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Diggory Laycock · Feb 5, 2004, 12:51 PM

Bluetooth 1.5 for Mac OS X provides support for Bluetooth enabled headsets and printers.

NOTE: Headsets must support the Bluetooth headset profile and printers must support the Bluetooth HCRP profile. In order to configure and use a Bluetooth headset, the Bluetooth module must have the latest Bluetooth firmware from the Bluetooth Firmware Updater application version 1.0.2 or later (http://www.info.apple.com/usen/bluetooth/).

For information about using Bluetooth 1.5 or about making your Macintosh Bluetooth-enabled, visit the Apple website at http://www.apple.com/bluetooth/.

Yay! SCO links == Headset support

-Q- · Feb 5, 2004, 12:55 PM

Headsets? Now this bluetooth stuff is getting really interesting....

Moonray · Feb 5, 2004, 01:06 PM

Hooray, again a reboot.

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Red Wolf · Feb 5, 2004, 01:17 PM

I have a Jabra BT200 bluetooth headset and while I can pair it with my iBook (was able to do that before the update) I still can't set it up as a device or have the Audio preference recongize it as a device. And I was so hoping to test the new iChat AV beta (Windows compatiable) with my headset

Diggory Laycock · Feb 5, 2004, 01:22 PM

I had to update the firmware on my Bluetooth module (internal Powerbook 17" 1GHZ) before I could use the headset as a headset - try that and set it up specifically as a headset via the "Set Up Bluetooth Device" thingy (BT menu extra or BT Pref pane button)

Vader�s Pinch of Death · Feb 5, 2004, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Moonray:
Hooray, again a reboot.

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Does your wee wee shrink when you reboot your computer or what the heck is the big deal?

andretan · Feb 5, 2004, 01:29 PM

Does the v1.5 update work with other Bluetooth adapters other than the DLINK one?

Red Wolf · Feb 5, 2004, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
I had to update the firmware on my Bluetooth module (internal Powerbook 17" 1GHZ) before I could use the headset as a headset - try that and set it up specifically as a headset via the "Set Up Bluetooth Device" thingy (BT menu extra or BT Pref pane button)

I don't even get a headset option in the setup menu so I guess I do need new firmware. Nice of Apple to not include that in Software Update

Thanks.

Kenneth · Feb 5, 2004, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Vader�s Pinch of Death:
Does your wee wee shrink when you reboot your computer or what the heck is the big deal?

It is a big deal for me...

Vader�s Pinch of Death · Feb 5, 2004, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Kenneth:
It is a big deal for me...

So what you're saying is that your wee wee does indeed shrink?

Red Wolf · Feb 5, 2004, 01:56 PM

Thanks Diggory, the firmware update did the trick. Listening to my iTunes through the headset right now and waiting for some cowokers to get back from lunch to try out iChat AV with it. I'm going to have to carry my charger around now, I'm going to be wearing out the battery a lot

Diggory Laycock · Feb 5, 2004, 02:14 PM

I just tried a video chat with the headset - very cool, especially when I wandered away from my computer to get the webcam, and continued chatting. (although the headset only seemed to work properly with the new iChat Beta)

Hmmm - Bluetooth Headset + Speakable Items next....

voodoo · Feb 5, 2004, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Red Wolf:
I have a Jabra BT200 bluetooth headset and while I can pair it with my iBook (was able to do that before the update) I still can't set it up as a device or have the Audio preference recongize it as a device. And I was so hoping to test the new iChat AV beta (Windows compatiable) with my headset

There is an iChat AV beta for Windows??

Rumor Addict · Feb 5, 2004, 02:53 PM

Whats the true in the real world range of Bluetooth? Could I walk about my apartment and be on iChat via bluetooth headset?

Or would that be more like a 802.11b headset

Diggory Laycock · Feb 5, 2004, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by voodoo:
There is an iChat AV beta for Windows??

No - but there is an iChat beta that works (video chat-wise) with a recent version of AIM for Windows.

Rumour Addict:

Real wold range depends on the device - my Sony Ericsson p800 phone and headset and My PowerBook have good reception and work up to about 5 meters. I also have a TomTom bluetooth GPS receiver that has terrible range (I think that is rare though.)

voodoo · Feb 5, 2004, 03:09 PM

Oh yeah

RayK · Feb 5, 2004, 03:31 PM

I've been waiting for this update, I can video chat with my friends and especially my girlfriend. Yay!

Horsepoo!!! · Feb 5, 2004, 03:48 PM

Haha! Kenneth and moonray, stupid ass bitches, you'll have to reboot again once iChat 2.1 is out of beta. Suckahs.

Oh yeah...and you'll have to reboot for 10.3.3 and 10.4.

Kenneth · Feb 5, 2004, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Horsepoo!!!:
Haha! Kenneth and moonray, stupid ass bitches, you'll have to reboot again once iChat 2.1 is out of beta. Suckahs.

Oh yeah...and you'll have to reboot for 10.3.3 and 10.4.

I only reboot ONCE... I first d/l iChat AV.. installed it.. then fired up SoftwareUpdate.. got the BT update.. reboot.

Hey... longer uptime makes me happier.
I used to have 122 days of uptime on my iBook 300 before I put Panther on it.

HOMBRESINIESTRO · Feb 5, 2004, 04:21 PM

are there any bluetooth printers available? i don't know why this is not a standard interface, yet. :-o

-Q- · Feb 5, 2004, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by HOMBRESINIESTRO:
are there any bluetooth printers available? i don't know why this is not a standard interface, yet. :-o

I've only ever seen this HP one and it requires an add-on card....

Red Wolf · Feb 5, 2004, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by HOMBRESINIESTRO:
are there any bluetooth printers available? i don't know why this is not a standard interface, yet. :-o

Check these out. They'll turn most USB printers into Bluetooth printers. Be sure you check with their printer compatability chart first, though.

http://www.ambicom.com/products/wp-kit/index.html

ownersbox · Feb 5, 2004, 09:07 PM

My mouse stopped working after i upgraded. And i can't pair it back up....

Eug Wanker · Feb 5, 2004, 10:16 PM

Doesn't see my Sony Ericsson HBH-65 headset. So I updated the firmware on my D-link adapter. Still doesn't see it.

But the update removes compatibility of the Bluetooth adapter with my Windows desktop.

Now I get the worst of both worlds.

Appleman · Feb 6, 2004, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Doesn't see my Sony Ericsson HBH-65 headset. brick:

Neither on my Sony Ericsson HBH-30.
I choose "Other Products" from the pane. Correct?

Diggory Laycock · Feb 6, 2004, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by Appleman:
Neither on my Sony Ericsson HBH-30.
I choose "Other Products" from the pane. Correct?

No - you should have a choice of "Headset"

Appleman · Feb 6, 2004, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
No - you should have a choice of "Headset"

I don't :-(

Diggory Laycock · Feb 6, 2004, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by Appleman:
I don't :-(

If you have internal Bluetooth (or an external D-Link BT adapter) Try running the BT Firmware Updater - see the link in the quote in the first post.

Appleman · Feb 6, 2004, 08:36 AM

I have the CN-500 - Bluetooth USB Adapter
adapter, installed the Bluetooth firmware, but nevertheless nothing.
Seems like there is not something like ageneral Bluetooth technology. although the adapter works.

Annoying. Here in Europe Sitecom products can be found everywhere, and even in Singapore, so I presume it isn't a small illustre company.

Developer · Feb 6, 2004, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Appleman:
I don't :-(

Then you have to do the firmware update.

Appleman · Feb 6, 2004, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Developer:
Then you have to do the firmware update.

I did

Eug · Feb 6, 2004, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
If you have internal Bluetooth (or an external D-Link BT adapter) Try running the BT Firmware Updater - see the link in the quote in the first post.

I tried it and it didn't help...

I knew I should have waited (because updating the firmware removes Windows compatibility).

Diggory Laycock · Feb 6, 2004, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Eug:
I tried it and it didn't help...

I knew I should have waited (because updating the firmware removes Windows compatibility).

Is your headset discoverable? Can it discover the headset, but not connect to it?

Or can it not discover the headset at all?

I found I had to keep the power button held down as I was turning my HBH-30 on to get it to be discoverable.

Diggory Laycock · Feb 6, 2004, 10:33 AM

Here's a direct link to the Firmware Updater:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120253

It didn't seem to want to update my Server's D-Link Adapter though:

I suppose the H/W value is the hardware revision of the adapter.

Appleman · Feb 6, 2004, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Developer:
Then you have to do the firmware update.

and no, the firmware updater is only for the second version D-link adapter, according to the ReadMe file. So not for other adapters, although it runs it completely.

Eug · Feb 6, 2004, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
Is your headset discoverable? Can it discover the headset, but not connect to it?

Or can it not discover the headset at all?

I found I had to keep the power button held down as I was turning my HBH-30 on to get it to be discoverable.

No it can't see the headset at all. What do you mean by "I had to keep the power button held down"?

I hold the button for several seconds already to turn it on, and my phone sees it no problem.

Diggory Laycock · Feb 6, 2004, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
No it can't see the headset at all. What do you mean by "I had to keep the power button held down"?

I hold the button for several seconds already to turn it on, and my phone sees it no problem.

If your headset works like mine then it only becomes discoverable if you hold the power button longer than it seems you would need to - keep it held down after the headset powers-up and after about 1 sec you should hear another beep and the LED will blink green/red alternating.

This is how my headset works.

Your phone can connect even if the headset is not discoverable - if it has been paired before.

[edit] - see here:

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=557

amishp · Feb 6, 2004, 05:04 PM

i have the jabra bt200. is there a way i can sync my Sony T610 with the address book and then pick up phone calls through my headset once i hit "Answer" on my powerbook??

id appreciate it

Appleman · Feb 6, 2004, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
keep it held down after the headset powers-up and after about 1 sec you should hear another beep and the LED will blink green/red alternating.

yep that's how it works with Sony Ericsson

still no luck with HBH-30

Eug · Feb 7, 2004, 10:50 AM

Hmmm... Interesting. D-Link tells me that if you've upgraded the firmware to the latest Mac version you can backgrade it later to the generic version (which works both in Mac OS X and Windows) simply by reinstalling the Windows driver while the dongle is installed on the PC. The driver will supposedly automatically update the firmware. Hope this works.

(The Mac version of the firmware offers me zero advantage by the way since it still doesn't work with my SE HBH-65 headset, and the generic version already worked fine with Salling clicker with my SE T610 phone, even one floor down.)

P.S. I got a response from D-Link within 1 day. Good service.

warnergt · Feb 7, 2004, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by ownersbox:
My mouse stopped working after i upgraded. And i can't pair it back up....

My mouse stopped working after the update, too.
My USB mouse connects to my keyboard which,
in turn connects to my Studio Vision display
which, in turn connects to an Apple DVI/ADC
adapter and then to my dual-500 G4.

I have to unplug the USB at the computer
and plug it back in for my mouse to
work again. It seems that every time
I reboot, I have to do this.

This sucks.

Appleman · Feb 7, 2004, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by warnergt:
My mouse stopped working after the update, too.
My USB mouse connects to my keyboard which,
in turn connects to my Studio Vision display
which, in turn connects to an Apple DVI/ADC
adapter and then to my dual-500 G4.

I have to unplug the USB at the computer
and plug it back in for my mouse to
work again. It seems that every time
I reboot, I have to do this.

This sucks.

This is about Bluetooth. How does it affect your USB-mouse?
Do you want to say that the B;uetoooth upgrade affects your USB?

ShotgunEd · Feb 7, 2004, 07:21 PM

I got some sort of no-name bluetooth dongle for Christmas, it worked great with iSync, Address Book and with Salling Clicker.
Seeing this update and reading about the firmware update and the given the fact it said the update would tell you if it wasn't going to work with your dongle, I tried to update the firmware. Much to my surprise, the firmware update program opened and seemed to be working. After about 3 or 4 minutes the update finished and I quit the updater. It was at this point I was told the update had failed.
The dongle is now completely broken, the power and activity lights don't light and the dongle isn't recognised by OSX. I tried plugging the dongle into a Windows machine and ran the installer software there (as suggested above) but to no avail. Both computers know the dongle is there but it seems the firmware is corrupted.

I spent most of the day today trying to figure out how to fix this and every route I go down i come to a dead end. Can anyone suggest how I get this dongle working again?

Thanks.

Jonesy · Feb 8, 2004, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Red Wolf:
I don't even get a headset option in the setup menu so I guess I do need new firmware. Nice of Apple to not include that in Software Update Thanks.

Look in Bluetooth Setup Assistant rather than in the Pref. Pane. Headsets did not appear in my Pref. Pane either (and I have the D-Link Bluetooth module). Don't get too excited. The sound quality is not good. It does work for me though.

For those who cannot see / pair equipment I had a lot of trouble with my P900 until I rebooted again. That seems to have fixed it now.

Red Wolf · Feb 8, 2004, 09:53 AM

warnergt: I experience a similar problem with my USB mouse but it happened long before the Bluetooth update. I believe my issue started after installing Panther so I would look to the OS before any recent updates.

ShotgunEd: The only thing I can think of is check with the doggle's manufactorer and see if they have their own firmware update. A software reinstall won't help a firmware issue. If that doesn't work you got the thing only a couple of months ago, I'm sure it is still under warranty. If you are going to be using Bluetooth a lot with your Mac you might also consider eventually getting a D-Link Bluetooth adapter since that brand is fully supported by Apple.

Jonesy: As I posted after that post I was missing the firmware update which was not obviously advertised by Apple. I've always been able to pair my Bluetooth headset ever since I got it but I was never able to set it up as a device until this update.

ShotgunEd · Feb 8, 2004, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Red Wolf:
The only thing I can think of is check with the doggle's manufactorer and see if they have their own firmware update. A software reinstall won't help a firmware issue. If that doesn't work you got the thing only a couple of months ago, I'm sure it is still under warranty. If you are going to be using Bluetooth a lot with your Mac you might also consider eventually getting a D-Link Bluetooth adapter since that brand is fully supported by Apple.

Like I said, I don't know who the manufacturer is, there is no name on the box, or on the dongle, all I have is the FCC ID and the FCC ID search page hasn't been working.

Cambridge Silicon Radio made the bluetooth chip but they tend to make most of the chips, and their support seems to be 'ask the manufacturer'.

If all I can't do with a non-D-Link dongle is use the headset profile then I'd rather pay 1/3 of the price and get a no-name brand.

Thanks for your help.

Riemann Zeta · Feb 8, 2004, 03:37 PM

My wireless BT keyboard died after using this upgrade. I cannot get it to resync.

TC · Feb 9, 2004, 06:41 AM

Just wanted to ask a BT related question.
If you can now use a BY headset as an audio device can you do the same with a BT mobile phone? I mean have your mac use your mobile for audio in/out?

Not sure how useful it would be but using a phone to talk over ichat might feel more like you're talking to someone on the phone.

Red Wolf · Feb 9, 2004, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by TC:
Just wanted to ask a BT related question.
If you can now use a BY headset as an audio device can you do the same with a BT mobile phone? I mean have your mac use your mobile for audio in/out?

Not sure how useful it would be but using a phone to talk over ichat might feel more like you're talking to someone on the phone.

I have a BT phone and headset setup with my iBook. The headset appears as an audio device in System Preferences but the phone does not. So the answer you are looking for is no. My guess is the phone's audio is so intergrated with the actual phone system it wouldn't make for a good audio device where as the headset is nothing but an audio device.

rocky2 · Feb 10, 2004, 02:53 AM

Some people (including me) are reporting loss of mouse (especially MS BT mouse) and keyboard functionality after upgrading to BT 1.5 with a D-Link adapter (1.02 firmware). In my case, Jabra BT200 headset is working OK--moderate static--but the MS BT mouse is suffering from endless Connection Lost flash up messages.
Apple need to fix this soon.