[mduell]

Originally Posted by Rob van dam

Does anyone know why the 60gb ipod has more battery life than 30 gb ipod? I thought it would be the other way around with the 30gb having more battery life due to smaller size.Also am i the only who was hoping for 80gb.

Perhaps part of the additional bulk and weight of the 60GB is a larger battery.

[michaelb]

60GB drives are thicker than 30GB drives, meaning a thicker case is needed. The thicker case gives room for a bigger battery. Bigger battery = longer play time.

[michaelb]

Originally Posted by badtz

Regarding DVD ripping, I highly doubt that any major manufacturer will have software that is bundled in, that will let you rip a commercial DVD straight to whatever format it uses.

This will circumvent CSS, and they wouldn't want to upset them.

What I will bet though, is that within the next short months, some developers will develop software that will let you re-encode any of your videos (divx/xvid/mp4/h.264/etc) into an "iPod friendly" format.

For now, you could rip your own DVD (strip protection), downsize it yourself, and place it on the iPod if you want to watch a DVD on the iPod

That's pretty easy to do!

[wilsonng]

Yes, it's easy to do but the average consumer who don't care about learning terms such as divx, xvid, h.264, they don't think it's so easy.

Hey, it's easy to change the oil filter in your car but you still see alot of car owners who don't know how to do it and just take it in to the local garage to get it changed.

[ShotgunEd]

USB only?

Thats me out.

My current iPod syncs with my iBook via firewire and I have no USB2.

I was going to get a 30gigger and give my g/f my 20gigger.

This is bs.

[I WAS the One]

Originally Posted by stwain2003

Will You Shut Up About The Av500!!!!!!!!! Jeez. Read Your Own Signature And Get That We Don't Care!!!!

Why you are attacking me???

I said that I'll would'nt talk about that again... I am finished with that topic.
but don't talk to me like that, dude.

I respect you. so, Respect ME.

[Rob van dam]

Originally Posted by michaelb

60GB drives are thicker than 30GB drives, meaning a thicker case is needed. The thicker case gives room for a bigger battery. Bigger battery = longer play time.

Thanks for clearing that up.Im sort of pedantic about battery life and while 30gb is more than enough for me i seem really attracted to more battery life.So i guess 60 gb down the line

[icruise]

Wow, I can't believe I missed that crack about Japan not having copyright laws. Were you confusing Japan with China? Actually, the iPod was and is fairly popular in Japan. I think it's more that MP3 players in general took longer to gain in popularity.

[Indohottie]

Originally Posted by ShotgunEd

USB only?

Thats me out.

My current iPod syncs with my iBook via firewire and I have no USB2.

I was going to get a 30gigger and give my g/f my 20gigger.

This is bs.

really only usb??? that's kind of ridiculous... would prefer both.. but I guess most computers these days have USB 2.0...

still it sucks..

[Randman]

80GB black with FireWire and I would have ordered one on the spot.

80GB without Firewire and I'd consider it.

For now, I'll wait.

[wilsonng]

the iPod halo effect is hitting all of us Mac veterans who have older Macs with USB 1.1. I'm currently contemplating a low-end Mac Mini to tide me over until the Intel Macs come in.

[atlcane]

the 4:3 aspect ratio is a downer. I wish they could have done 16:9. Maybe next year.

[Geezus_Aach]

Originally Posted by stwain2003

Will You Shut Up About The Av500!!!!!!!!! Jeez. Read Your Own Signature And Get That We Don't Care!!!!

agreed. if anything, go start another thread about whatever product your selling...

[yticolev]

Originally Posted by michaelb

60GB drives are thicker than 30GB drives, meaning a thicker case is needed. The thicker case gives room for a bigger battery. Bigger battery = longer play time.

I thought the 60 GB had two 30GB drives?

[Geezus_Aach]

posted that last post w/o reading the whole thread....

quick ques...16:9 ratio can only be done w/ widescreen...correct?!? not sure if its necessary but we'll see what happens w/ the next gen video ipods

[Partisan01]

Firewire is available as a separate add-on. The new video ipods support firewire, they just don't sell the cable with the ipod. Someone in the firewire vPod thread mentioned a review and said USB2 got 7MB/s while Firewire only was able to acheive 2.9MB/s. The reason for this is that USB users your computers CPU as the controller, whereas firewire has the controller builtin on the iPod itself.

Bottomline: If you want to use the new iPods with firewire you have to buy a $19 cable

[icruise]

Originally Posted by yticolev

I thought the 60 GB had two 30GB drives?

No, it is a 60GB drive.

Originally Posted by Partisan01

Firewire is available as a separate add-on. The new video ipods support firewire, they just don't sell the cable with the ipod. Someone in the firewire vPod thread mentioned a review and said USB2 got 7MB/s while Firewire only was able to acheive 2.9MB/s. The reason for this is that USB users your computers CPU as the controller, whereas firewire has the controller builtin on the iPod itself.

Bottomline: If you want to use the new iPods with firewire you have to buy a $19 cable

I'm pretty sure you are wrong. There's no mention of firewire on the iPod Technical Specifications page at all. And the "Apple iPod Dock Connector to FireWire Cable" product page on Apple's store site lists compatibility with everything but the nano and "iPod with video" products.

The review you are talking about was of the previous generation iPod photo.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by Partisan01

Firewire is available as a separate add-on. The new video ipods support firewire, they just don't sell the cable with the ipod. Someone in the firewire vPod thread mentioned a review and said USB2 got 7MB/s while Firewire only was able to acheive 2.9MB/s. The reason for this is that USB users your computers CPU as the controller, whereas firewire has the controller builtin on the iPod itself.

That sounds like my post, and those speeds were for the iPod Photo. I don't think the iPod Video supports FW.

[busterhide]

USB 1, USB 2, Firewire. Come on is this really an issue. The only time you will be concerned is when you first get it. Do an over nighter. After that you will only be syncing a few songs or videos at a time. 2 minutes or 30 seconds. Plan your syncs around bathroom breaks. But if you want to just buy a new Mac, Apple will not stop you. The Nano works just great on a old B/W G3.

[inkhead]

You should probably be spending your money on a new computer not a new ipod then ;-)

Originally Posted by ShotgunEd

USB only?

Thats me out.

My current iPod syncs with my iBook via firewire and I have no USB2.

I was going to get a 30gigger and give my g/f my 20gigger.

This is bs.

[icruise]

Originally Posted by busterhide

USB 1, USB 2, Firewire. Come on is this really an issue. The only time you will be concerned is when you first get it. Do an over nighter. After that you will only be syncing a few songs or videos at a time. 2 minutes or 30 seconds. Plan your syncs around bathroom breaks. But if you want to just buy a new Mac, Apple will not stop you. The Nano works just great on a old B/W G3.

The nano, yes. It's 2 or 4GB total. But I don't really think it's realistic to use a 30 or 60GB player with USB 1. Aside from the fact that it could take more than 24hrs to fill up the first time, these TV episodes are apparently around 200MB each. If you're going to be using video very much at all, you'll be in for quite a bit of waiting. It's not impossible, no. But it's a pretty major problem just the same.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by Icruise

The nano, yes. It's 2 or 4GB total. But I don't really think it's realistic to use a 30 or 60GB player with USB 1. Aside from the fact that it could take more than 24hrs to fill up the first time, these TV episodes are apparently around 200MB each. If you're going to be using video very much at all, you'll be in for quite a bit of waiting. It's not impossible, no. But it's a pretty major problem just the same.

Assuming that you can only get 0.5MBps over USB1 (a third of the peak bandwidth), that's only about six and a half minutes to transfer a TV show.

[wilsonng]

Originally Posted by Partisan01

Firewire is available as a separate add-on. The new video ipods support firewire, they just don't sell the cable with the ipod. Someone in the firewire vPod thread mentioned a review and said USB2 got 7MB/s while Firewire only was able to acheive 2.9MB/s. The reason for this is that USB users your computers CPU as the controller, whereas firewire has the controller builtin on the iPod itself.

Bottomline: If you want to use the new iPods with firewire you have to buy a $19 cable

Methinks charging over FW is supported but mounting/syncing the iPod to your computer via FW is not. It's the same story with the iPod nano. I can charge via FW but the nano will tell me I can't sync over FW when I connect it to my laptop.

My FW cable will be relegated to use as a charging cable.

[icruise]

Originally Posted by mduell

Assuming that you can only get 0.5MBps over USB1 (a third of the peak bandwidth), that's only about six and a half minutes to transfer a TV show.

And you think that's not a lot of time?

[madmiles05]

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[icruise]

Reported.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by Icruise

And you think that's not a lot of time?

I don't think that's excessive as a worst-case scenario.

[madmiles05]

Originally Posted by Icruise

Reported.

dude i'm so sorry. i didn't realize you didn't want that on this forum. again, i'm really sorry.

[icruise]

Originally Posted by mduell

I don't think that's excessive as a worst-case scenario.

Well, it's not impossible, certainly. But I think it kind of sucks that people should have to do that. I have USB 2, so this doesn't affect me, but I still question whether it would be a good idea to use one of the new iPods with USB 1. Admittedly it depends on how you use it. If you don't do much adding of music or video, you can sync overnight (or longer) the first time and then you're mostly set, although updating will still take a long time. If you're going to be adding things very often, though, I think it would be frustrating.

[ITGuru]

[QUOTE=Senbei]They do have copyright laws which in essense is at times more restrictive especially in the area of fair use. Extensions to the law can also be found in broadcast television where it varies even amongst the different broadcasters.

This is an understatement.

I will clarify that the US laws that protect American copyrights and intellectual properties are not readily adhered to worldwide, not just in Japan. Japan has few laws geared specifically toward protecting US artists while they do have many protecting their own. Distribution in that country is dicey at best. There is way to much corporate influence dictating rules on distribution.

Having said that, here is an intersting link that will give you all more insight into the whiles of world wide distribution and why the sucess that Apple has had in Japan is that much more significant than any other place on earth. I noticed that one of you has a tag line that says that Americans only own 1% of America. I would like to see some numbers to back that up. I am not disputing it as much as I am dreading that it is correct.

This article shows that big business in Japan can and does influence political decision making and lawmaking. Sony entertainment group is similar to Disney (ABC, ESPN, etc. Too many subsidiaries to name) in the respect that you never know when you are watching it because of the length of their reaches. It also discusses the attempt by Sony to deter sales of the iPod in Japan. Good Stuff.

Speaking of Disney. Disney is trying to get back in bed with Pixar. They have come to the realization that the relationship needs to be symbiotic. Look for an agreement from Disney for licensing of content through the iTunes Video Store. It won't be immediate but it should come along shortly. Apple is already offering Pixar Shorts through the store. Who knows? We may be witnessing the birth of the electronic/digital Sundance Film Festival hosted exclusivly by Apple and available for download/viewing by iPod Video customers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/10/te...FF9oxhHVkIxTCQ

Yes, I realize that the NYTimes is member only. This link worked for me and I am not a member. If it doesn't work for you let me know and I will post the article.

[ajprice]

Does the 5G have the extra port next to the headphone jack that the headphones with remote control plugs into? (can't think what you call it!)

[icruise]

No it does not.

[jmelrose]

In the forums at iLounge.com someone has started posting arrival pics. They're loose and roaming in public! Even photos of the included "case"!

[icruise]

Link?

Edit: I found it

[gkorsgard]

FYI - Houston Apple Store has white 30gb video ipod in stock. Just bought one too!

[nycdunz]

gkorsgard do they have any black ones in stock? how many left are there?

[gkorsgard]

Originally Posted by nycdunz

gkorsgard do they have any black ones in stock? how many left are there?

They only got 30gb white. They told me to check back tomorrow for 60 gb.

[pyn]

do they have 60 gb white?