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Weyland-Yutani · Nov 9, 2005, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

That works! Strange, but it worked for me...

Good

cheers

W-Y

DarwinX · Nov 9, 2005, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Here is a tip for posting new threads. Write your post and name the thread something like: A

Then you can post it. Just edit the name afterwards. Hope you solve this soon gzl!

cheers

W-Y

Wow! It worked for me too!

I feel so liberated!

besson3c · Nov 9, 2005, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Here is a tip for posting new threads. Write your post and name the thread something like: A

Then you can post it. Just edit the name afterwards. Hope you solve this soon gzl!

cheers

W-Y

That works! Strange, but it worked for me...

smitty825 · Nov 9, 2005, 01:27 AM

Good Call Weyland-Yutani! I can finally post my question! Hopefully this helps out the Admins, too!

gorgonzola · Nov 9, 2005, 05:20 AM

Talk about strange. This apparently might have something to do with the forum search indexes, so we did some maintenance on those tonight. (It was just as well, since we wanted to try out a different MySQL search feature that's much faster and reduces load on the database.) I'd be very curious to know if you notice any changes with thread creation (both with and without Weyland's tip -- especially without).

(Also, the Search Results page display bug should be fixed now.)

chipchen · Nov 9, 2005, 08:15 AM

Hmm.. was going to try the "hack" to post.. but I decided to just try like normal anyway, and it posted right away, not errors or anything. worked better than before even!

rickey939 · Nov 9, 2005, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Still cannot enter links w/ text correctly in v3.5.1, is that something on vB's end or the 'NN's?

Anybody know?

tooki · Nov 9, 2005, 10:47 AM

How do you mean? It's always been an 'NN issue -- we run our own vB server, it's not an outsourced system like some sites use. Something in the interaction between our vB server and our database server isn't quite right, and that's what gorgonzola's been hunting down.

tooki

besson3c · Nov 9, 2005, 12:23 PM

My thread posted without a hitch and without the hack.... immediate response.

Officially fixed?

gorgonzola · Nov 9, 2005, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

My thread posted without a hitch and without the hack.... immediate response.

Officially fixed?

If we can go a few days without any problems, then I'd call it officially fixed. All signs point to yes, though. I've also turned AJAX back on, so people can and should test everything now.

Now, what is this problem with posting links with text? Are you talking about something like this?

rickey939 · Nov 9, 2005, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by gorgonzola

Now, what is this problem with posting links with text? Are you talking about something like this?

http://www.yes.com

Correct, the "Insert Link" button when creating a message should prompt you to enter the URL (which it does), but also any text you want associated with that link (which is the part that is not working).

Make sense?

Person Man · Nov 9, 2005, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

How do you mean? It's always been an 'NN issue -- we run our own vB server, it's not an outsourced system like some sites use. Something in the interaction between our vB server and our database server isn't quite right, and that's what gorgonzola's been hunting down.

tooki

You know, how about putting the forum software and the database ON THE SAME SERVER?? It might solve some of the timeouts?

Even though that might not be related to the problem of the vB upgrade.

tooki · Nov 9, 2005, 02:31 PM

Nope, that'd be a terrible idea. The timeouts were not network-related in any way. The fact that only SOME functions were affected and not others clearly shows that it was not a communications error.

Besides, it is GOOD practice to separate functions to distribute the load. vB is CPU intensive, and it puts a high load on the database. It makes more sense to keep them separate.

tooki

gorgonzola · Nov 9, 2005, 02:39 PM

Not only is it a terrible idea, it's a standard technique for large-scale sites to separate services onto several different servers to reduce load. Almost no large site runs their servers in the way you're suggesting. Also, not only is the current problem unrelated to the database being on a separate server, no problem we have *ever* experienced has been in any way caused by this distribution of resources.

Diggory Laycock · Nov 9, 2005, 02:51 PM

Test post.

quickedit 1 , quickedit 2, quickedit 3.

Looks good (so far) on the AJAX-y-ness.

Demonhood · Nov 9, 2005, 03:10 PM

we need a "crossing fingers" emoticon solely for use in the feedback forum.

gorgonzola · Nov 9, 2005, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

http://www.yes.com

Correct, the "Insert Link" button when creating a message should prompt you to enter the URL (which it does), but also any text you want associated with that link (which is the part that is not working).

Make sense?

Try highlighting the text you want to link and then clicking that button.

rickey939 · Nov 9, 2005, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by gorgonzola

Try highlighting the text you want to link and then clicking that button.

Nope.http://www.that_does_not_work.com

stainboy · Nov 9, 2005, 03:55 PM

i've never been able to post feedback to articles, even though i've been registered here for a while. couldn't find any solutions here. did i miss something?

turtle777 · Nov 9, 2005, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by stainboy

i've never been able to post feedback to articles, even though i've been registered here for a while. couldn't find any solutions here. did i miss something?

What did you try to do ?
Did you click on that "reply" button ?
What happened ?

-t

Weyland-Yutani · Nov 9, 2005, 07:39 PM

I have not had a single timeout or error today. Everything regarding posting replies and threads seems to be working a ok. I hope the problems have been fixed and it holds

good work gzl!

cheers

W-Y

Dark Helmet · Nov 9, 2005, 11:34 PM

My best day ever on MacNN

rickey939 · Nov 10, 2005, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Correct, the "Insert Link" button when creating a message should prompt you to enter the URL (which it does), but also any text you want associated with that link (which is the part that is not working).

Make sense?

Just to make sure, everybody is experiencing this sort of behavior, correct?

tooki · Nov 11, 2005, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Nope.http://www.that_does_not_work.com

That's strictly a browser issue. Current public versions of Safari do not do this properly. (IE5:mac and iCab fail in the same way.) Some of the nightly builds of WebKit support it properly (so it'll come in Safari eventually), and it works perfectly in Camino, Opera, and Firefox.

So yeah, there's nothing we can do on the server side to make this work for you.

tooki

rickey939 · Nov 11, 2005, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

That's strictly a browser issue. Current public versions of Safari do not do this properly. (IE5:mac and iCab fail in the same way.) Some of the nightly builds of WebKit support it properly (so it'll come in Safari eventually), and it works perfectly in Camino, Opera, and Firefox.

So yeah, there's nothing we can do on the server side to make this work for you.

tooki

tooki, you do realize that feature has worked within Safari up until the vB 3.5.0 upgrade, correct?

turtle777 · Nov 11, 2005, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by rickey939

tooki, you do realize that feature has worked within Safari up until the vB 3.5.0 upgrade, correct?

Yeah, that's sort of weird.

Is it a "feature" of AJAX ?

-t

rickey939 · Nov 11, 2005, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Yeah, that's sort of weird.

Is it a "feature" of AJAX ?

-t

AJAX probably has mucked with it indeed, who knows.

Dark Helmet · Nov 11, 2005, 01:39 PM

So the Search seems to give me no results for things I know worked in the past.

tooki · Nov 11, 2005, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

tooki, you do realize that feature has worked within Safari up until the vB 3.5.0 upgrade, correct?

Actually, it didn't work with Safari until a very recent version, and I think it was a prerelease version.

tooki

rickey939 · Nov 11, 2005, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

Actually, it didn't work with Safari until a very recent version, and I think it was a prerelease version.

tooki

Huh? I've used this feature as far as back as 10.3.0 using that version of Safari, if not longer...what are you referring to exactly?

Maybe we are referring to two different things, but let be more clear by using pictures...

1.) Hit the "Insert Hyperlink" button when composing a message and this is the 1st box that should show up...insert text:

2.) This is the 2nd box that should show up...insert URL:

3.) Final product:

That was done using Safari from v10.3.0 on a forum running vB 2.3.5. Everything works fine.

Is this what you are talking about tooki?

SpaceMonkey · Nov 11, 2005, 04:03 PM

If I quit and relaunch Safari, the "new posts in this thread" indicator for threads that I've posted in always tells me there have been new posts since my last visit, even if there have not. I don't know if this is related to the upgrade or not, but I just noticed it recently.

subego · Nov 11, 2005, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Huh? I've used this feature as far as back as 10.3.0 using that version of Safari, if not longer

Yup.

I don't remember it ever not working that way, until the recent upgrade.

gorgonzola · Nov 11, 2005, 09:26 PM

The way the linking feature is implemented was changed in 3.5.0. It has nothing to do with AJAX in particular, but it's not going to give you an explicit prompt for the text anymore; you'll have to select it or type out the vB code manually. This apparently brings the feature's behavior in line with the other editor buttons.

An explanation:

1) [This is the way it has always been done with the WYSIWYG editor, and now works the same way for the "normal" editor.] Highlight the text you would like to make a link, click the insert link button, type/paste a URL, the text you highlighted will be made into the link.

2) [This is for the non-WYSIWYG editor only.] Click the insert link button, type/paste a URL, the word "TEXT" for the link will automatically be highlighted, so you can just start typing to overwrite it with the text you want.

In any case, it sounds like you'll just have to write out the vB code or use some Safari nightly.

rickey939 · Nov 11, 2005, 10:21 PM

Well, darn...that's disappointing. Thanks for the information though!

timmerk · Nov 14, 2005, 08:31 PM

Can't post a new thread in marketplace still. :-(

rickey939 · Nov 14, 2005, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by timmerk

Can't post a new thread in marketplace still. :-(

http://forums.macnn.com/forumdisplay...aysprune=&f=59

Obviously...good lord...

brapper · Nov 14, 2005, 09:29 PM

uh...clean up to aisle MARKETPLACE.

timmerk · Nov 14, 2005, 10:13 PM

hehe, sorry again guys - i feel guilty as hell!

wataru · Dec 7, 2005, 01:31 AM

I'm getting lots of timeouts tonight. Very annoying.

brapper · Dec 7, 2005, 02:17 AM

me too.
Can't edit dps.
Forums aren't updating for my new posts (ie. I'm not shown as the last to post in a thread when I in fact am..)

Rolling Bones · Dec 7, 2005, 03:39 AM

Stella!...Steelllllaa....Steeeeeeelllllaaaaaa!!!?? !!!