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FBI grills California Muslim high schooler about 'PLO' doodle (Page 3)
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Originally Posted by Doofy
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Since Kevin doesn't get the Pol Lounge and can't be here to defend himself, leave him out of it guys.
Aww, shucks. You just ruin all our fun, Doofy.
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Originally Posted by von Wrangell
What says they support the PLO?
See, yet again you stereotype.
Hi. You cast these personal attacks out like they were candy. You might do well to abide by forum rules.
The black and gold headbands are Fatah/PLO.
The green and white headbands are Hamas.
And for a picture of Arab children not holding weapons, look to most any picture from Givat Haviva.
For pictures of Muslim children not holding weapons, look to any most picture of Iraqi children since 2003.
And lastly, I recommend that you read: http://www.freemuslims.org/document.php?id=65
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Originally Posted by vmarks
Hi. You cast these personal attacks out like they were candy. You might do well to abide by forum rules.
What're you gonna do spank him?
If you're gonna be a moderator with a bias, quit.
Oh, oh! I'm in deep doodoo!
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Originally Posted by Rolling Bones
What're you gonna do spank him?
If you're gonna be a moderator with a bias, quit.
Oh, oh! I'm in deep doodoo!
Personal attacks like that are against the rules, dude. It's not like he's making up some excuse to attack Logic. And I don't think being a moderator means he isn't entitled to his own opinions, like you and Logic apparently do. Just obey the rules and there's nothing he can do to you.
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Originally Posted by Rolling Bones
What're you gonna do spank him?
If you're gonna be a moderator with a bias, quit.
Oh, oh! I'm in deep doodoo!
Originally Posted by vmarks' signature
If this post is in the Lounge forum, it is likely to be my own opinion, and not representative of the position of MacNN.com.
I think that that means he's not a moderator in here.
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Originally Posted by placebo1969
I think that that means he's not a moderator in here.
vmarks is a PL moderator.
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Originally Posted by Rolling Bones
Then why do you and Railroader like this avenue?
Actually, there are only two people I have called "racist" on here. You and KarlG. You, for your racist statements about Mexicans, and KarlG, for his use of "wonder bread" world in a derogatroy way towards Loki.
I am glad you pointed this out. It draws attention once again to you and your having made racists statements in the past and yet you have still not withdrawn those statements.
You are still a racist. I'll disagree with racists all my life. Always have.
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Originally Posted by vmarks
Hi. You cast these personal attacks out like they were candy. You might do well to abide by forum rules.
For some reason I can't remember the last time you "warned" people like Hawkeye et al for calling me (and every other Muslims on this forum) terrorist sympathisers. Nor when he said all of us secretly chear when terrorists kill innocent people.
Oh, yeah. That's because you agree with him.
The second macnn made you a mod in the PL macnn showed its true colours.
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lol. Sounds more like you simply lost the argument.
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Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy
lol. Sounds more like you simply lost the argument.
He always loses the argument because the rules get changed whenever he starts to make a point that might impact someone's carapace.
Player: Oh look, I just scored.
Referee: Sorry, disallowed - we're not playing football anymore, we're playing rugby now.
Player: Since when?
Referee: Since the second before you scored.
Player: Ok then (picks up ball and runs for line scoring amazing try).
Referee: (Blasting on whistle and waving red card) Handball - you're off! It's football again.
Disciplinary Committee: You are clearly part of an organized network that seeks to undermine the civilized rules of the game and as such must be banned for life in order to protect the public.
Why do you hate football?
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Originally Posted by segovius
He always loses the argument because the rules get changed whenever he starts to make a point that might impact someone's carapace.
Player: Oh look, I just scored.
Referee: Sorry, disallowed - we're not playing football anymore, we're playing rugby now.
Player: Since when?
Referee: Since the second before you scored.
Player: Ok then (picks up ball and runs for line scoring amazing try).
Referee: (Blasting on whistle and waving red card) Handball - you're off! It's football again.
Disciplinary Committee: You are clearly part of an organized network that seeks to undermine the civilized rules of the game and as such must be banned for life in order to protect the public.
Why do you hate football?
Shukran.
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Originally Posted by von Wrangell
Shukran.
afwan
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Originally Posted by segovius
afwan
Wonder how many will panic from that little exchange
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Originally Posted by segovius
afwan
Ana ma ba'aref ahkee Arabee. argila!
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Originally Posted by von Wrangell
Wonder how many will panic from that little exchange
Don't worry - the Satanic westerners are too corrupt and depraved to crack our code and know that our plan to install the Caliphate and reduce them to Dhimmis by the sword is nearly complete....
mwmwmwhahahaha....
oops....
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Originally Posted by von Wrangell
For some reason I can't remember the last time you "warned" people like Hawkeye et al for calling me (and every other Muslims on this forum) terrorist sympathisers. Nor when he said all of us secretly chear when terrorists kill innocent people.
Oh, yeah. That's because you agree with him.
The second macnn made you a mod in the PL macnn showed its true colours.
Take off the tinfoil hat. Of course a moderator is more likely to notice your meaningless personal attacks if you direct them at him.
Also, if you would just obey the rules, it wouldn't matter to you how evenly he applies them.
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Originally Posted by segovius
He always loses the argument because the rules get changed whenever he starts to make a point that might impact someone's carapace.
Player: Oh look, I just scored.
Referee: Sorry, disallowed - we're not playing football anymore, we're playing rugby now.
Player: Since when?
Referee: Since the second before you scored.
Player: Ok then (picks up ball and runs for line scoring amazing try).
Referee: (Blasting on whistle and waving red card) Handball - you're off! It's football again.
Disciplinary Committee: You are clearly part of an organized network that seeks to undermine the civilized rules of the game and as such must be banned for life in order to protect the public.
Why do you hate football?
What rule got changed? He'd stopped actually debating and started just accusing everyone who disagreed with him of racism. Do you think if he were allowed to keep personally attacking all the other posters, it would somehow mutate into a valid point about the PLO?
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Originally Posted by segovius
Don't worry - the Satanic westerners are too corrupt and depraved to crack our code and know that our plan to install the Caliphate and reduce them to Dhimmis by the sword is nearly complete....
mwmwmwhahahaha....
oops....
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
Take off the tinfoil hat. Of course a moderator is more likely to notice your meaningless personal attacks if you direct them at him.
Also, if you would just obey the rules, it wouldn't matter to you how evenly he applies them.
Perhaps you should read some of Hawkeye's and Doofy's posts the last three months before making those claims?
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
What rule got changed? He'd stopped actually debating and started just accusing everyone who disagreed with him of racism. Do you think if he were allowed to keep personally attacking all the other posters, it would somehow mutate into a valid point about the PLO?
I don't accuse everyone who disagree with me of racism. I don't want to reduce the word "racism" to some meaningless term. I disagree on almost everything with Simey, but I've never called him a racist. I disagree on almost everything with TI, but I've never called him a racist. The list goes on.
But you can be damn sure I'm going to use it when it applies. And as for why I stopped debating? Simple. Working against racism is more important to me than spending time explaining why Hamas are not the PLO.
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Originally Posted by von Wrangell
Perhaps you should read some of Hawkeye's and Doofy's posts the last three months before making those claims?
I feel pretty confident that breaking the rules by personally attacking a moderator is a bad idea no matter what Hawkeye and Doofy have done. Not all violations necessarily get moderators' attention (they aren't all-seeing, and they may even be biased enough to downplay some in their minds), but that's a pretty good way to guarantee your rule-breaking catches their eye.
Originally Posted by von Wrangell
I don't accuse everyone who disagree with me of racism. I don't want to reduce the word "racism" to some meaningless term. I disagree on almost everything with Simey, but I've never called him a racist. I disagree on almost everything with TI, but I've never called him a racist. The list goes on.
But you can be damn sure I'm going to use it when it applies.
You accused me of racism for reading a couple of image tags. If that isn't a knee-jerk reaction, I don't know what is.
Originally Posted by von Wrangell
And as for why I stopped debating? Simple. Working against racism is more important to me than spending time explaining why Hamas are not the PLO.
And insulting people is somehow supposed to combat racism? I don't think that works.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
I feel pretty confident that breaking the rules by personally attacking a moderator is a bad idea no matter what Hawkeye and Doofy have done. Not all violations necessarily get moderators' attention (they aren't all-seeing, and they may even be biased enough to downplay some in their minds), but that's a pretty good way to guarantee your rule-breaking catches their eye.
Well, I've tried reporting it. I've tried talking to them about it. And the list goes on. Nothing is done so I'll just deal with it myself.
You accused me of racism for reading a couple of image tags. If that isn't a knee-jerk reaction, I don't know what is.
I'm sorry if it came across that way (which it unfortunately did) but I was at work so I didn't have as much time to explain it to you as I hoped. From your posts on here it's pretty obvious that you aren't a racist. You might be a bit too quick to come to conclusions though from a few pics
And insulting people is somehow supposed to combat racism? I don't think that works.
What works then? Because I've done everything else.
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Originally Posted by von Wrangell
What works then? Because I've done everything else.
Perhaps you haven't noticed that the reason you're getting nowhere in your anti-racism crusade is because the NN is almost racism free. Your crusade is pointless because there's nothing to crusade against.
No, your religion isn't your race. Never was, never will be.
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Originally Posted by von Wrangell
Perhaps you should read some of Hawkeye's and Doofy's posts the last three months before making those claims?
Yes folks, go read my posts for the last three months. Educate yourselves.
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Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Yes folks, go read my posts for the last three months. Educate yourselves.
2nded.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Yes folks, go read my posts for the last three months. Educate yourselves.
...about Islamophobia.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
No, your religion isn't your race. Never was, never will be.
Some points at random in a kind of free-associating manner:
1) race-hate and hate of religion have the same root. Essentially they are both driven by fear - and more importantly far of the same thing: the other.
Many of today's Islam-haters may or may not be racists. It is irrelevant - a racist is essentially a mindless sheep who goes with the flow of common consensus (unless you are on the intellectual level of say, a Geobells or an Evola and today's crop are unfortunately far from that).
In WW2, the German people were not essentially racists themselves, they just refused or were unable to think to think for themselves and as such followed the 'party line'.
Similarly with racism in the 70's in the UK (for example) - racists often began sentences with "they come over here....." (and steal our jobs/women, with their enormous manhoods.....whatever) - again, fear of the other.
And so it is today. Non-thinking sheep going with the flow of orthodoxy - too scared to stand out independently. Have to belong to the herd.
Of course this is excacerbated today by direct propaganda - much of which they pass on themselves unconsciously like carriers of a disease. Which in a way they are.
2) Racist tactics: as stupid as racists are, when organized into groups they sometimes learn lessons - or more correctly the leaders learn lessons and manage to pass this on to the grunts as a form of orders which of course the neanderthals are too scared/unthinking not to follow.
Some of these instructions are interesting:
a) Don't make monkey noises at football matches
b) don't slag off the Jews
Another one is a good one too:
c) focus on attacking Islam rather than Muslims. If called on it say: "your religion isn't your race. Never was, never will be."
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Originally Posted by segovius
Some points at random in a kind of free-associating manner:
All quite wrong. Of course, if you want us to start shouting "racism!" every time some slags Christianity, then we can accommodate.
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My schools had references to PLO all over the place.
It meant Please Leave On.
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Give me ambiguity or give me something else.
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If the kid wrote "KKK" or similar thing (like RaHoWa) you'd turn a blind eye to him being interviewed by the FBI.
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