Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Community > MacNN Lounge > Bringing the Lounge back to its former glory

Bringing the Lounge back to its former glory (Page 7)
Thread Tools
KeyLimePi
Mac Elite
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Baltimore
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 06:59 AM
 
Originally Posted by dillerX View Post
Did someone say Aria?
Best. Post. In the thread. Ever.
     
boots
Professional Poster
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Unknown
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 09:13 AM
 
This thread is regaining some glory.

To add to its glory, I submit The Bikerfox Movie
( Last edited by boots; Jan 11, 2008 at 09:20 AM. )

If Heaven has a dress code, I'm walkin to Hell in my Tony Lamas.
     
scaught
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: detroit,mi,usa
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 10:39 AM
 
^ I'm really scared.
     
dillerX
Professional Poster
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Pit Slab #35
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 11:39 AM
 
^ you are not the only one.
I tried to sig-spam the forums.
ADVANTAGE Motorsports Marketing, Inc. • speedXdesign, Inc.
     
chris v
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Sar Chasm
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 12:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by boots View Post
This thread is regaining some glory.

To add to its glory, I submit The Bikerfox Movie
That vid takes the L out of Glory.
( Last edited by chris v; Jan 11, 2008 at 01:21 PM. Reason: stupid typo, noted REPEATEDLY below, by my harshest critics.)

When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift.
     
osiris
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Isle of Manhattan
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 12:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by boots View Post
This thread is regaining some glory.

To add to its glory, I submit The Bikerfox Movie
I felt the need to take a shower in holy water after watching that.
"Faster, faster! 'Till the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." - HST
     
dillerX
Professional Poster
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Pit Slab #35
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 12:42 PM
 
I would melt.
I tried to sig-spam the forums.
ADVANTAGE Motorsports Marketing, Inc. • speedXdesign, Inc.
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 12:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by chris v View Post
That vid tales the L out of Glory.
Do you know how long it took me to figure out that that's a typo?

I kept thinking, "Well, here's the story of an L. It's a sad tale, and it's a funny one, too..." in the voice of the Big Lebowski voice-over narrator.
     
andi*pandi
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: inside 128, north of 90
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 12:48 PM
 
well obviously it takes the L out of "glory" and puts it in "take". L's have to go somewhere!
     
Dakar the Fourth
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In the hearts and minds of MacNNers
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 12:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
well obviously it takes the L out of "glory" and puts it in "take". L's have to go somewhere!
Ok, but where did the 'k' go, hotshot?
     
xi_hyperon
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Behind the dryer, looking for a matching sock
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 01:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by boots View Post
This thread is regaining some glory.

To add to its glory, I submit The Bikerfox Movie
Wow. Almost makes me miss living in Tulsa.
     
chris v
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Sar Chasm
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 01:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by analogika View Post
Do you know how long it took me to figure out that that's a typo?

I kept thinking, "Well, here's the story of an L. It's a sad tale, and it's a funny one, too..." in the voice of the Big Lebowski voice-over narrator.
It's okay, the dude abides.

When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift.
     
andi*pandi
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: inside 128, north of 90
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 02:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
Ok, but where did the 'k' go, hotshot?
I don'k know.
     
Dakar the Fourth
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In the hearts and minds of MacNNers
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 02:49 PM
 
...
...
...now where did the 't' go?!
     
osiris
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Isle of Manhattan
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 02:57 PM
 
that's creepy. how'd you guys do that?
"Faster, faster! 'Till the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." - HST
     
dillerX
Professional Poster
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Pit Slab #35
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 03:00 PM
 
I am so confused. It's almost like we are back on track. :tear:
I tried to sig-spam the forums.
ADVANTAGE Motorsports Marketing, Inc. • speedXdesign, Inc.
     
chris v
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Sar Chasm
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 03:00 PM
 
Oh, hay, we've gone all retro-Lebowski with our sigs!

When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift.
     
dillerX
Professional Poster
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Pit Slab #35
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 03:02 PM
 
How the hell do you people keep all that stuff around? I can't even find **** I put together yesterday.
I tried to sig-spam the forums.
ADVANTAGE Motorsports Marketing, Inc. • speedXdesign, Inc.
     
d4nth3m4n
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Far above Cayuga's waters.
Status: Offline
Jan 11, 2008, 07:28 PM
 
<snip>Inappropriate Image (the picture was fine but the text that's part of it wasn't)<snip>

added by dan-
*NSFW CRUDE LANGUAGE* link to dillz's lebowski sig *NSFW CRUDE LANGUAGE*

and, i'm in on this.
( Last edited by d4nth3m4n; Jan 11, 2008 at 09:21 PM. Reason: Removed inappropriate image)
     
boots
Professional Poster
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Unknown
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 02:57 AM
 
So I guess reposting the Tooki/crack picture would be bad?

If Heaven has a dress code, I'm walkin to Hell in my Tony Lamas.
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 06:39 AM
 
Wow - even language that's starredout is now worth modding out!

When did the Puritan takeover happen?

And how did the board survive the MONTHS when everybody had a Lebowski sig?

And will I get reported by some anal ****wit for saying ****, you ****ing ****s?

Them stars is dangerous - subverting your children's fragile ittle minds...
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 08:22 AM
 
Originally Posted by analogika View Post
And how did the board survive the MONTHS when everybody had a Lebowski sig?
If I'd seen the text in that sig picture before, I'd have done something about it before. I don't recall ever seeing a post by dillerX before yesterday, so the fact that his sig had inappropriate language in the picture was not something I even had an opportunity to notice.

We're trying to balance between adults acting like adults and keeping out of trouble with the parents of the (numerous) underage members of our forums. And I think one reason The Big Lebowski was rated R was the kind of language that was quoted in the picture. I think the term "explicit" applies here?

How is it that crude words and explicit language are "fun" and their lack isn't? Isn't there anything else to talk about?

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 08:41 AM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
If I'd seen the text in that sig picture before, I'd have done something about it before. I don't recall ever seeing a post by dillerX before yesterday
Odd, considering he's been around longer than YOU have.

But he's one of the people I mentioned above, who just stopped posting here a few years ago.
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 08:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
How is it that crude words and explicit language are "fun" and their lack isn't? Isn't there anything else to talk about?
It's Lebowski, dude.

Sheesh.



Edit: I'm also not sure how on earth you'd consider a series of asterisks a "crude word" or "explicit language". I mean, that would completely invalidate this forum's censorship approach, right? Oh ****.
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 09:10 AM
 
The fact that one word was asterisked out did not in any way change the "adult" nature of the wording. In this case, the entire sentence was unacceptably explicit.

I'm not knocking Lebowski at all, by the way. Just the use of that sort of quote in a signature-or a post for that matter.

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 10:18 AM
 
I request locking of the Hot Babes thread, and deletion of Doofy's sig and that one with the sexy tummies, as well as a temporary warning ban for the both of them, and an infraction for everyone who posted in the Babes thread.

I thank you for your understanding.
     
boots
Professional Poster
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Unknown
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 10:33 AM
 
The thread now reads like the Cliff Notes for the last 7 years of the Lounge. It has everything, including the splitting of hairs with mods. Only last time it was about picture size.

If Heaven has a dress code, I'm walkin to Hell in my Tony Lamas.
     
Laminar
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Iowa, how long can this be? Does it really ruin the left column spacing?
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 11:00 AM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
So... how long did it take for you to come up with that laundry list?
Oh, that was just off the top of my head.
     
chris v
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Sar Chasm
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 12:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by boots View Post
The thread now reads like the Cliff Notes for the last 7 years of the Lounge. It has everything, including the splitting of hairs with mods. Only last time it was about picture size.
I got Tookinated over 10 pixels, one time.

When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift.
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 12:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by analogika View Post
I request locking of the Hot Babes thread, and deletion of Doofy's sig and that one with the sexy tummies, as well as a temporary warning ban for the both of them, and an infraction for everyone who posted in the Babes thread.

I thank you for your understanding.
That's silly. You're doing what the "anti-porn" crusaders do-equating (typically feminine) nudity with sex. Not the same thing at all. It's simply not appropriate for the kind of language in that picture to be in our forums. That's a completely different thing from showing a little skin.

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 01:03 PM
 
And starring out a word with asterisks is "completely different" from letting it stand - as per the apparent guidelines of this forum.

Unless you somehow get it into that head of yours that it isn't simply because some morality freak decides he needs to complain about it.


And of course, my righteous indignation over the Hot Babes Picturefest has *nothing* to do with pornography. It's just terribly denigrating to women. Or something, I don't care. I'll complain anyway, just because I know it'll have to result in some infractions or CONSEQUENCES. Yes. Consequences. Mmmmm...
     
Timo
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: New York City
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 01:24 PM
 
This is silly. ghporter's a good guy and beating up on him will not bring back the lounge fun.

As I recall, what was fun about the lounge was the zany energy and creativity of it. Not high holy stands about freedom of speech on the one hand or community standards on the other hand. High, positive energy -- not this finger-pointing.

Hot babes picturefest isn't offensive to me because of the images (although their unrelenting one-after-the-other hotness underscores for me just how constructed most of the pictures are and how far away that world is from most of us, if not whether that world really exists at all). No, what sucks about that thread is the constant "dude, I would not hit that" or "dude, her ass is too small/large/brown/old" worldplay that thinks it's witty but is just really trite, tired and offensive in its core banality.

It's boring. Picturefest is strange because if you want porn, it's out there, so why bother in here?

I could go on. Lounge threads really become interesting when people bring something to the table. Same with Pol/War threads. Bring something interesting.

People ought to be banned not for language, but for being unrelentingly boring and trite.
     
osiris
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Isle of Manhattan
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 01:26 PM
 
And now, back to our former glory.
Brought to you by Nabisco.
"Faster, faster! 'Till the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." - HST
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 01:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by Timo View Post
This is silly. ghporter's a good guy and beating up on him will not bring back the lounge fun.

As I recall, what was fun about the lounge was the zany energy and creativity of it. Not high holy stands about freedom of speech on the one hand or community standards on the other hand. High, positive energy -- not this finger-pointing.
My apologies.

The Lebowski phase was about just that, though.

Censoring that image above was just *stupid*, in the light of that.

And for the record - I really don't care for or about the Picturefest, either way.
     
boots
Professional Poster
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Unknown
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 02:01 PM
 
^^^ The smack hath been laid down.

What I find interesting is that in American culture, at least, female sex (or the titillation thereof) is fine. When it's male, it is obscene. Women making out with each other is hot, but guys kissing each other is gross. This includes language too. We have socially acceptable (almost) words for female anatomy, but male anatomy is either obscene or clinical (or both, to some).

Not to play the feminist card, but I suspect it has to do with the social power structure. A structure that has only just begun to change in the last 100 or so years.

If Heaven has a dress code, I'm walkin to Hell in my Tony Lamas.
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 02:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by boots View Post
^^^ The smack hath been laid down.

What I find interesting is that in American culture, at least, female sex (or the titillation thereof) is fine. When it's male, it is obscene. Women making out with each other is hot, but guys kissing each other is gross. This includes language too. We have socially acceptable (almost) words for female anatomy, but male anatomy is either obscene or clinical (or both, to some).

Not to play the feminist card, but I suspect it has to do with the social power structure. A structure that has only just begun to change in the last 100 or so years.
A lot of men are hypocrites; they find women intriguing and seeing two women together very attractive, but many men feel threatened by even the suggestion of two men being together. Why, I don't know. I know myself pretty well, and I don't see a problem with other males doing whatever. I may not want to watch, but I don't see a problem with anyone expressing affection publicly (within limits-full blown making out on the street kind of bothers me, no matter who's doing it). And of course the power structure our society grew out of has everything to do with it. I can't think of a single factor in history that isn't at least somewhat influenced by who decides who can have sex with whom. Really, it all boils down to that.

I should also note that plenty of people have complained about the few male pictures posted in the "Hot Babes" thread. Isn't Orlando Bloom recognized as being very attractive? Why should people complain? My thought is that maybe they just don't want to consider the flip side of their fascination with female glamor (or lesser) pictures. You know, equal time and all that...

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
Cold Warrior
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Polwaristan
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 02:17 PM
 
I reported the image because it was inappropriate. It's one thing to have a couple words asterisked-out, but quite another when the entire sentence is inappropriate and vulgar, despite four asterisks to hide a profanity. It is clear and obvious when an entire sentence is out of line, whether it's filled up with asterisks or not. The sentence, despite a missing word, is similar to seeing a hardcore porn picture of it with the genitals covered by a black circle — it doesn't make it appropriate for this community.

That's my take and I am not speaking for anyone else.
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 02:47 PM
 
But nudity, with the areola covered by a tiny black piece of cloth, is apparently appropriate.

Sorry for being a bit of an ass, but your post strikes me as entirely hypocritical.

I'll just drop it here, though, even though you're not a Lounge mod.
     
Cold Warrior
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Polwaristan
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 02:57 PM
 
Call me whatever names you like, but I find nothing hypocritical about differentiating between a vulgar sentence and a bathing suit.
     
boots
Professional Poster
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Unknown
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 03:07 PM
 
Personally, i find a lot of the pictures in the Babefest thread at least as inappropriate as the content of that sig. I like them, mind you, but I find them just as inappropriate. I find it interesting that you get legalistic about what constitutes an appropriate swimsuit (i.e you will follow the letter of the posting rules) but you get offended when someone doesn't break the letter (spirit, sure, but not the letter) of the verbal posting rules.

Justice Potter Stewart nailed it when, in an obscenity case in Ohio, he said
I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.

If Heaven has a dress code, I'm walkin to Hell in my Tony Lamas.
     
besson3c
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: yes
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 03:26 PM
 
Let's not split hairs here about the appropriateness of the image or the corrective action taken...

Our opinions of what are appropriate or inappropriate are subjective, a MacNN mod made a decision based on his subjective opinion(s), which he is entitled to do as a representative on a commercial forum where freedom of speech is not guaranteed.

Are you arguing for the image out of principal or because it is really important that it remain visible?



That being said, my subjective opinion is that the babe forum objectifies woman in an often offensive way.
     
boots
Professional Poster
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Unknown
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 03:29 PM
 
I'm not actually arguing for or against the images. I'm not even dissing on ColdWarrior. (At least that's not the intent.) I just find the different reactions interesting.

If Heaven has a dress code, I'm walkin to Hell in my Tony Lamas.
     
Chuckit
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 03:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
A lot of men are hypocrites; they find women intriguing and seeing two women together very attractive, but many men feel threatened by even the suggestion of two men being together.
I don't think being straight is hypocritical. Personally, there are some people that I really don't want to think about doing the nasty, and I don't feel like a hypocrite for thinking that. I take that view with all unattractive people equally.
Chuck
___
"Instead of either 'multi-talented' or 'multitalented' use 'bisexual'."
     
analogika
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 888500128
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 04:01 PM
 
Very few people actually feel hypocritical when they are being hypocrites.
     
Chuckit
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 04:04 PM
 
They might if they thought about it. Can you explain how standards are being applied inconsistently there?
Chuck
___
"Instead of either 'multi-talented' or 'multitalented' use 'bisexual'."
     
andi*pandi
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: inside 128, north of 90
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 04:34 PM
 
(do not want!)

Anyway.
( Last edited by andi*pandi; Jan 12, 2008 at 05:30 PM. Reason: bah, no one cares.)
     
pooka
Mac Elite
Join Date: May 2001
Location: type 13 planet
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 04:50 PM
 
Hmm. So it sounds like the problem isn't profanity, or nudity, but simply the existence of children participating in this forum. Can't we just ban them?

New, Improved and Legal in 50 States
     
dillerX
Professional Poster
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Pit Slab #35
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 06:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
That's silly. You're doing what the "anti-porn" crusaders do-equating (typically feminine) nudity with sex. Not the same thing at all. It's simply not appropriate for the kind of language in that picture to be in our forums. That's a completely different thing from showing a little skin.
I call bullshit.
I tried to sig-spam the forums.
ADVANTAGE Motorsports Marketing, Inc. • speedXdesign, Inc.
     
dillerX
Professional Poster
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Pit Slab #35
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 06:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by d4nth3m4n View Post
<snip>Inappropriate Image (the picture was fine but the text that's part of it wasn't)<snip>

added by dan-
*NSFW CRUDE LANGUAGE* link to dillz's lebowski sig *NSFW CRUDE LANGUAGE*

and, i'm in on this.
Oh, BTW. Thank you.
I tried to sig-spam the forums.
ADVANTAGE Motorsports Marketing, Inc. • speedXdesign, Inc.
     
Oisín
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Copenhagen
Status: Offline
Jan 12, 2008, 06:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
That's silly. You're doing what the "anti-porn" crusaders do-equating (typically feminine) nudity with sex. Not the same thing at all. It's simply not appropriate for the kind of language in that picture to be in our forums. That's a completely different thing from showing a little skin.
I have to completely and utterly disagree with that. By far the majority of the pictures in the babe thread are not about “showing a little skin”. They’re purposely sexualised images of naked or semi-naked women in overtly pornographic poses.

If the fact that the word in Diller’s signature image that actually went against forum policy was asterisked out was not enough to prevent the sentence as a whole from being inappropriate, then the fact that genitals and nipples are carefully concealed in the babe thread images is certainly not enough from making the images themselves and what they insinuate—no, scratch that: what they scream to high heavens—any less inappropriate.

Personally, I don’t think either of them are inappropriate; but if the line is that ‘coarse language’ is inappropriate for these forums, then I can’t see any justification whatsoever for claiming that pictures that are intentionally pornographic in what they insinuate and evoke are not.
     
 
Thread Tools
 
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:30 AM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2017 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.8 © 2000-2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.,