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Jun 28, 2004, 01:03 PM
 
If anybody had info from the keynote please post here! I'm trying to info from a friend who went, and I'll post here if I can get any details...
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:05 PM
 
from macrumors:

3500 registered developers here. 17% increase over last year.

People are seating. Music is playing.

No updates Yet... event starts at 1pm EDT.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:11 PM
 
Last week - introduced our first big breakthrough interfacing iPods and Cars.
Talks about BMW announcement/integration.

Talking about popularity of iTunes, iPods. A lot of people want to play music in their living room.
Reviews AirTunes/Airport Express. can stream music from your computer to your stereo,
integrated with itunes.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:12 PM
 
talks about iPod in BMW's
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:14 PM
 
...the latest Powermacs G5 with 1.25 GHz frontside bus...
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:16 PM
 
Now, would like to talk about PowerMacs. Reviewing recent releases. 1.25GHz front side bus.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:17 PM
 
I would counter with macrumors who has an auto-refresh page.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:17 PM
 
Today: completely new version of the 23" display. Showing it.
Aluminum enclosure. one piece alumnium stand. Small bevel.

Now talking about Displays. We have the best displays. Our competitors buy panels we reject.

25% increase for IBM. 12% increase for Intel over the same time period.

Now, would like to talk about PowerMacs. Reviewing recent releases. 1.25GHz front side bus.
Addressing the 2.5GHz vs 3GHz promise. Explaining that they shifted from 130nm to 90nm,
but the whole industry hit the wall at 90nm and is a lot harder than people thought.
So the speed increases have been relatively small compared to previous experience.
Still says they are doing well in the industry but less then previously
expected.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:17 PM
 
...Aluminium Displays...
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:21 PM
 
Originally posted by larkost:
I would counter with macrumors who has an auto-refresh page.
Too bad it's /. errr wwdc'd :-D
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:21 PM
 
...30"! Wow...
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:24 PM
 
600 $ for the G5 only gfx card! =-o
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:25 PM
 
New graphics card costs $599. Additional notes. they all share the
one cable out which provides DVI, Firewire, USB.

Also - now - largest display ever. 30" Display. 4.1million pixels.
same one piece alumn enclosure. firewire/usb. only works with PowerMac
since needed a new graphics card. existing cards could not drive it.
needs two dvi connections running in parallel.

Today: completely new version of the 23" display. Showing it.
Aluminum enclosure. one piece alumnium stand. Small bevel. One cable from the monitor
which then splits. Also a 20" display. Same quality/enclosure.
20" - $1299, 23" - $1999. avail next month.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:25 PM
 
Originally posted by HOMBRESINIESTRO:
600 $ for the G5 only gfx card! =-o
What is that anyways? Kind of vague... and I wouldn't suppose anyone has any pictures of these displays?...
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:26 PM
 
os x now!
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:29 PM
 
Originally posted by Synotic:
What is that anyways? Kind of vague... and I wouldn't suppose anyone has any pictures of these displays?...
it has to be in the agp/pci graphics slot and it iuses both dvi ports to drive the single monitor.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:30 PM
 
...apps now. ms office, maya,...
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:31 PM
 
The 30" special card is NVIDIA branded....
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:32 PM
 
That has got to be one hell of a card.... maybe they will also provide other high end cards.

BZ

Originally posted by stuffedmonkey:
The 30" special card is NVIDIA branded....
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:32 PM
 
Originally posted by stuffedmonkey:
The 30" special card is NVIDIA branded....
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:36 PM
 
[12:20 PM] Says it will sell for US$3299, that it is 77% bigger than the 23" CD HD, and that it only works with the Power Mac G5. This is, according to Steve, because Apple had to develop a new video card for the unit. Says it requires two cards, but that the two cards will drive two 30" displays. Go figure. Touted the fact that it will drive 8 million pixels with two displays together. Will be available in August. - posted by Bryan

?
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:37 PM
 
for you 3d folks out there:

[12:28 PM] Brought a Maya rep out who said that Maya Unlimited to OS X. This is big news as it finally makes the Mac platform feature compatible with Maya's other platforms (Windows, Linux, IRIX, and perhaps others).
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:37 PM
 
Strange "guitar rig" demo in Garage band going on at the moment, apparently.
(What this has to do with WWDC, I dunno)

Guitar rig demo up right now
they're doing a demo of it loaded into garageband
"Guidar rig is a complete virtual guitar studio"
It has a hardware controller too
"Guitar rig has incredible audio"
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:39 PM
 
From Macobserver:

"Myst Revelations (Myst 4?) to come to Mac. A Ubie Soft (sp?) rep is giving us a run through the game. She noted that Myst initially started off as a Mac-only game. Again, the crowd loves it.

Steve says he had lunch with Bill Gates recently, and that both he and Bill said that their companies' mutual relationships had never been better. The crowd applauded, and Steve said that the Mac Business Unit's products had never been better. He also noted that Borland was bringing its Java development IDE to OS X. "



personal note - I hate when he talks all lovey about Microsoft.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:41 PM
 
Tiger! first half 2005! :-(
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:41 PM
 
Originally posted by stuffedmonkey:

personal note - I hate when he talks all lovey about Microsoft.
They are still the top dogs and untill Office is no longer on 90% of the computers out there, Apple needs MS to produce it.

BZ
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:41 PM
 
Originally posted by stuffedmonkey:
personal note - I hate when he talks all lovey about Microsoft.
I agree -- it's as if MS wouldn't gut Apple like a fish if they could.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:42 PM
 
Starting today, o(u)r focus is on Tiger. ships in 1st half of 2005.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:42 PM
 
150 new main features! of course! LOL
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:44 PM
 
better smb support
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:45 PM
 
Gotta love that 150 features thign.

64 bit.

And I am glad they are taking their time on it. It will allow people to migrate. A year and a half between updates sounds about right.

BZ
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:46 PM
 
best new feature: new searching functions... spotlight search techonology. The screenshots were real! :-o
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:46 PM
 
any process can be 64 bit
better smp acls
built in xgrid
32 bit processes can process with 64 bit
enhanced smb performance
smb home dirs
kerberos and ntlmv2
html email
and word table support in texteedit

"Search is years ahead of longhonrn"
now we have zillion file folders
simX joined the chat room.
it's impossible to find them
it's easier to use google than use your hard disk
so we have to solve this
we solved this in itunes

this is called "spotlight"
you can ask for cmyk images, etc
it's automatic and supports standard formats and it's extensible
works with most current apps
this is integrated into the finder, address book mail and system preferences

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you can save searches as a smart folder
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Originally posted by workerbee:
this is called "spotlight"
you can ask for cmyk images, etc
it's automatic and supports standard formats and it's extensible
works with most current apps
this is integrated into the finder, address book mail and system preferences

Oh sh*t. Those pictures WERE real! (The spotlight effect thingie...)
     
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Originally posted by workerbee:
you can save searches as a smart folder
That is KILLER! It will be a whole new way to look at/organize your files. No longer just throwing them into a folder.

BZ
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:51 PM
 
Looks like they were real indeed.

system preferences has no favorites bar
they replaced it with a search window
let's say you want to change something with your keyboard, you just type it in and it selects the preference

Smart, but ugly.
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:54 PM
 
GNAA was right.

I was wrong.

Anybody have any good crow recipes?
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:56 PM
 
what if you want to know everything you have on something?
"Everything about Bertrand"
in the menu bar in the upper right hand corner, there is a magnifying glass button
you can click on it and get a search field
you can search and get a popdown list of images, etc

potlight found something labeled as "halfdome" in a pdf
it indexes metadata, etc

Longhorn? Who needs Longhorn?
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:56 PM
 
BTW, I think the new Displays will be on apple.com soon.

The Apple store is offline right now, so after the keynote, I think they might have the new displays on there. Sweet if they do! I want to see em already!.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:57 PM
 
Originally posted by Moose:
GNAA was right.

I was wrong.

Anybody have any good crow recipes?
Yeah, what the *&^*^*(& is up with GNAA posting a real story? Next thing you know all those "touched my junk liberally" posts will be real
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:57 PM
 
Originally posted by workerbee:
Smart, but ugly.
Oh god...you can say that again. I've never seen something fuglier in my life. So far, I'm hugely disappointed.

Is there any mention of a new filesystem or a DB filesystem with those smart-folders and new Fugly Spotlight™?
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:58 PM
 
I don't think they are done with new hardware, thats why the store is not up yet... he has yet to do his, "oh yeah, and one more thing...."
     
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Yeah, what the *&^*^*(& is up with GNAA posting a real story? Next thing you know all those "touched my junk liberally" posts will be real
*ahh* the things I miss reading slashdot a +2...
     
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Yeah, please give us a new iMac today.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:00 PM
 
there is also live coverage on macobserver:

http://live.macobserver.com/article/..._keynote.shtml

I think they are doing a better job than macrumors.com
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:02 PM
 
Originally posted by Horsepoo!!!:
Is there any mention of a new filesystem or a DB filesystem with those smart-folders and new Fugly Spotlight™?
Just following it on IRC. No mention of FS or DB FS yet. They did say

they're releasing an sdk today

and

"years ahead of longhorn" (of course)

Now they're talking QuickTime / MPEG 3
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:03 PM
 
Now: Safari. We're going to take it a step further. New thing - RSS.
They're doing some rss stuff now
Safari will now have rss aggregation
get data from sites and format it how you want. List of site that offer RSS sites
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:09 PM
 
Originally posted by Jayznkelc:
there is also live coverage on macobserver:

http://live.macobserver.com/article/..._keynote.shtml

I think they are doing a better job than macrumors.com
Yeah, that is better. Thanks for the link!
     
 
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