929]

I've been thinking about it. My recent vampire-like schedule kinda makes me miss the times you guys are online.

[Dakar V]

Yeah, I'd have given you even more crap, but it didn't look like you did any gaming last week (Just Netflix & DVDs).

The week before, however, was a turnstile for games not named Gears.

[sek929]

Hmm, what to play next?

Forza 2? F.E.A.R.? BK Pocketbike Racer?

Choices, choices...

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by sek929 

BK Pocketbike Racer?

That might be my favorite thing to find in your games played list when I'm bored and browsing 'tags.

[sek929]

It's a surprisingly good game considering it was 5 bucks with a value meal or something.

[Dakar V]

I recall hearing that when it came out. I was 360less back then.

[sek929]

It was for classic Xbox too.

[Dakar V]

stogie, any chance you might want to hit Gears 1 back up this weekend? We really should finish that bitch up on Hardcore.

[Stogieman]

Sure, I need to pull myself away from Little Big Planet on the PS3.