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david_copperfield · Sep 5, 2005, 10:41 AM

it runs at the speed of 686 machine. so slow....

how can i speed it up?

Barry · Sep 5, 2005, 11:06 AM

How much RAM do you have in your Mac?? How much is alloted your Virtul PC??? The more RAM the more tollerable VPC becomes...

david_copperfield · Sep 5, 2005, 11:30 AM

the RAM in my mac is 1.25G, while 256M is allocated to VPC. i think it is enough to handle normal applications.

does it have anything to do with RAM? even when i just click on a folder, it takes ages to open it.

Randman · Sep 5, 2005, 11:36 AM

256 isn't much. Give it as much as you can. Turn off all eye candy in XP, turn off sounds, etc. Basically squeeze every bit you can for performance, which will still be slower than a pc but workable for many basic apps.

ghporter · Sep 5, 2005, 01:05 PM

256MB is just enough to be agonizing, even in a PC. Go for at least 512.

msuper69 · Sep 5, 2005, 01:33 PM

W2K is much faster than XP.

No matter what you do, VPC is always going to be slow.

The situation should reverse itself when the Mactels get here. MicroSoft has an Intel version of VPC already. If they would recode it to run on OS X, Windows will run very quickly as it no longer is an emulator but an OS selector.

mpancha · Sep 5, 2005, 02:41 PM

yea, what everyone said about RAM. You need to give VPC as much RAM as possible. Windows (running on VPC) is just like OSX, it needs RAM to be bearable.

mania · Sep 5, 2005, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by msuper69

The situation should reverse itself when the Mactels get here. MicroSoft has an Intel version of VPC already. If they would recode it to run on OS X, Windows will run very quickly as it no longer is an emulator but an OS selector.

well, at that point you could just boot into windows without vpc.

gradient · Sep 5, 2005, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by mania

well, at that point you could just boot into windows without vpc.

True, but then you wouldn't be able to cycle from windows to OSX like you can with VPC - I use VPC in that way all the time at work because I have those couple of PC apps I need for the job but everything else gets done is OSX.

That said, I have 1.5 gigs of ram on my G5 tower with 512 megs allocated to VPC and it still runs at the speed of my old Pentium 3 500 mhz piece-o-s**t (using Windoze 2k).

Person Man · Sep 5, 2005, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by mania

well, at that point you could just boot into windows without vpc.

Not unless Microsoft includes drivers for the Mac motherboards in Windows... which they may or may not do.

If Microsoft doesn't do it, then the hackers out there will, but that will preclude Grandma from running Windows on her Intel Macintosh.

Just because Apple says they aren't going to do anything to keep people from running Windows directly on their machines does NOT mean that it will be easy to do so.

Macpilot · Sep 5, 2005, 11:23 PM

You can assign up to 512mb of RAM to VPC. Do that. Then, in Windows, go to the Control Panels and turn off all the eye candy stuff and special effects. I forgot the actual Control Panel you go to for these adjustments. If you are using XP, select the older style look of Win2000 as this will help out too.

VPC is designed to run average applications, not high end stuff or games. Keep that in mind. It is never going to be as responsive as running Mac applications on a Mac.

Hopefully these tricks help you out.

david_copperfield · Sep 6, 2005, 07:59 AM

Thanks for all suggestion.

I have another question. VPC is just an application. So, not like using a real PC, I can turn my Windows on and off frequesntly. This won't do any harm to my Mac. Am I right?

PurpleGiant · Sep 6, 2005, 09:19 AM

Right. Just another app.

ghporter · Sep 6, 2005, 10:12 AM

The "virtual" in Virtual PC means that the application pretends to be a real computer. The beauty of it is that you can really hose things up and still not hurt anything. At worst, you may have to reinstall the Windows OS you're playing with, and while that's a rather boring process, you still haven't hurt anything.

budster101 · Sep 6, 2005, 10:16 AM

VPC is a virus. Can't stand that app. There are other ways to do what you need to do. Why do you think you need VPC? Check your ports...

Allocate 768mb ram to it.

Macpilot · Sep 6, 2005, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

VPC is a virus. Can't stand that app. There are other ways to do what you need to do. Why do you think you need VPC? Check your ports...

Allocate 768mb ram to it.

I don't believe you can allocate more than 512mb to VPC. At least in Panther with VPC 7 you couldn't.

Chuckit · Sep 6, 2005, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

VPC is a virus.

You're talking to somebody who didn't even realize VPC was slow as hell. Don't go lying to him now. I may realize it isn't really a virus, but again, clearly a VPC virgin here.

budster101 · Sep 6, 2005, 12:20 PM

Windows is a virus.

Anyway, I only have 1 gig of ram so I could only allocate 512mb of ram when I used it once. I thought you could cut your Ram in half, but I guess I was wrong there.

512mb of Ram is inadequate to do anything in VPC if you do anything more than log into a VPN with Explorer. It's crap.

david_copperfield · Sep 6, 2005, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

VPC is a virus. Can't stand that app. There are other ways to do what you need to do. Why do you think you need VPC? Check your ports...

Allocate 768mb ram to it.

you seem to lack neccessary knowledge about UNIX.

How can you allocate more than 512m to it? Your answer is to kick it, right?

You are no more than a fool who likes to pay everything.

budster101 · Sep 6, 2005, 12:37 PM

Didn't you just ask how to speed up VPC? Where is all of your knowledge?
Why get on my case? I'm just expressing my opinion based on my own experience.

I used it, and I only had 1GB Ram, so I thought if you had more Ram you could allocate more Ram to it.
What has that got to do with UNIX?

Unix can't address more than half a gig? What?

My answer is nothing, I was corrected by someone and accepted their thoughts on the topic. END of story.
I don't use that application, if you would have quoted more of my post, you would have seen where I asked why you used it... and if there were an alternative. You never replied exept to FLAME me.

"You are more than a fool who likes pay everything."

WTF does that mean?

Chuckit · Sep 6, 2005, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by david_copperfield

you seem to lack neccessary knowledge about UNIX.

I'd say he possibly lacks necessary knowledge about what a virus is (keeding, keeding), but I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

budster101 · Sep 6, 2005, 03:02 PM

I know what a virus is, and what it does... slows your system down for one.
WINDOWS...

Anyway. Good luck with your slow-down. How about buy a PC to do that work you need Windows for?

ghporter · Sep 6, 2005, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

I know what a virus is, and what it does... slows your system down for one.
WINDOWS...

Anyway. Good luck with your slow-down. How about buy a PC to do that work you need Windows for?

Considering how much VPC costs, if you don't get it bundled with something else you really need, buying a cheap PC to do Windows stuff isn't a bad idea. At least your Mac won't be full of Windows stuff and slow because of it.

david_copperfield · Sep 6, 2005, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

Didn't you just ask how to speed up VPC? Where is all of your knowledge?
Why get on my case? I'm just expressing my opinion based on my own experience.

I used it, and I only had 1GB Ram, so I thought if you had more Ram you could allocate more Ram to it.
What has that got to do with UNIX?

Most virus are windows-oriented. since mac are based on unix and unix are not widely used, making unix-oriented virus is just wasting time. That is why i said you lack the knowledge.

Your answer is nonsense as well. You can't allocate more than 512M to vpc. I'm not new to Mac or Unix. I have been using it for 3 years. I am just new to VPC, and don't want to spend time exploring it. That is why I asked stupid-like questions here.

Originally Posted by budster101

WTF does that mean?

Don't you remember why we quarrelled last time? Let me tell you one thing: I paid nothing for VPC7.

Ji Eun · Sep 6, 2005, 10:59 PM

i use a lite version of win 98 in my VPC, on an iBook 1.2 / 512mb RAM. it's pretty fast, enough to run my x86-specific programs with ease. mind you i'm not running autocad or something.

budster101 · Sep 6, 2005, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by david_copperfield

Most virus are windows-oriented. since mac are based on unix and unix are not widely used, making unix-oriented virus is just wasting time. That is why i said you lack the knowledge.

Your answer is nonsense as well. You can't allocate more than 512M to vpc. I'm not new to Mac or Unix. I have been using it for 3 years. I am just new to VPC, and don't want to spend time exploring it. That is why I asked stupid-like questions here.

Don't you remember why we quarrelled last time? Let me tell you one thing: I paid nothing for VPC7.

Ok now you need a lesson here. I said, CHECK YOUR PORTS. If you are online and you are running VPC you may be vulnerable to NOT A VIRUS but an open port attack.

I never said it was actually a virus, but it does act like one, just like windows. My UNIX knowledge is just fine thanks.

I know all about supporting Windows computers, worked on them for 17 years.

No, I don't remember about you. I am just trying to help. If you have a problem with me, I'm sorry.

I'll say good luck to you one last time. You still NEVER ANSWSERED MY QUESTION.

Why do you NEED VPC?

eh? Speak up.

Cadaver · Sep 6, 2005, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Macpilot

I don't believe you can allocate more than 512mb to VPC. At least in Panther with VPC 7 you couldn't.

I have 3.5GB of RAM, and I am unable to allocate more than 512MB of RAM (plus 16MB of VRAM) to my "guest" virtual machines. VPC 7 seems to peak at 512MB.

budster101 · Sep 6, 2005, 11:55 PM

VPC is useless.

david_copperfield · Sep 7, 2005, 03:27 AM

it is useful since many softwares are not friendly. i install vpc mainly because it enables me to play a game which is not supported by Mac.

buying a low end PC is not a good solution. It is inconvenient to travel around with 2 computers.

since you forget who I am, I have no reason to continue my evil intention to you.

thanks for you suggestion.

budster101 · Sep 7, 2005, 08:07 PM

You play games in VPC? That's not going to be too good in performance.
No problem. I'm the new improved and nicer Budster101.

Person Man · Sep 7, 2005, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by david_copperfield

Don't you remember why we quarrelled last time? Let me tell you one thing: I paid nothing for VPC7.

Paid nothing for it?

It was a gift right? If you pirated it, then you should get no more help from us, because WE DON'T SUPPORT SOFTWARE THAT IS PIRATED!

budster101 · Sep 7, 2005, 09:45 PM

Now I remember. You did pirate it, didn't you?

Somebody confirm this, because I'm too lazy to. If you did, Person Man is 100% correct. We do not support software that is pirated. Period. End. of. story.

BTW: You can't play games on VPC. Dork.

david_copperfield · Sep 8, 2005, 04:03 AM

I'm playing a game on it now. It is just a network poker game.

Come on. don't make a fuss. I got it from my friend as a gift. You don't pay gifts, do you?

budster101 · Sep 8, 2005, 08:07 AM

So what's the problem? Why bother with a thread? How am I the one here making a fuss?

david_copperfield · Sep 8, 2005, 09:36 AM

There is no problem at all. Let's go back to the topic.