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Mar 14, 2007, 03:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by rdas7 View Post
Check out this guy Feisar over at: mobile.feisar.com/plugins.html

He's got iSync plugins for all the Sony Ericssons for only a couple bucks. He's also got addressbook plugins and stuff like that. It's all transparent (driver based), not separate apps, etc. so you can basically enable the missing functions. Highly recommended!
Feisar has put out some new phone sync plugins, but unfortunately the M600 and the P990, plus some Nokia phones, use UIQ3 which is a fundamental rewrite as far as syncing is concerned. It is hoped (from reading Feisar's and other's comments) that Leopard will have an iSync update that deals with this.

So unfortunately, it's not bizarre at all...

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Mar 14, 2007, 03:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by CatOne View Post
That would be a worthless exercise. The 10.5 code base has been forked from the 10.4 code base since 10.4 shipped -- so about 2 years ago. The 10.4 builds are about fixing issues with 10.4 as is -- there very little in common with the two of them now.

The 10.5 build will ship when it's feature complete, and when enough of the "critical" bugs are fixed. Oh, and maybe when Apple feels it makes marketing sense as well.

But don't think that the logical progression HAS to be 10.4.8, 10.4.9, 10.5.0. There is really no reason technically there couldn't be a 10.4.10, should there need to be bugs fixed.

Also, I believe 10.3.9 shipped AFTER 10.4 was announced or released last time.
I was just wondering.... no reason to get mad
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Mar 14, 2007, 05:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by richardwigley View Post
Im glad they fixed the eject button problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whats this talk about new themes?? (i cant install yet due to a internet problem)
I think somebody may have seen the "new theme" post for the MacNN forums, since it's stuck to the top of the post listings.

10.4.9 here, no issues with my C2D MacBook, although I can't tell if things are snappier with the update. I'm keeping fingers crossed that it (and the recent Airport update) have fixed my kernel panic problems when waking up to a WAP2 wireless network
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 05:48 PM
 
Working fine on Mac mini 1.66GHz core duo here. And the one bug I check out every single update seems to have been fixed! I can no longer force a dashboard error with the shuffle button on the iTunes widget ... only 2 years later !
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 06:50 PM
 
Ok, well the reinstall worked at least, I'm back to 10.4.8 with all my files and apps and such in place, right where I left them before the hang. Bit of a waste of a day, but at least I didn't lose all those little things that never get backed up. Note to self, make disk images often.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 07:10 PM
 
well i'm at the grey screen with the apple logo and the spinner...

same problem that Kanx described...about to call my local apple store to force them to fix this problem...
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 08:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by Black_Rain View Post
well i'm at the grey screen with the apple logo and the spinner...

same problem that Kanx described...about to call my local apple store to force them to fix this problem...
Yea, I found an osX install cd and booted from the cd, had to switch the options around a bit when I started the install but now I'm up and running on 10.4.8. All of my files are here, and the majority of my settings are the same. And I'm currently running through all of the updates again, hopefully this doesn't happen again.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 08:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by kanx06 View Post
I have no idea. I started the download, went to study, came back and there was a message telling me an error occurred during the download process, the downloaded files were sent to the trash and I was asked to restart my computer. I hit restart, all my apps and windows closed and finder quit, all that was left on was my desktop background and my cursor. Couldn't force quit and restart the finder or anything. So I let it sit for about 5 or 6 minutes then still nothing happened. Held down the start button to force shut down the computer. So it was shut down, I let it cool off for about 5 minutes then I started it up again. Then all that happened was it went to the gray screen with the apple logo and the circle spun and spun. It won't even let me safe boot it or anything, and I'm stuck here at college and no way to a mac store or anything, with my install disks at home I don't know what all I can do. It will let me run Windows through Boot Camp nonetheless, so I guess I didn't get screwed THAT bad. Even though I will be majorly pissed at Apple if my files cannot be recovered. I didn't spend all that time writing those papers for nothing. Anyone have any tips?
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Mar 14, 2007, 08:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by indigoimac View Post
If you can still get into Windows download MacDrive that way you can backup ur files on the OSX partition from Windows so you can do a worry free clean install.
Or... you could just boot from the OS X install disc and choose "Archive and Install". You'll get a clean install of your OS whilst leaving all of your files intact.

I do not understand why some people seem to think that "Erase and Install" is the only way to clean reinstall the OS.

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Mar 14, 2007, 08:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by CharlesS View Post
Or... you could just boot from the OS X install disc and choose "Archive and Install". You'll get a clean install of your OS whilst leaving all of your files intact.

I do not understand why some people seem to think that "Erase and Install" is the only way to clean reinstall the OS.
That's because Archive and Install hasn't always been perfect and it's hardly recommended for a major update, i.e Panter to Tiger or Tiger to Leopard. At this point you should only reformat and install.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 08:43 PM
 
My install failed and then everything froze and I had to restart but then hung on startup. My iMac was dead in the water until I found this solution, which basically entails downloading the Combo update to an external drive, starting up the afflicted machine from the boot CD, transferring the update over, then running it.

Worked for me.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 09:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by hldan View Post
That's because Archive and Install hasn't always been perfect and it's hardly recommended for a major update, i.e Panter to Tiger or Tiger to Leopard. At this point you should only reformat and install.
That's ridiculous. I've been doing all my major updates a regular updates, ie. not even Archive & Install. Erasing and installing for every major system update is a complete waste of time.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 09:11 PM
 
just another update for me...

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Mar 14, 2007, 09:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by DigitalEl View Post
I don't know if this is related, but after installing 10.4.9 on my PowerBook, if I hit Command-Spacebar or clicked on the Spotlight icon, the inon would highlight but no search menuling would pop up. I resized my display from 1440x900 to 1152x720 and Spotlight worked fine. I resized back to 1440x900 and everything seems quite happy again.

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Mar 14, 2007, 09:19 PM
 
had a freeze up last night and had to do some repairs to the directory because my pb wouldn't start up, or at least my tech friend had to, but now all is good.

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Mar 14, 2007, 09:33 PM
 
Works fine on my iBook G4. Long boot at first. But all seems fine now.
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Mar 14, 2007, 09:58 PM
 
I downloaded the new 10.4.9 update, restarted, and now the screen just displays the wallpaper and mouse, but does not load the desktop. I have turned it off and on and it still stays like that. I can move the mouse but that's it. Please help! Also, do other have that problem too?
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 10:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by gjimeno View Post
I downloaded the new 10.4.9 update, restarted, and now the screen just displays the wallpaper and mouse, but does not load the desktop. I have turned it off and on and it still stays like that. I can move the mouse but that's it. Please help! Also, do other have that problem too?
Try pressing and holding down these keyes all at once immediately after the chime plays from a restart. Command/Option/ P+R. It resets the PRAM. I always do this upon restart from a system update.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 10:32 PM
 
I cant put my MBP to sleep via Option+Apple Key+Eject key anymore after the update, any tips?
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 10:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by hldan View Post
That's because Archive and Install hasn't always been perfect and it's hardly recommended for a major update, i.e Panter to Tiger or Tiger to Leopard. At this point you should only reformat and install.
What are you talking about? Archive and Install works just fine. You can see the results for yourself - /System, /Library, all the original applications, /usr, /private, /bin, /sbin, the mach kernel, etc. are all in the Previous Systems folder after an A&I. I'm not sure what more you could ask for in terms of getting the original system files out of the way.

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Mar 14, 2007, 10:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by highstakes View Post
I cant put my MBP to sleep via Option+Apple Key+Eject key anymore after the update, any tips?
Hold down the Eject button for about a half-second.

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Mar 14, 2007, 10:43 PM
 
10.4.9 update hung on iBook G3, then would not boot past the grey screen, apple logo never appears.

Eventually booted into safe mode, (hold shift at chime) Repaired Permissions in Disk Utility and ran Automation in Onyx, and rebooted. all good now (after about 3hrs of mild concern).

Also 10.4.9 added iSync support for the SE K610i phone - woo hoo.
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Originally Posted by voth View Post
Just installed 10.4.9, rebooted. Tried to eject my DVD/CD drive prior to this installation I could just tap the eject button, now I am force to hold it down. Loading does seem a little slower too.

FYI: System is a G5 2.0 (Dual) w/ 6GB ram.
Same eject issue on my Macbook.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 11:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by arng1 View Post
Same eject issue on my Macbook.
It's not a bug, it's a feature (really!).

It's intended to cut down on accidental disk ejections due to hitting the Eject key when you were aiming for something else, which is particularly easy to do on the laptops where the Eject key isn't too far from the Delete key.

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Originally Posted by CharlesS View Post
Hold down the Eject button for about a half-second.
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Mar 15, 2007, 12:38 AM
 
The question is WHY DID THEY DO THIS FOR NORMAL KEYBOARDS???

I love the eject-delay on laptops, hate it on desktops.

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No problems so far on a G5 and a G3.
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I now have weird boxes around my back icon, and where I type username password into a webpage etc...no clue where they came from...
     
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Go to the Universal Access System Preferences and turn off VoiceOver.

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Mar 15, 2007, 02:49 AM
 
Sure he's not talking about Full Keyboard Access?

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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
The question is WHY DID THEY DO THIS FOR NORMAL KEYBOARDS???
Presumably for the same reason. Because people trying to hit /, *, or mute hit the eject button accidentally.
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Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Presumably for the same reason. Because people trying to hit /, *, or mute hit the eject button accidentally.
Oh come on. I've never hit that button accidentally on a normal keyboard - ever!

And even if I did I'd much rather have instant response. Yes I do use a LOT of optical disks everyday, and this is in fact slowing me down.

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10.4.9 Poppycock.

- No, not the update. this:

Apple patches Mac every which way - 14/Mar/2007 - ComputerWeekly.com

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Mar 15, 2007, 05:30 AM
 
Installed on a macbook pro and imac c2d, both went fine. I shut down all applications before doing it though.
     
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Oh come on. I've never hit that button accidentally on a normal keyboard - ever!
Me neither. But I guess that was their reasoning.
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Hmmm. I seem to recall the delay previously only applied to laptops. If they could distinguish before, why not now?

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Originally Posted by GatorsFan View Post
I installed 10.4.9, rebooted, and then my phone rang. It was Nicole Kidman calling me from Oz. Said that Kenny was on-tour and that she was soaking in a bubble bath and wanted to hear the sound of my voice. The noise of a champagne bottle clinking against the rim of her crystal stemware was audible in the background. Suddenly, my screen was filled with the sight of fireworks bursting over the skyline of Sydney. My breath came in short gasps. There was the rushing sound of far-off thunder. I could hear the water sloshing in her deep Roman tub. . .

All I can say is "Thank you, Steve Jobs, thank you very much."
Same exact thing here on my first reboot. But, interesting difference here - fireworks were over Paris not Sydney......
     
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No problems on any of my Macs:

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I did a whole school (well, almost all of it) with Intel iMacs, and eMacs so far and have had no problems!

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Some people mentioned at the start of the thread A NEW THEME with this update. What new theme?
     
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Originally Posted by hldan View Post
That's because Archive and Install hasn't always been perfect and it's hardly recommended for a major update, i.e Panter to Tiger or Tiger to Leopard. At this point you should only reformat and install.
That's just plain nuts. My DA Desktop went from 10.1 to 10.2 to 10.3 to 10.4 ALL with archive and install. I've not had any issues whatsoever doing things this way. My PowerBook went from Panther to Tiger with an archive and install as well. I am sure there is crap in my user folders I no longer use but it's not hurting anything.
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Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
Some people mentioned at the start of the thread A NEW THEME with this update. What new theme?
The Emperor's new Theme

I updated without any problems. I used the combo installer just because. This was on an intel iMac.

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Nothing on MacBook was messed up, and my icons are all the same.

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Originally Posted by highstakes View Post
I cant put my MBP to sleep via Option+Apple Key+Eject key anymore after the update, any tips?
ya man the new delay and having to hold down onto the required key combos is not as nice and takes some getting used to...

Now you also have to 'press and hold' option+eject to bring up the shutdown/sleep/restart window

sux... instant was better
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Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
Some people mentioned at the start of the thread A NEW THEME with this update. What new theme?
you would see that that was a joke if you read the thread.
     
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Originally Posted by highstakes View Post
I cant put my MBP to sleep via Option+Apple Key+Eject key anymore after the update, any tips?
Why not just close your laptop and it will go to sleep?
     
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Originally Posted by shabbasuraj View Post
Now you also have to 'press and hold' option+eject to bring up the shutdown/sleep/restart window
Why not just press the power button and it will show that dialog instantly?
     
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Mar 15, 2007, 01:02 PM
 
I've always had a delay on my Powerbook G4 when ejecting a CD/DVD.

The fact is, it is a great feature because it does eliminate the accidental 'oops i hit the eject key' even though it may be once or twice a month that it happens. (and for me it happens here and there on my B&W G3 keyboard that I'm using running OS X Server)

And honestly, how much time are you actually losing by having to hold it for an extra half second? even if you use 100 CDs/DVDs a day, you lose 50-55 seconds of your time.
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Originally Posted by TETENAL View Post
Why not just press the power button and it will show that dialog instantly?
I use my notebook in clamshell mode when at home and the powerbutton cannot be reached when the lid is closed.

Desktop users also use this method as the power button can be quite incovenient to get to. e.g., if the machine is hiding under a desk.
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