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freudling · Jul 31, 2007, 03:38 AM

I listened to a 1998 Art Bell show when he had on the late Col. Corso, author of the book: The Day After Roswell. Anyway, what was interesting is, if you believe that aliens crashed at Roswell, as well as have crashed in other parts of the world, and continue to do so, some issues are raised.

One in particular which was discussed on the show is this idea that, alien technology is responsible, for the most part, in regards to most of the technological advances we have seen over the past 60 years. From the silicon chip, to night vision, to fibre optics, plasma, and so forth.

Col. Corso was very candid about pointing out that the US military gave the reversed engineered technology to industry to freely patent it, whereby industry was unclear on where it came from, other than from the government.

If it is taken to be true that aliens do exist, and we have in our possession some of their space craft to study, how much of the technological leaps we have seen do you think are directly linked to alien technology?

- - e r i k - - · Jul 31, 2007, 04:12 AM

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Paco500 · Jul 31, 2007, 08:10 AM

0? I'd say slightly less.

Dakarʒ · Jul 31, 2007, 08:16 AM

Im in ur spaceship stealin' ur technologies

Y3a · Jul 31, 2007, 08:20 AM

Velcro
Fiber optics
plastic composites
Tang
Disco - named after the famous flying saucer maker on Io...

analogika · Jul 31, 2007, 08:41 AM

If people argue that we can't have made all those developments/inventions ourselves, how do they figure the aliens got them?

Paco500 · Jul 31, 2007, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

If people argue that we can't have made all those developments/inventions ourselves, how do they figure the aliens got them?

From us- but they have a time machine so they got them from the future.

Duh.

turtle777 · Jul 31, 2007, 11:14 AM

+1

-t

Chuckit · Jul 31, 2007, 11:25 AM

Us. Most of these products have a pretty identifiable history, not just "Oh, some vague industry got it from the government."

badidea · Jul 31, 2007, 11:26 AM

Most chinese technology is reversed engineered from "alien" technology!
American rocket technology is also reversed engineered from "alien" technology (and so is the russian)!

osiris · Jul 31, 2007, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

If people argue that we can't have made all those developments/inventions ourselves, how do they figure the aliens got them?

Are you saying it's so impossible that a civilization perhaps billions of years more advanced than you could ever imagine could ever possibly have stuff beyond your imagination?

Adam Betts · Jul 31, 2007, 11:37 AM

I heard alien invented night vision technology, not us

Chuckit · Jul 31, 2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by osiris

Are you saying it's so impossible that a civilization perhaps billions of years more advanced than you could ever imagine could ever possibly have stuff beyond your imagination?

Are you saying it's so impossible that our civilization could have invented all this stuff? I think that was the point there.

badidea · Jul 31, 2007, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Adam Betts

I heard alien invented night vision technology, not us

Did you hear that from post #1?

osiris · Jul 31, 2007, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Are you saying it's so impossible that our civilization could have invented all this stuff? I think that was the point there.

Not impossible, but nothing short of miraculous.

My comment was intended more as a 'we don't know everything, but sometimes think we do.'

Paco500 · Jul 31, 2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

My comment was intended more as a 'we don't know everything, but sometimes think we do.'

That's what you think.

analogika · Jul 31, 2007, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

Are you saying it's so impossible that a civilization perhaps billions of years more advanced than you could ever imagine could ever possibly have stuff beyond your imagination?

No, I'm saying that if WE didn't develop this stuff, THEY must have developed it at some point.

If it's so utterly unlikely that humans developed these things on their own, why is it likely to some morons that somebody ELSE could have developed these things on THEIR own?

Or did the ALIENS get their technology from crashed alien space ships as well?

Is technology just part of a creationist universe full of weird alien races that keep passing god-given advancedness along amongst the various civilizations since it was passed down to them from the creator at the beginning of time?

Or is it all just a crapload of bunk, and with a lot of hard work and luck, it actually IS possible for undeveloped races to create increasingly complex technology?

osiris · Jul 31, 2007, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

No, I'm saying that if WE didn't develop this stuff, THEY must have developed it at some point.

If it's so utterly unlikely that humans developed these things on their own, why is it likely to some morons that somebody ELSE could have developed these things on THEIR own?

Or did the ALIENS get their technology from crashed alien space ships as well?

Is technology just part of a creationist universe full of weird alien races that keep passing god-given advancedness along amongst the various civilizations since it was passed down to them from the creator at the beginning of time?

Or is it all just a crapload of bunk, and with a lot of hard work and luck, it actually IS possible for undeveloped races to create increasingly complex technology?

Or maybe a combination of all of the above. C'mon, look at Velcro... it's wonderful.

osiris · Jul 31, 2007, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Paco500

That's what you think.

Exactly.

turtle777 · Jul 31, 2007, 01:18 PM

Pff, what else is new.

I'm using alien developed technology all the time, like the Excel spreadsheets that I get from corporate

-t

Jumbonium2007 · Jul 31, 2007, 03:22 PM

in Roswell A Vulcan ship crashed... all vulcans aboard lived but were forced to live there lives out in the 1940s.. In 2063 The vulcans will return to earth once Dr. Zefram Cochrane takes his first warp flight.. Then things will get amazing.. LOL sorry bout the star trek reference but thats prolly where we got the tech from

Dakarʒ · Jul 31, 2007, 03:26 PM

I heard humans from the future crashed at Roswell. One of them performed certain actions that made him his own grandfather.

::maroma:: · Jul 31, 2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

I heard humans from the future crashed at Roswell. One of them performed certain actions that made him his own grandfather.

I heard they nicknamed on of them Zoidberg.

analogue SPRINKLES · Jul 31, 2007, 03:51 PM

iPhones come from outer space.

Rumor · Jul 31, 2007, 04:41 PM

Furby. That is concrete proof of alien technology.

Dakarʒ · Jul 31, 2007, 04:58 PM

King Bob On The Cob · Jul 31, 2007, 05:05 PM

I hereby declare this the worst thread ever.

You really can follow alot of the ideas through their inceptions. (Babbage with his crazy vacuum tube computer).

Kerrigan · Jul 31, 2007, 05:57 PM

Aliens must have some really shitty technology. The only things they've managed to do is build a big pyramidal pile of stones, and some ancient 1940s computer that ran on paper. No wonder they're always crashing or blowing their cover of secrecy. Don't even get me started on their undercover agents, the Illegal Aliens, who are some of the most inept, shady people that have ever visited Earth.

- - e r i k - - · Jul 31, 2007, 06:10 PM

I suggest we erect a border in the upper atmosphere to prevent these illegal aliens from entering earth and giving us shitty technology.

design219 · Jul 31, 2007, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

I suggest we erect a border in the upper atmosphere to prevent these illegal aliens from entering earth and giving us shitty technology.

Hey, take it to the political lounge!

Kerrigan · Jul 31, 2007, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

I suggest we erect a border in the upper atmosphere to prevent these illegal aliens from entering earth and giving us shitty technology.

Well, that's what the Ozone is for, but the Aliens blasted a hole in it over Australia.

This isn't some joke, Art Bell has been researching this for years.

Super Mario · 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

I heard humans from the future crashed at Roswell. One of them performed certain actions that made him his own grandfather.

Jesus was Marty McFly.

analogika · Aug 1, 2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by King Bob On The Cob

You really can follow alot of the ideas through their inceptions. (Babbage with his crazy vacuum tube computer).

That was Konrad Zuse.

turtle777 · Aug 1, 2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

That was Konrad Zuse.

A German.

That's close enough to an alien

-t

Kerrigan · Aug 1, 2007, 12:19 PM

No, I think the Japanese are more like aliens: they can't eat mashed potatoes without throwing up, they rarely go outside, they have a race of robot servants, they have no idea how to use simple human technology like forks...etc.

analogika · Aug 1, 2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

no idea how to use simple human technology like forks...

They do, absolutely: They use them to stack hay, just like every normal civilization for centuries.

Knives and stabbing devices are instruments of war, not of dinner. Hence the chopsticks.

Rumor · Aug 1, 2007, 12:32 PM

Let me poke you in the eye with a chopstick...

Kerrigan · Aug 1, 2007, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

They do, absolutely: They use them to stack hay, just like every normal civilization for centuries.

Knives and stabbing devices are instruments of war, not of dinner. Hence the chopsticks.

Only an adversarial alien mentality would think about quaint dinner utensils as instruments of war. That's likely why don't know how to use spoons, because they simply aren't interested in such an ineffective means of killing us.

Dakarʒ · Aug 1, 2007, 01:19 PM

I'd like to see someone eat a steak with chopsticks.

Rumor · Aug 1, 2007, 01:21 PM

All this talk of chipsticks is giving me a hankering for mochi.

Ganesha · Aug 1, 2007, 01:55 PM

You can easily trace the history of modern devices. All modern chips are traceable back to the first transistor, and the first transistor wasn't even a very good one. Are you telling me aliens are flying around transistor with gates that are obsolete and unobtainable commercially even by our primitive standards?

analogika · Aug 1, 2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

I'd like to see someone eat a steak with chopsticks.

Dakarʒ · Aug 1, 2007, 05:37 PM

Aha! Pre-cut!

Let's see them wrangle a strip-steak with that!

Kerrigan · Aug 1, 2007, 06:25 PM

Have you seen the emperor of Japan? He looks nothing like an earthling.

Rumor · Aug 1, 2007, 06:40 PM

They walk among us.

Dakarʒ · Aug 1, 2007, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

They walk among us.

climber · Aug 1, 2007, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ

Aha! Pre-cut!

Let's see them wrangle a strip-steak with that!

Lets see you wrangle a whole steer with your fork!

ghporter · Aug 1, 2007, 08:35 PM

The only thing that would convince me that anyone possessed truly alien technology would be for that technology to be demonstrated. Like by producing efficient, smart and functional management. Intelligent government that actually served the true needs of the electorate. Toilet paper that actually tore on the perforations EVERY TIME. You know-those impossible things.

Dakarʒ · Aug 1, 2007, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by climber

Lets see you wrangle a whole steer with your fork!

What does that have to do with anything?