Hey folks, I tried to add a post to the original thread (here) so that I didn't clutter up the forums, but vBulletin won't let me do that, so I have to start a new one.

The folks in the original thread say that they got Appleworks to "just work" on intel machines. But Appleworks just quits on launch for me.

I have an iMac G5 with Appleworks 6.2.9 on it, works fine (in Version, it says: "AppleWorks 6.2.9 for Mac OS X Copyright Apple Computer, Inc. 1991-2003"). When I transfer the Appleworks folder to my MacBook and launch Appleworks, it doesn't launch. The Appleworks icon stays in the dock for a few seconds, then disappears, and no Appleworks windows launch.

What's going on??


iMac G5
PowerPC
1.6 GHz
Mac OS X 10.5.8

MacBook
Core 2 Duo
2.1 GHz
Mac OS X 10.5.8


P.S. Only recently on campus did I discover that Appleworks worked on intel machines, because the copies of Appleworks on campus running on the glossy screen iMacs (running 10.5.x) launch Appleworks no problem.

I couldn't find any discussion of Appleworks "not working" on Intels anywhere on the internet.

[Hal Itosis]

Have you removed the aliases out of this folder yet?
~/Documents/AppleWorks User Data/Starting Points/Recent Items
[there's also a Cache folder in that Starting Points directory]

How about dumping the ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.appleworks.plist ?
[there are also more prefs and caches in the folder ~/Library/Preferences/AppleWorks]

[Chuckit]

Do any PowerPC-only apps work on your computer?

[cwkmacuser]

I wonder if I could run Virtual-PC on my MacBook.

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by cwkmacuser 

I wonder if I could run Virtual-PC on my MacBook.

That has nothing to do with the topic of this thread and a simple Google search would answer your question anyway. Let's stay on-topic.

[cwkmacuser]

Don't take this the wrong way, as I don't mean to insult you. I think that was on topic. Chuck asked about PowerPC apps working on an intel. I was simply saying I would be curious what the result is if I tried it. Guess I should have been more specific. Anyway, as I have nothing relevant to contribute here, I will move on to other threads!

[Art Vandelay]

Virtual PC has nothing to do with this topic. It doesn't even belong in this forum. No, you won't be able to run it on your MacBook.

[CharlesS]

Open the Console application, which is in your Utilities folder, then try to launch AppleWorks. See if anything shows up in the console when you do this, and post it if it does.

[Big Mac]

Try the troubleshooting step given in this Apple thread:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....999&tstart=345

If that doesn't work, I'm not sure what else could be wrong. People are still using AppleWorks on their Intel Macs.

Originally Posted by Big Mac 

Try the troubleshooting step given in this Apple thread:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....999&tstart=345

If that doesn't work, I'm not sure what else could be wrong. People are still using AppleWorks on their Intel Macs.

Same as:

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis 

Have you removed the aliases out of this folder yet?
~/Documents/AppleWorks User Data/Starting Points/Recent Items
[there's also a Cache folder in that Starting Points directory]

How about dumping the ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.appleworks.plist ?
[there are also more prefs and caches in the folder ~/Library/Preferences/AppleWorks]

Those files and folders do not yet exist on my MacBook.

All I did was transfer the Appleworks folder from my iMac G5 Applications folder over to the MacBook, so those files never existed on my MacBook

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Do any PowerPC-only apps work on your computer?

Yes. Randiction is a program that I created in Java that works fine.
Also, Firefox works fine, and so does flvThing, KeyNote, WeatherDock, etc.

Originally Posted by CharlesS 

Open the Console application, which is in your Utilities folder, then try to launch AppleWorks. See if anything shows up in the console when you do this, and post it if it does.

Prior to launching my Appleworks, I cleared the Console window. After trying to launch Appleworks, it quit on me again. The following appeared in Console shortly afterwards:


5/1/09 8:48:57 AM com.apple.launchd[69] ([0x0-0x10010].com.apple.appleworks[109]) Exited with exit code: 215
5/1/09 8:50:16 AM [0x0-0x13013].com.apple.appleworks[118] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Support/LaunchCFMApp[118] Launch failed with error code -2857 (cfragCFragRsrcErr) for application /Applications/Appleworks/AppleWorks 6.app/Contents/MacOS/AppleWorks 6
5/1/09 8:50:16 AM com.apple.launchd[69] ([0x0-0x13013].com.apple.appleworks[118]) Exited with exit code: 215
5/1/09 8:50:16 AM com.apple.launchd[69] ([0x0-0x13013].com.apple.appleworks[118]) Exited with exit code: 215

^^^^ What does this mean?

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by Andrej 

Yes. Randiction is a program that I created in Java that works fine.
Also, Firefox works fine, and so does flvThing, KeyNote, WeatherDock, etc.

Everything you listed is Universal.

Really? But they're build on a PowerPC. It's the non-Universal apps that shouldn't run on Intel.

Alright, so what are some examples of PowerPC apps to try out on an Intel machine?

[Big Mac]

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to previous replies. You should be able to force some universal apps to run in Rosetta.

[Art Vandelay]

Yeah, just pick one of your Universal apps, do a Get Info on it and set it to run in Rosetta. If it doesn't work, then Rosetta is borked. If it does work, try copying your AppleWorks again from the original Mac.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by Andrej 

Really? But they're build on a PowerPC. It's the non-Universal apps that shouldn't run on Intel.

Alright, so what are some examples of PowerPC apps to try out on an Intel machine?

Where they're built has nothing to do with it. It's how they're built that makes a difference. Non-Universal apps will run on Intel unless there's something wrong with Rosetta or it's a very specific app that is incompatible with Rosetta.

[msuper69]

Originally Posted by Andrej

All I did was transfer the Appleworks folder from my iMac G5 Applications folder over to the MacBook, so those files never existed on my MacBook
...

5/1/09 8:48:57 AM com.apple.launchd[69] ([0x0-0x10010].com.apple.appleworks[109]) Exited with exit code: 215
5/1/09 8:50:16 AM [0x0-0x13013].com.apple.appleworks[118] /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Support/LaunchCFMApp[118] Launch failed with error code -2857 (cfragCFragRsrcErr) for application /Applications/Appleworks/AppleWorks 6.app/Contents/MacOS/AppleWorks 6
5/1/09 8:50:16 AM com.apple.launchd[69] ([0x0-0x13013].com.apple.appleworks[118]) Exited with exit code: 215
5/1/09 8:50:16 AM com.apple.launchd[69] ([0x0-0x13013].com.apple.appleworks[118]) Exited with exit code: 215

^^^^ What does this mean?

Just copying the Appleworks folder from one Mac to another is probably causing some support files to be missed. Try using the Migration Assistant (as MA will know about what to transfer) or installing Appleworks from the original media.

[Big Mac]

Nah, you can definitely just copy AppleWorks over using the Finder.

[Art Vandelay]

And it doesn't have dual-forked files either. I verified that on a test machine by transferring it on a FAT flash drive.

[amazing]

Appleworks runs just fine on my MBP.

Just out of curiosity, log in as another user and see if Appleworks runs at that point.

Most likely, all you have to do is an archive and install, and it'll run OK.

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay 

Yeah, just pick one of your Universal apps, do a Get Info on it and set it to run in Rosetta. If it doesn't work, then Rosetta is borked. If it does work, try copying your AppleWorks again from the original Mac.

When set to open in Rosetta, other applications launch fine.

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay 

If it does work, try copying your AppleWorks again from the original Mac.

Solution: I tried copying the Appleworks folder from my iMac G5 to my Macbook a second time (i.e. I repeated the old procedure identically, step by step, transferring via my flash drive), and this time, Appleworks launched fine. I've gone as far as restarting my MacBook, and it launched fine.

My flash drive is a Memorex 2GB, model circa 2006. This is the same flash drive/technique that I used the first time, and yet from the first time I did this, Appleworks did not launch. Why was this the case?

[Oisín]

The only logical answer I can think of is that at least one of your machines is female.

Yeah well neither of them has a fitting condom, so I guess that makes them lesbians.

Final question: Will Appleworks run on Snow 10.6? Because I still like Appleworks (except for the deadly "Save" bug in 6.2.x) and want to keep using it for like 10 years, or at least until NeoOffice becomes just as fast.

[Chuckit]

It's not possible to answer definitively about Snow Leopard since it isn't finished yet, but nothing that's been announced or leaked about it would stop Appleworks from working.

[Ray@SAT]

Hi, I'm wondering if AppleWorks DOES work on Snow Leopard, since I'll be upgrading my MB Pro soon. Didn't find Appleworks in Apples "Incompatible application list" for 10.6.
AppleWorks works fine on Tiger for me. Even though I hardly use it anymore. It's just to go over some random files once in a while. Just want to know what to expect.
Let me know, please. Thanks,
Ray

[Douglashh]

My understanding from reading the AppleWorks forum on the Apple website is that AppleWorks does indeed work with SL. Pages will also open AppleWorks word processing files which is what I used when I converted over from AW to Pages. Make sure your AW is the latest version, 6.2.9 I believe.

Also, AppleWorks is no longer supported by Apple.

[Spheric Harlot]

It does work, but I've found that it occasionally has weird bugs - like messing up page margins, so that the document simply won't print, and then refusing to display the dialog options in the appropriate window.

IIRC, I fixed that ('twas on a client's machine) by deleting the AppleWorks preference file(s), so these things can be worked around.

However, it's becoming clear that AppleWorks is no longer a reliable option, and if at all possible, you really, really need to wean yourself off it before it stops working entirely in a few years.

[Ray@SAT]

Just to know AW will open in SL sounds ok, while I switch to other apps.
I tried opening a document using Pages. It's readable but messy, since the document mixes text, images and spreadsheets, which BTW, was great in AppleWorks.
Ray