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I've just upgraded the forums to vBulletin 3.5.0. Some notable changes include the following:
Completely rewritten message editor with ability to instantly switch between standard and WYSIWYG modes
Thread title editing on forumdisplay via AJAX
Thread opening and closing on forumdisplay via AJAX
Super-Quick Reply on showthread via AJAX
Inline post edit on showthread via AJAX
Username suggestion for PM recipients and search by user via AJAX
...and so on. There are many dozens more changes, but I don't think I can link to them directly.
As usual, there's some goofiness after an upgrade. I'll be restoring the icons, but please post in this thread if you see something messed up. Also, let me know whether any of the new features are interesting or useful.
Thanks!
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Last edited by gorgonzola; Oct 28, 2005 at 12:50 AM.
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Cool; surprised to see another upgrade so soon
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Sorry, I should clarify something here. There are some pretty neat new AJAX-related features in vB 3.5, but they won't actually show up in the forums until we transition our old templates to use those features. Unfortunately, the new features seem to have required massive changes to the stock vB templates, so it'll require a little work before we can really see all the new toys in action.
As a teaser, here's a video with a demo: http://files.vbulletin.com/3.5/ajax.html
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Could we do a recount of posts?
I've had many, many posts not register to my post count because of DB errors while posting. And I know I'm not alone.
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I like chicken
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Meow Mix, Meow Mix
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Do you have postcount envy?
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Don't forget about QuickReply
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I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
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Originally Posted by OreoCookie
Don't forget about QuickReply
Amen.
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The upgrade to v3.5.0 didn't kill off of the Google ads...can the update be re-applied?
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Originally Posted by Lateralus
Could we do a recount of posts?
I've had many, many posts not register to my post count because of DB errors while posting. And I know I'm not alone.
I always knew I had really eleventy billions pc. The damn hamster stole them all
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Originally Posted by gorgonzola
I've just upgraded the forums to vBulletin 3.5.0.
No new DB error feature ?
I'm disappointed...
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Originally Posted by gorgonzola
Super-Quick Reply on showthread via AJAX
How does that work ?
Or is it one of the features that need rewriting of more code ?
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Originally Posted by turtle777
How does that work ?
Or is it one of the features that need rewriting of more code ?
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You just click somewhere (not sure where) and start typing without having to reload the entire page. We'll need to modify the templates to take advantage of this, which isn't a trivial task due to the number of customizations we've made.
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Originally Posted by Lateralus
Could we do a recount of posts?
I've had many, many posts not register to my post count because of DB errors while posting. And I know I'm not alone.
I ran a post recount, but it doesn't seem to have made much of a difference...
Right now, I'm still trying to figure out why I have ten stars. *scratches head*
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When using the link, the coding is coming up duplicated
[ URL="http://forums.macnn.com/member.php?userid=xxxx"]http://forums.macnn.com/member.php?userid=xxxx[/ URL]
Also, can we ban hamster the way that goat word is banned?
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Originally Posted by Randman
Also, can we ban hamster the way that goat word is banned?
What goat word ? And why ?
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AAArrrrrgggghhhhh. Hamsterbreak Error.
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I like the stars but it's shame they don't tie in with tooki's mushrooms.
And on a side note: Remember to fix all those buttons that come up when you do an advanced post. None of them work.
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i'm working on an updated theme that will incorporate all the spiffy 3.5 additions.
shouldn't take all that long.
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Will the hamster get a new wheel with stainless steel rims ?
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^^^ Yeah, Baby, I'm good ! WTF ?
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P.S. Nevermind. All DB Error DP were deleted.
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Originally Posted by Demonhood
i'm working on an updated theme that will incorporate all the spiffy 3.5 additions.
Would it not be a good idea to upgrade the server to at least a 486DX2 before all the spiffy add-ons make the whole thing unusable?
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Would it not be a good idea to upgrade the server to at least a 486DX2 before all the spiffy add-ons make the whole thing unusable?
How many wheels fit in a 486DX2 cage ?
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That would depend on how big the wheels are and how big the cage was.
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Another vote on the quick reply
Also weren't you going to be changing the look vBulletin? Any idea of when?
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Originally Posted by Maflynn
Any idea of when?
Sometime later this millenium...
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Hella-errors left and right, up and down.
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Originally Posted by rickey939
Hella-errors left and right, up and down.
uh ya, agreed.
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Originally Posted by rickey939
Hella-errors left and right, up and down.
Seconded.
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double stars for mods/admins fixed (changes propagating now).
updated 3.5 theme incorporating all the new features: 80% done.
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1 step forward....
....15 miles backwards.
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This has to be the first time I'm posting a reply in this thread without knowing whether it'll show up. 90+ per cent of the times I've tried to perform normal posting actions since the upgrade, either the address couldn't be resolved, or the quite valid threads are read as "invalid." Just viz my double no-content thread in the Mac OS forum. It did have content, just didn't show up. Can't reply to it, either, even though I should be able to.
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We're still missing "View First Unread Post".
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Every time I reply to a post, I get a page failed to load message, yet if I wait long enough, the reply seems to show up. There are many people inadvertently posting four, five, or six of the same message because of this.
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Every time I reply to a post, I get a page failed to load message, yet if I wait long enough, the reply seems to show up. There are many people inadvertently posting four, five, or six of the same message because of this.
Edit; this is the error message I just got on this post;
Safari can’t open the page “ http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php”. The error was: “lost network connection” (NSURLErrorDomain:-1005) Please choose Report Bug to Apple from the Safari menu, note the error number, and describe what you did before you saw this message.
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Why is there always money for war, but none for education?
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Every time I reply to a post, I get a page failed to load message, yet if I wait long enough, the reply seems to show up. There are many people inadvertently posting four, five, or six of the same message because of this.
Edit; this is the error message I just got on this post;
Safari can’t open the page “ http://forums.macnn.com/newreply.php”. The error was: “lost network connection” (NSURLErrorDomain:-1005) Please choose Report Bug to Apple from the Safari menu, note the error number, and describe what you did before you saw this message.
Edit: I got the same message again, so I opened the Feedback in a new tab to add this. When I refresh the page numerous times, my post still doesn't show up.
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Why is there always money for war, but none for education?
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Mmmm....AJAX.
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I have a question about the database problems for the mods:
Just out of curiosity, what is the problem exactly? Is it simply the servers being overwhelmed? If so, how much of a tax does the MTA used by the forum software to send out reply notifications add?
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3.5 seems to be eating replies to this thread in the iPod forum. It says (at the moment) that I made the last post, but it doesn't show up in the thread. On a presumably related note, it won't jump to the bottom of the thread when I click on my name.
Separate from this, I didn't see anyone mention that inserting a link no longer asks for the text you want to have displayed.
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no more posting new threads for me ... what a stinker
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Originally Posted by subego
Separate from this, I didn't see anyone mention that inserting a link no longer asks for the text you want to have displayed.
Just recognized that. A little flaw, but annoying nonetheless.
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still working on all the problems that this upgrade brought with it.
the server issues are a little harder to handle. i turned off a lot of the more server intensive services (related threads, for example), but that can only do so much. the machine this forum is on also houses a number of other popular domains. and it gets hammered something fierce quite often. it looks like the forums will be getting its own dedicated box in the very near future though. until then i'll just try to work on getting all these ajax features working for you crazies.
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Place an "X" to enable the following features:
[ X ] Quick Reply Box
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[ X ] Gerbil, not hamster.
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the quick reply box won't work until i enable all of the ajax features (as ajax has taken over responsibility for the quick reply). it's not as easy as flipping the switch, sorry. i'm about 90% done now. all these variables and templates are giving me a headache.
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Also, some of these bugs are probably related to these outdated themes as well (some of the theme upgrades are mandatory in order to ensure correct operation). Hopefully, once we finish updating everything, we'll be rid of a good number of the bugs. In particular, the "could not load this website" thing will go away.
As for questions about the servers ... the server running the PHP code is different from the server running the database. The web server (a quad Xeon 2.8 GHz with 4 GB RAM) is handling well and disabling stuff like email notifications would pointless, since the issue is with the database. The database server is not slow, but the forums generate very heavy load on the MySQL server itself, and much than any of the other sites using it. For this reason, the forums database is going to be put on a dedicated server soon and then MySQL will hopefully cope with the load better. (This is at least one of the main issues we've been dealing with.)
I haven't been the one handling the servers for well over a year now, so I don't know what the timeline on this is.
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Is it possible to downgrade. This suxxors so bad. What the frig is ajax? Is that a trojan?
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Originally Posted by Demonhood
the quick reply box won't work until i enable all of the ajax features (as ajax has taken over responsibility for the quick reply). it's not as easy as flipping the switch, sorry. i'm about 90% done now. all these variables and templates are giving me a headache.
Thank you for your assistance and hard work on this Demonhood.
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