[ort888]

Love her or hate her, she was an American icon. Basically a physical representation of all that is wrong with the country actually.

[Eynstyn]

Originally Posted by ort888 

Love her or hate her, she was an American icon. Basically a physical representation of all that is wrong with the country actually.

[Ignoring the callousness of your comments]

Hers was the Cinderella/Pretty Woman/Marilyn Monroe story with a 21st Century twist.

But at heart she was a pretty girl from a small town whose good looks and saucy attitude brought the world to her door and for better or worse, we all were invited in to see it all.

Familiarity breeds contempt. Let's not hate her just because we think we know her.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Gossamer 

I'd kill vigilante killers if the government let me.

Why? And is this a threat?

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by ort888 

Love her or hate her, she was an American icon. Basically a physical representation of all that is wrong with the country actually.

Then we should all be glad she's dead.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker 

I don't know her personally but I did watch her show and she is a total flake but in no way a bad person.

Except she married some dude for his money. Very very very obviously.

[Eynstyn]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

Except she married some dude for his money. Very very very obviously.

Is a woman who marries a doctor or a lawyer or a movie star a bad person?

Does an old man with money who finds a beautiful young woman with a warm, caring, sparkling personality feeling as though he's being taken advantage of by this young woman, or is he feeling grateful? (Cue: Bill Withers' "Use Me")

So how is she bad? How can you call her bad but canonize a person who works in a hospice and cares for those 'on their way out?'

Is there anyone here doing volunteer work at a retirement home or a hospice? Ok, but what about those who work there for a salary? So, now tell me where the line is drawn?

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

Except she married some dude for his money. Very very very obviously.

So she is Hilter II for making an old dude happy for a year?

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Eynstyn 

Is a woman who marries a doctor or a lawyer or a movie star a bad person?

Does an old man with money who finds a beautiful young woman with a warm, caring, sparkling personality feeling as though he's being taken advantage of by this young woman, or is he feeling grateful? (Cue: Bill Withers' "Use Me")

So how is she bad? How can you call her bad but canonize a person who works in a hospice and cares for those 'on their way out?'

Is there anyone here doing volunteer work at a retirement home or a hospice? Ok, but what about those who work there for a salary? So, now tell me where the line is drawn?

If this is who I think it is, welcome back.

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

So she is Hilter II for making an old dude happy for a year?

I feel a little grossed out.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster 

She'll have a movie made about her. That's the difference.

I say James Brown has a movie after him before she does.

[Dark Helmet]

Keep in mind James Brown was the one who liked to slap woman around but Anna is somehow worse.

[Rumor]

Anna Nicole never did anything equivilent to what James Brown did to music.

[finboy]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

This is being treated by the news media similarly to Steve Irwin's death. There's coverage everywhere.

The only difference: everyone loved Steve Irwin.

Steve Irwin was a decent guy, Anna Nicole was a charicature. It irks me that we're now having all this attention on something that folks should have expected.

I always pitied ANS, her life must have been a living hell. Seriously. In the last few months it got even worse.

[shifuimam]

Interesting comments on the fact that (a) we don't really know everything about Anna Nicole, (b) deep down, she was still a hick, and (b) it was probably the TrimSpa that killed her.

At least, that's what I think. I found out right after it happened - my mom told me over IM because there was a big news break about it while she was listening to the radio. I didn't know until tonight that it was cardiac arrest, although that's what I assumed. I wouldn't be surprised if that special TrimSpa has something in it that the FDA will ban after all this.

Nobody deserves to have their only son die of a drug overdose. People make so much fun of Anna Nicole, but how many girls have secretly wished they were confident enough about their bodies to pose for Playboy - and make Playmate of the year?

Not only that, but her daughter is going to grow up having never known her mother. It's really sad. At least Steve Irwin's kids got to spend time with him.

Although, a guy at work did mention that he'd never do an old lady for only $474mil. He figured he could spend all that in a lifetime...so it's not really worth it unless you get at least a few billion out of the deal.

[ort888]

I don't have a problem with her marrying an old guy. They both knew exactly what the deal was. She gets access to his wealth and he gets to boink a blond bombshell for a few years. They knew the circumstances surrounding it. No one was a victim.

The reason I have problems with her is just the way she carries herself. Now, obviously I have only seen her on her show and in various interviews, but she always came off as the most self-centered, ugly, and ignorant person you could imagine. She was rude and abusive to everyone around her. Now maybe this was an exaggeration brought about by clever editing, I don't know. But she choose her own actions and she knew she was being filmed. She is the one who put herself out there and said "Hey, everyone, look at me, look at me!" If she didn't want the spotlight on her, she shouldn't have signed up for a reality show. She shouldn't have constantly put herself out there for the world to see.

When you do that, you open yourself up to whatever judgment and criticism the world can dish out. I do not wish her death, but there is no reason to glamorize what she represented or sugarcoat the reasons she was famous.

[centerchannel68]

She was a talentless whore that would do anything for money... pose nude, **** an old wrinkly guy for a year, whatever. That's why I have no respect for her, and why I'm glad she's dead. IF she did all that **** and WASNT famous, I wouldn't care, but I never understood why someone that talentless, whoreish, and 'bottom of the barrel of humanity' became a celebrity. Good riddance. She'll be replaced by another talentless whore very soon I'm sure >COUGH< Paris Hilton >COUGH<

[Buckaroo]

Originally Posted by Eriamjh 

Now she can be with her first husband, together at last.

That's so romantic.

I think the Millionair was her second husband. She divorced her first back in 85 I believe.

[♥]

What I find particularly strange is that:

1. Her son Daniel supposedly had "flu-like symptoms" before he died unexpectedly.
2. She supposedly complained of "flu-like symptoms" before she died unexpectedly.

[Eynstyn]

Originally Posted by shifuimam 

Interesting comments on the fact that (a) we don't really know everything about Anna Nicole, (b) deep down, she was still a hick, and (b) it was probably the TrimSpa that killed her.

At least, that's what I think. I found out right after it happened - my mom told me over IM because there was a big news break about it while she was listening to the radio. I didn't know until tonight that it was cardiac arrest, although that's what I assumed. I wouldn't be surprised if that special TrimSpa has something in it that the FDA will ban after all this.

Nobody deserves to have their only son die of a drug overdose. People make so much fun of Anna Nicole, but how many girls have secretly wished they were confident enough about their bodies to pose for Playboy - and make Playmate of the year?

Not only that, but her daughter is going to grow up having never known her mother. It's really sad. At least Steve Irwin's kids got to spend time with him.

Although, a guy at work did mention that he'd never do an old lady for only $474mil. He figured he could spend all that in a lifetime...so it's not really worth it unless you get at least a few billion out of the deal.

He only says that because he's not in the position to actually have a rich older woman who'd actually pay him for his services. He'd do it for MUCH less. Believe me.

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

Why? And is this a threat?

Because I have decided in my own mind that what they do is wrong and that they shouldn't have the opportunity to be tried by a court. It's only as much of a threat as you already made.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

She was a talentless whore that would do anything for money... pose nude, **** an old wrinkly guy for a year, whatever. That's why I have no respect for her, and why I'm glad she's dead. IF she did all that **** and WASNT famous, I wouldn't care, but I never understood why someone that talentless, whoreish, and 'bottom of the barrel of humanity' became a celebrity. Good riddance. She'll be replaced by another talentless whore very soon I'm sure >COUGH< Paris Hilton >COUGH<

Gee, why don't you tell us how you really feel? It must be nice to be so perfect and omnipotent and so full of class, that you can be glad that someone is dead. You should look in a mirror sometime, but just before you do, look up the word "narcissism," at thefreedictionary.com, especially definition #2.

[Kevin]

Takes one to know one rob!11

[CollinG3G4]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

Anna Nicole never did anything equivilent to what James Brown did to music.

Yah, no kidding. It's not like Steven hawkings just died.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Rumor 

Anna Nicole never did anything equivilent to what James Brown did to music.

Sorry I didn't know good music could cancel out abuse on women.

Why do they give Michael Jackson such a hard time? Surely the Thriller album alone is worth a couple molested 12 year olds

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Gossamer 

Because I have decided in my own mind that what they do is wrong and that they shouldn't have the opportunity to be tried by a court. It's only as much of a threat as you already made.

Tons of people get off in court due to a screwup by the police, OR, girls don't report being raped because they're embarassed. Maybe if one of your female friends gets raped you'll feel differently. I'd do a lot of **** to a rapist...,, and take my time making them pay.

[ShortcutToMoncton]

with hay?

[Face Ache]

Breaking news: Young woman meets sudden, tragic death
This is a special report.

Normally at this hour, we bring you some lighter fare, maybe the latest dumb comment from the world of sports, or even a tear-jerker like a picture of stranded polar bears. But tonight, there is one story that is so important that we are going to suspend all regular blog coverage, and ignore everything else that is going on in world, from the presidential race to the gridlock in the halls of Congress to the indictment of the most powerful politician here in our hometown of Philadelphia.

This breaking news story is about the sudden, unexpected, and tragic death of a young woman, not to mention the family that she leaves behind.

Yes, people die every day, and too many do so before their time. But this woman was special, and the things that she did made an impact on all of us.

Oh, there were many things that this woman, so deserving of our undivided attention tonight, did not do. No, she didn't take off her clothes for a men's magazine for a big payday, work as "an exotic dancer" or marry a billionaire customer who was 63 years older than her. Nor did she spend most of her adult life pursuing that billionaire's estate in courtrooms from Texas to Washington, D.C., or record her life for a reality TV show, or abuse drugs, or give birth to a child whose paternity is the focus of a legal battle.

Frankly, we feel silly for even writing those things, because such a woman would clearly not be newsworthy.

No, unlike some women you might see on your newsstand this week, this woman liked simple things: According to one report, she "always enjoyed the water, including boating and scuba diving. She also liked yoga and music and spending time with family and friends."

This is what her aunt says about this unique woman that America mourns tonight:

"If you knew her, you loved her. She was a go-getter. She knew what she wanted in life and she was doing what she had to do to achieve that."

Her name is Jennifer M. Parcell. She was just 20 years old, and she graduated in 2004 from Fallston High School in her hometown, Bel Air, Md.

A couple of years ago, Jennifer Parcell went to Parris Island and watched the Marine graduation services for her older brother, Joseph. She decided that she, too, wanted to join the Marines, and eventually both Jennifer Parcell and her brother were sent to Iraq, even serving at the same post for a time.

But then, they separated. Yesterday, Jennifer Parcell was supporting combat operations in Al Anbar province when she was killed in action. If we had more information about her death, we would provide it. But here at Attytood, we don't have the millions of dollars in resources or the extra manpower that they have at CNN, or MSNBC, or Fox News...

http://www.attytood.com/2007/02/brea...oman_meet.html

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

Sorry I didn't know good music could cancel out abuse on women.

Why do they give Michael Jackson such a hard time? Surely the Thriller album alone is worth a couple molested 12 year olds

You obviously misunderstood my original statement.

Send me a postcard from Conclusions.

[brassplayersrock²]

it happens

-a

[Tiresias]

She checked into the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida, on Monday with her lawyer and boyfriend, Howard K. Stern.

Howard Stern? (For a minute there...)

[climber]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

Tons of people get off in court due to a screwup by the police, OR, girls don't report being raped because they're embarassed. Maybe if one of your female friends gets raped you'll feel differently. I'd do a lot of **** to a rapist...,, and take my time making them pay.

As imperfect as the current legal system is, I trust it's judgement infinitely more than yours. I doubt you can find anyone that thinks "justice" needs your help.

...back on topic. How does any of this relate to Anna Nicole derserving death? Did she break any laws, or is it she offended your moral code?

[IceEnclosure]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

She was a talentless whore that would do anything for money... pose nude, **** an old wrinkly guy for a year, whatever. That's why I have no respect for her, and why I'm glad she's dead. IF she did all that **** and WASNT famous, I wouldn't care, but I never understood why someone that talentless, whoreish, and 'bottom of the barrel of humanity' became a celebrity. Good riddance. She'll be replaced by another talentless whore very soon I'm sure >COUGH< Paris Hilton >COUGH<

Oooh, Bitter Rob strikes again. Don't worry, maybe you'll get to be a chick in your next life. I'd imagine it'd be easy to be a BIGGER whore than ANS was. She showed more restraint than some girls I know. She never brought harm on anyone. Maybe ham, but not harm. You have unhealthy things in your head man. Does your girlfriend/wife/w**** give you high fives for your thought spewage?

[IceEnclosure]

Oh, and are you sweating profusely and grinding your teeth right now?

(that's how i picture it)

[lpkmckenna]

Live fast. Die young. Leave a busty corpse.

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by ♥ 

What I find particularly strange is that:

1. Her son Daniel supposedly had "flu-like symptoms" before he died unexpectedly.
2. She supposedly complained of "flu-like symptoms" before she died unexpectedly.

I agree with you, heart, the circumstances sound a little too similar to be purely coincidental. I didn't hear about the flu-like symptoms, but when they said heart attack it immediately made me think of her son's death.

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure 

Oooh, Bitter Rob strikes again. Don't worry, maybe you'll get to be a chick in your next life. I'd imagine it'd be easy to be a BIGGER whore than ANS was. She showed more restraint than some girls I know. She never brought harm on anyone. Maybe ham, but not harm. You have unhealthy things in your head man. Does your girlfriend/wife/w**** give you high fives for your thought spewage?

The remarkable thing is, until now I would have thought you and Rob were friends.

[MindFad]

Hmmph, I'm going to the Improv at the Hard Rock tomorrow night where she collapsed. I wonder if they'll think it too soon to crack jokes. Oh well, it's a shame—but our lives go on.

[IceEnclosure]

I think we agree to disagree on occasion. Additionally, I often pass on posting such replies. I just think it was rather cold of him. And I'm a fairly cold dude. oh, and in the girlfriend/wife/w**** part, w**** meant "whatever". I can't recall if he's married or what. Dunno why I ***'d it out. Sorry for referring to your wife as a "whatever". Surely, she's no Anna Nicole Smith.

[analogika]

Originally Posted by Face Ache 

Attytood: Breaking news: Young woman meets sudden, tragic death

thank you for perspective.

[Eynstyn]

Originally Posted by Face Ache 

Attytood: Breaking news: Young woman meets sudden, tragic death

We can mourn both, maybe?

One we knew very little about who represents the millions of uncelebrated Americans who make up our country and helps to make it great. And one who was so big and beautiful and outrageous and curious and pathetic to us that we became interested in her every move. And to the thousands of others who also died today who we did not know, we mourn them, too. And none of them is any less important than anyone else. They were simply less well known in life.

No one is going to make fun of you for honoring Jennifer M. Parcell. So why don't we all stop criticizing those who remember ANS? This thread is like her wake. And you wouldn't be here if you weren't touched by her to some extent. If you knew Jennifer M. Parcell maybe you would start a thread to honor her memory. I'd hope it would have as many visitors as this one. Her devotion and commitment to this country deserves our gratitude and respect.

Anna Nicole Smith occupied a place in all of our hearts or minds or both and that is why we are here.

[Face Ache]

Last week it was a dead racehorse.

[Eynstyn]

Originally Posted by Face Ache 

Last week it was a dead racehorse.

And tomorrow it will be someone or something else. That is, until we no longer have hearts and no longer care about anything or anyone but ourselves. And then who will mourn for you? And if that doesn't matter to you, then I will mourn for you now because you are already dead inside.



Just kidding. I don't really care. I just think we are becoming too polarized. There are some who are too cold and others who are too emo.

Where's Goldilocks these days?

[Millennium]

Originally Posted by Eynstyn 

Anna Nicole Smith occupied a place in all of our hearts or minds or both and that is why we are here.

Um... I think you're aiming a little high there, by about 18 inches. I may not be a fan, but it's difficult to deny how ridiculously hot she was in her prime. The comparisons to Marilyn Monroe may be oddly apt, because this is what she'll be remembered for in the end.

In the shorter term we may remember the incredibly self-destructive life she led, but after an initial rush of sales for the DVD box set of her show, that will probably pass. In five years that will all be the stuff of obscure documentaries. The son who raised her, when it should have been the other way around, will probably be even less remembered. No doubt the American obsession with train-wreck lives will remain in some form or another, but we'll have forgotten where it came from, just as with so many other memes.

It's the daughter we should really be sad for. The mother is free now; to her, at least, death probably came as a friend. But now the daughter has lost both her mother and brother, not merely within months of each other but also within months of just being born.

[Kevin]

Don't be surprised in 20 years if the daughter isn't in the same situation.

[red rocket]

Never harmed anyone, right.

1. Marries some old geezer for his money.
2. Old geezer dies soon after.
3. He didn't include her in his will.
4. She has the nerve to drag his family through a decade of court cases because she feels she's entitled to half his money.

IMO, that makes her a gold-digging bitch without a shred of decency.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Within weeks of J. Howard Marshall's death, Smith squared off against his son, E. Pierce Marshall, for half of her late husband's $1.6 billion estate. She joined forces with J. Howard's other son, James Howard Marshall III, whom the elder Howard had disowned. Howard III claimed J. Howard orally promised him a portion of his estate; like Smith, Howard III was also left out of J. Howard's will, which he updated weeks after their marriage. The case has gone on for more than a decade, producing a highly publicized court battle in Texas and several judicial decisions that have gone both for and against Smith in that time.

In 1996, Smith filed for bankruptcy in California as a result of a $850,000 judgment against her in a legal action unrelated to the Marshall estate. As any money potentially due her from the Marshall estate was part of her potential assets, the bankruptcy court involved itself in the matter.

Smith claimed J. Howard orally promised her half of his estate if she married him. In September 2000, a Los Angeles bankruptcy judge awarded her $449,754,134. In July 2001, Houston judge Mike Wood affirmed the jury findings in the probate case by ruling that Smith was entitled to nothing and ordered Smith to pay over $1 million in fees and expenses to Pierce's legal team. The conflict between the Texas probate court and California bankruptcy court judgments forced the matter into federal court.

In March 2002, a federal judge vacated the California bankruptcy court's ruling and issued a new ruling but reduced the award to $88 million. In December 2004, a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the March 2002 decision, affirming the Texas Probate jury findings that no misconduct had occurred, Smith was not one of J. Howard Marshall's heirs and that the federal courts lacked jurisdiction to overrule the probate decisions of a Texas state court.

The U.S. Supreme Court decided in September 2005 to hear the appeal of that decision. The Bush administration subsequently directed the Solicitor General to intercede on Smith's behalf out of an interest to expand federal court jurisdiction over state probate disputes.

After months of waiting, Smith and her stepson Pierce learned of the Supreme Court's decision on May 1, 2006. The justices unanimously decided in favor of Smith; Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote the majority opinion. (See Marshall v. Marshall)The decision did not give Smith a portion of her husband's estate, but affirmed her right to pursue a share of it in federal court.

On June 20, 2006, E. Pierce Marshall died at age 67 after an infection. His widow, Elaine T. Marshall, now represents his estate.

The case has been remanded to the 9th Circuit to adjudicate the remaining appellate issues not previously resolved.

[Dakar²]

Originally Posted by Face Ache 

Last week it was a dead racehorse.

You know, I was surprised to find out I had missed that. Not that I care, but supposedly it was a 'big' 'sports' story and I didn't see it anywhere.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by Big Mac 

The remarkable thing is, until now I would have thought you and Rob were friends.

Yeah I don't know what crawled up his ass either.

[smacintush]

Well, you know I have said here before that I don't view death as a tragedy. Death is tragic only to those survivors who wish to make themselves suffer by viewing it as a tragedy. So since I didn't know her and she didn't do anything that I enjoyed I don't really feel much about this. These things happen.

That being said some of you are bitter cold blooded assholes. WHAT exactly made her a BAD person? Who the hell are YOU to judge? WHAT exactly do you think you know about her? You don't know sh*t except the tabloid garbage and that is decidedly biased and usually exaggerated. From what we know she was a woman with problems and she seemed to be self-destructive. If doing things that are bad for us makes us bad people then we ALL deserve to die. Jeez I hate to quote The Bible™ but "Let he who is without sin etc. etc.

She was just a human being. I guess some of you aren't even that so maybe that's why you can't relate.

[smacintush]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

Yeah I don't know what crawled up his ass either.

maybe it was your childish psychotic ranting…just a thought.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by climber 

As imperfect as the current legal system is, I trust it's judgement infinitely more than yours. I doubt you can find anyone that thinks "justice" needs your help.

...back on topic. How does any of this relate to Anna Nicole derserving death? Did she break any laws, or is it she offended your moral code?

Like I said... when one of your friends is raped, and she doesn't report it because she feels horrible about it and doesn't want it publicly known what happened to her and bla bla bla bla bal bla bla and the bastard basically just gets away with it, maybe you'll feel differently. I hope you never have to experience that though.

[centerchannel68]

Originally Posted by smacintush 

maybe it was your childish psychotic ranting…just a thought.

What's psychotic about it? She was a bleached blonde piece of trash that was so outlandish, so whoreish, and so ****ing STUPID that she was quasi-famous. She was trash! Who gives a **** what happens to her. She'd **** a horse for enough money. Why is it psychotic to not give a **** about some trashy gold-digger?