[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

When I say "never much liked" I mean as in one you've talked to your neighbors about. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I got the impression from you that if you saw your neighbors dog in your yard, you wouldn't be waiting for it to make an aggressive move before taking action.

No, this is what I said:

Our neighbor's (across the street) dog always rushes me and barks at me whenever I go near our road. Every time I get the mail or take out the trash I have this 30-40 lbs. dog looking like it is going to attack me. I wish it would attack me so I could solve the problem once and for all. How do you think I feel about letting my 2 year old or four year old playing in our front yard? Think I should go let my four year old go get the mail for her own house on her own property?

I can't be in my yard playing with my kids and go answer the phone in the house without worrying about that dog attacking my kids.

[mduell]

Regarding the title... (violent dog) lover OR violent (dog lover)?

edit: Reading the last few posts I see it's the former.

[design219]

Originally Posted by Railroader 

I can't be in my yard playing with my kids and go answer the phone in the house without worrying about that dog attacking my kids.

Have you thought about getting some bigger kids?

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

I can't say that I agree with the guy shooting the dogs himself, but my parents have had incredible difficulty getting the police to do anything about their neighbors' two dogs that nearly burst through a fence several times trying to get to my 4-year-old nephew. The dogs have barked well past midnight, knocked down portions of the fence, and have gotten out a time or two and tried to attack my dad. The dogs' behavior has shown they're dangerous to others, but my parents neighbors refuse to do anything; the police have been no different.

People shouldn't have to be made to live like this. At a different house I used to live in,I had to go to a city council meeting and make a public complaint about the chief of police and his inaction about a neighbors dog. He was publicly scolded my city council members and the next day tickets were issued to my neighbors for allowing their dogs to wander and bark all night.

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

I do wish the guy hadn't shot the dogs, since any action taken with a gun that even seems slightly irresponsible is going to reflect poorly on all gun-owners. However, if people are unwilling or unable to control their aggressive pets (especially pitbulls), I don't blame anyone for taking proactive measures to protect their families.

Well said.

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by Railroader 

No, this is what I said:
I can't be in my yard playing with my kids and go answer the phone in the house without worrying about that dog attacking my kids.

Actually, I was referring to this:

If I ever see that dog in my backyard I will probably grab a shovel (no gun on property) and bury the thing.

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by design219 

Have you thought about getting some bigger kids?

We're working on it. Hopefully in a few years we'll have a 5 year old and 7 year old that know how to use shovels.

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

Actually, I was referring to this:

By "that dog", I mean the one that terrorizes me in my front yard, and by "back yard", I mean an area that no one can see me do the deed and bury the evidence.

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by Railroader 

By "that dog", I mean the one that terrorizes me in my front yard, and by "back yard", I mean an area that no one can see me do the deed and bury the evidence.

That doesn't change my impression:

I got the impression from you that if you saw your neighbors dog in your yard, you wouldn't be waiting for it to make an aggressive move before taking action.

I certainly don't get the impression it'd be friendly, but it sounds like you'd take care of the deed even if he was sitting around panting happily (in your back yard).

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

That doesn't change my impression:

I certainly don't get the impression it'd be friendly, but it sounds like you'd take care of the deed even if he was sitting around panting happily (in your back yard).

I don't see that happening. But you are right, i couldn't "shovel" a friendly dog.

In my defense, I did post this:

I wish it would attack me so I could solve the problem once and for all.

Alas, I could not eliminate a friendly dog.

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by Railroader 

I don't see that happening. But you are right, i couldn't "shovel" a friendly dog.

In my defense, I did post this:

Alas, I could not eliminate a friendly dog.

Ok, ok, sorry for the drawn out posts. And yeah, I can definitely see wishing it'd attack. End the suspense once and for all.
(Or conversely, that ****er would move away)

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

Ok, ok, sorry for the drawn out posts. And yeah, I can definitely see wishing it'd attack. End the suspense once and for all.
(Or conversely, that ****er would move away)

Perhaps I should "Lone Star"-it and not try to be succinct in my posting.

Nah... that would require too much spell check and post-editing.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

Yeah and in that situation I can't blame anyone for taking matter into their own hands.

Hell, I'd love it if they showed the neighbor the firearm they were keeping on them just in case every time they were supervising the nephew playing outside.

My dad has confessed to being tempted to "do a little nose damage with the weedeater" one day when one of the dogs slammed through the hole in the fence he had created, scaring ol' Pops to death. My dad is such a well-meaning, laid-back guy though; the only reason he would ever go nuts on the dogs is if they came anywhere near his grandkids.

Does the fact that their neighbor is a lawyer (not the "good" kind) change anything?

Originally Posted by Railroader 

People shouldn't have to be made to live like this. At a different house I used to live in,I had to go to a city council meeting and make a public complaint about the chief of police and his inaction about a neighbors dog. He was publicly scolded my city council members and the next day tickets were issued to my neighbors for allowing their dogs to wander and bark all night.

It's a shame that it would have to come to that, isn't it? I think the problem is widespread enough that people don't feel like responding. If we had much heavier fines for this sort of thing (it's only $100 in my neighborhood), it might change things a bit.

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

It's a shame that it would have to come to that, isn't it? I think the problem is widespread enough that people don't feel like responding. If we had much heavier fines for this sort of thing (it's only $100 in my neighborhood), it might change things a bit.

It was a $500 fine w/ 90 days in jail where we lived. I don't know what it is where we live now. The violation was called "Dog loose, owner not in control". It was a misdemeanor I think.

[OwlBoy]

Wait a second I just realized what this thread is. It is a thread asking for someone in Texas to violently attack/harass another person in some way.

Thats not cool.

-Owl

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by OwlBoy 

Wait a second I just realized what this thread is. It is a thread asking for someone in Texas to violently attack/harass another person in some way.

Thats not cool.

-Owl

You could also interpret the thread title as asking if there are any people who are into bestiality with violent canines that reside in Dallas.

[Dakar V]

Speaking of Lone Star, where is he? Two internships i really cramping his MacNN style.

[Railroader]

Is it time to file the paperwork Dakar? You are posting after work hours.

[Dakar V]

No, it's called overtime.

[Railroader]

Not dropping a deuce?

[design219]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

No, it's called overtime.

You get time and a half for wasting time here on overtime?

[finboy]

Originally Posted by FireWire 

I don't beleive his story a bit.. Come on, he was afraid for his daughter... at 4 am?? Where was she sleeping, on the porch? Just lock the door and call the owner the next morning, sick bastard! This was pure retaliation, and I hope someone will retaliate against him... I wish he has a nice car and nice big bay windows

I feel for the poor dogs, as it obviously is a problem with their owners. I mean, what idiot lets their dogs run around at night? Those folks should be banned from owning dogs in the future, and should get their very own social worker for their troubles.

Welcome to Texas! Here we shoot trespassers. Pit Bull trespassers too. The guy warned the neighbors and did what he HAD TO DO to protect his property and child. If it were me, I'd do the same (after calling Animal Control perhaps once). Pit Bulls carry deadly force with them wherever they go (at least DF against kids) -- he responded appropriately.

Too bad for the doggies. Seriously. It's not THEIR FAULT their owners are *********s.

[finboy]

Originally Posted by FireWire 

If he suspected he would need to use it, he should've stayed inside... Or ran inside once he perceived the threat.. I agree it's ok to use lethal force as a last resort, but I highly doubt that was the case here..

Should've stayed inside? It's his fricking house.

[Cold Warrior]

Those dogs are walking, snarling weapons. Any human should feel justified in terminating the dog in order to protect himself, family, or welfare. Dangerous dogs simply can't roam neighborhoods like feral animals, and we shouldn't have to live in fear of them coming into our yard and attacking us. That's not a shabby American, that's the quintessential one.

[BreadRecipe]

I love how pit bulls are "a dangerous breed" now. I have a purebred pit bull, who is the nicest dog you'd ever meet. More self-control than any other dog I've ever had and has never even growled at a human in her entire life. I also have a purebred boxer. You know, the breed that's great with kids, easily trained, and super nice? She hates humans. Strangers actually. Once she knows someone she's fine. I've had both of these dogs since birth. Literally. I know that owners of the parents and have been around them since birth and took them when they were old enough to be away from their mother. I really fear that if someone were to enter the house when I'm not home, the boxer would attack them. I, nor anyone else, has ever struck either dog, and both have been treated equally with love and affection. I feel that pit bulls have gotten this bad wrap because they're actually some of the smartest dogs around. It's just that when a moron owns one and teaches it it's OK to attack or growl at people, the dog will learn very fast that everyone but the owner is the enemy. As a discalimer, I agree that a person has every right t defend themselves, their family, and their property with lethal force as a LAST RESORT. That's why in Massachusetts, where I'm originally from, I have my card and a .22 Ruger. However, shooting the neighbors dogs at 4am in two different locations is quite obviously retaliation and not defense. Although, I understand the fact that the dogs should have absolutely been inside at that time and could have been alarming the neighbor by rampaging around the property. As an analogy though, it's statistically true that African-Americans commit 5-7 times more violent crimes compared to caucasians according to the DOD... http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm ...so by the logical continuation what does that say about most of the previous posts? And I don't feel any argument against higher level thinking and learning should come into play, because a dog is just as capable of learning wrong and right

[Railroader]

Again, the comparisons between people and dogs. I just don't get it.

Dogs ≠ people!!!

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Railroader 

You could also interpret the thread title as asking if there are any people who are into bestiality with violent canines that reside in Dallas.

Actually, I thought it was about people from Dallas who are into violent bestilality with canines.

[Railroader]

I am a novice among the master.

[RAILhead]

≠

Cool, I just learned to type that.

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by BreadRecipe 

stuff without paragraph breaks

What?

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by RAILhead 

≠

Cool, I just learned to type that.

I do it with [copy] [paste].

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by Mastrap 

What?

I see that you also cannot bring yourself to read large, unbroken blobs of text. Let's shoot 'im (I live 30 miles from the Texas border......close enough).

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by design219 

You get time and a half for wasting time here on overtime?

No, never.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by RAILhead 

≠

Cool, I just learned to type that.

On the Mac? Easy.
If you typed that on Windows then I'll be impressed.

[Mithras]

As I recall Sawyer took down a polar bear with a few shots from a handgun, so that's good enough for me.

[TheWOAT]

Very entertaining thread.

And if a dog attacked me, I would try to reason with it, even negotiate if I have to.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by TheWOAT 

Very entertaining thread.

And if a dog attacked me, I would try to reason with it, even negotiate if I have to.

The implication is not that the dogs would invade Poland, but...ya know...

[Mithras]

It was 1939 on that lawn, and Kristopher Harrison had the choice between gunfire and dishonor.

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by FireWire 

I swear I heard dubbya speak in this thread.. Freedom? Live in fear? We're talking about an isolated incident here! And the "violent" in the thread title was a reference to my wish that someone does something against him, as in "is there any violent activist living in Dallas who would be willing to seek revenge?". I wasn't taking about the dog. Sorry if it wasn't clear. Anyway, I'm out for the evening!

I'm not sure what you didn't get when a mod chided you for advocating violence, but I'll say it again: that doesn't fly here. I had hoped you'd stay away from that and the thread could be a good discussion about the larger issues of animal control, violent breeds, etc. Obviously I was as wrong as a gentle bulldog is normal.