[shinji]

What was the point of bringing the Apple Store down if they weren't announcing new hardware?

[Jawbone54]

No, nothing fishy.

[Lateralus]

To confuse us.

[shabbasuraj]

Originally Posted by shabbasuraj 

DONE.. stick a fork in it... NO HARDWARE FOR YOU

I mean no hardware for any of us

[starman]

New page is up

[mdc]

Apple.com is busy being updated. The safari download page shows off new brushed metal apple.com tabs.

[goMac]

No Leopard seed for people who did not attend WWDC? I sure hope not. If that's true, way to not make nice with developers Apple.

[shabbasuraj]

downloading it now...

[analogue SPRINKLES]

That's it?!

I feel like someone just ****ed me in the ass and didn't have the courtesy to give me a reach around.

[Dakarʒ]

That's saying something.

[Big Mac]

You know, you would think that a Fortune 500 company could role out site updates a little more smoothly than Apple does.

[ajprice]

Is it just me or is the tab bar on the new black homepage screwed up?

[residentEvil]

no more brushed metal? huh?

they why the brushed metal looking menu bar on the website?

and, on the safari beta for windows too. brushed metal looking to me.

[mdc]

Safari won't run on my computer here at work.
"Runtime Error! cprogram files\safari\safari.exe" and then it crashes.

I've reinstalled it 3 times.

[Lateralus]

First impression of Safari on Windows; They should have held it in for a little while longer. It lacks any polish and it feels very clunk and foreign.

[olePigeon]

Heh. They have the Sheets Dialogs in Safari for Windows.

[shabbasuraj]

Tab dragging in the new beta is actually pretty neat... playing with it right now..

EDIT: slow mo feature of the expanding window still works when holding SHIFT

[shinji]

So there is definitely no chance of new cinema displays being released now if it wasn't mentioned during the keynote?

[seanc]

Liking the new Apple site design

[imitchellg5]

Yay new DVD player and Front Row.
Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Features - Front Row
Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Features - DVD Player

[JonoMarshall]

Glad I didn't get worked up over this:

3D Dock & Stacks = pretty but yawn,
Finder = pretty but yawn,
Safari = good development tactics but yawn,
iPhone = exciting but not available now, yawn,

To summarise... yawn.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by RedStar 

So WebApps for the iphone means I can't use a third party application if I don't have signal?

How am I supposed to play games on the subway?

I am henceforth referring to anything having to do with the "iPhone SDK" in air quotes.

[xi_hyperon]

Cool, I can read these posts, post a reply, and I'll have posted before the posts I read!

I'm feeling a bit chronologically discombobulated.

[ajprice]

Originally Posted by imitchellg5 

Yay new DVD player and Front Row.
Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Features - Front Row
Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Features - DVD Player

Front Row gets the Apple TV menu style then . And Boot Camp will have an Apple Menu item to 'Restart in Windows" and sleep the Mac, so that when you return the OS is how you left it, and vice versa for Windows.

New, faster restarts.
Leopard brings a quicker way to switch between Mac OS X and Windows: Just choose the new Apple menu item “Restart in Windows.” Your Mac goes into “safe sleep” so that when you return, you’ll be right where you were. It’s much faster than restarting the computer each time. Likewise, a “Restart in Mac OS X” menu item in the Boot Camp System Tray in Windows makes for a faster return to Mac OS X. With Windows hibernation enabled, you can pick up where you left off.

[Kerrigan]

I've been using Safari for Win and it's interesting, but it's clearly a beta.

Good:
It's definitely faster than IE, and it seems faster than FF too (as Steve said it was)
Re-sizable text fields.
The interface is much better than IE's new cluttered mess.
New search-in-page feature is nicer than IE for FF.

Bad:
Black text in titlebar doesn't look right with the gray text in the menubar.
The titlebar keeps its rounded corners in full screen mode, it doesn't square-off like it does in iTunes for Windows.
The menus just seem clunky.
The anti-aliasing is blury (I've read that it uses MS Cleartype, but anti-aliasing in IE is clearer)
My scroll-wheel isn't supported.
After using it for 20 minutes, Windows froze up, the cursor wouldn't even move. This has never happened on my computer.
***Settings and cookies are re-set every time I close and then relaunch Safari. This is really annoying, and makes the beta UNUSABLE at this point.

[Dakarʒ]

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ 

Paging Jawbone, Jawbone to the thread please.

The servers is teh screwed up.

[seanc]

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ 

The servers is teh screwed up.

I got an email notification for that post, but i don't see it anywhere...

I predict a MacNN database meltdown.

[RedStar]

So WebApps for the iphone means I can't use a third party application if I don't have signal?

How am I supposed to play games on the subway?

[awaspaas]

Originally Posted by shinji 

So there is definitely no chance of new cinema displays being released now if it wasn't mentioned during the keynote?

You're right. The cinema displays will NEVER be updated.

EVER.

/furious

[Lava Lamp Freak]

Originally Posted by RedStar 

So WebApps for the iphone means I can't use a third party application if I don't have signal?

How am I supposed to play games on the subway?

My take is that it is something you download, like a widget. So, once you download the third party app, it exists locally on the iPhone.

[analogika]

Dayjah VOO!

[analogika]

Originally Posted by residentEvil 

no more brushed metal? huh?

they why the brushed metal looking menu bar on the website?

and, on the safari beta for windows too. brushed metal looking to me.

That is NOT brushed metal.

Look at iTunes - that's what the new interface in Leopard will align towards.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by ajprice 

New, faster restarts.
Leopard brings a quicker way to switch between Mac OS X and Windows: Just choose the new Apple menu item “Restart in Windows.” Your Mac goes into “safe sleep” so that when you return, you’ll be right where you were. It’s much faster than restarting the computer each time. Likewise, a “Restart in Mac OS X” menu item in the Boot Camp System Tray in Windows makes for a faster return to Mac OS X. With Windows hibernation enabled, you can pick up where you left off.

Nifty!

[Kerrigan]

Testing to see if this thread is working now...

edit- sweet, at last

[Andy8]

Boom

[::maroma::]

vBulletin ate my post.

I bet vBulletin is gonna be constipated tonight.

[BlueSky]

In Safari 3, a page no longer reloads to the same position on the page, defaults to the top of the page. I can see this becoming a major pain.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by BlueSky 

In Safari 3, a page no longer reloads to the same position on the page, defaults to the top of the page. I can see this becoming a major pain.

I usually get impatient and start scrolling down before it does it automatically anyways.

BTW, what was that about earlier, Dakar? The Ballmer picture?

[BlueSky]

test

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by shinji 

What was the point of bringing the Apple Store down if they weren't announcing new hardware?

Steve is a cock tease.

[Super Mario]

When 10.0 came out Apple showed the world how to do transparency wrong.

When 10.5 comes out the menu bar Apple will show the world how to do transparency wrong.

Hint: Blur the fricken background underneath so I can read the text.

Hint #2. Why the frick are the drop down menus still classic Aqua if the menu bar is transparent?

I'm going to have to hack that sh!t to make it look sensible.

[Tesseract]

Originally Posted by shinji 

What was the point of bringing the Apple Store down if they weren't announcing new hardware?

Probably to apply the new metallic look...

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by residentEvil 

no more brushed metal? huh?

they why the brushed metal looking menu bar on the website?

Look closer — no texture on the "metal" bar. It's dark unified, not brushed metal.

[Atomic Rooster]

The "NEW" Stevieo.

[nerd]

Keynote is up. I wish it was on iTunes so I can watch it on my ATV.

Apple - Mac - QuickTime - WWDC 2007 Keynote

[MacosNerd]

Originally Posted by Super Mario 

Hint #2. Why the frick are the drop down menus still classic Aqua if the menu bar is transparent?

Maybe because Leopard is still in BETA

[Super Mario]

Originally Posted by MacosNerd 

Maybe because Leopard is still in BETA

Gonna hold you to that when Leopard comes out, noobie.

[shifuimam]

Does anyone else see a little too many correlations between Vista and the new Leopard look than is really comfortable?

A grass wallpaper - wtf
Transparent menu bar - wtf.

I'm sorry, but that's the first thing I thought when I saw it. Maybe I'm just being cyncial, but the new Leopard look really isn't that spectacular. It's pretty, 3D eye candy. That doesn't mean it's better. The new Unified darker look is a little less cheezy compared to Brushed Metal, but I still use Theme Changer to change how OS X looks anyhow. But it does look nicer.

The stacks thing...it's like bringing disorganization from your actual desktop to your computer desktop. You know what the island in my apartment's kitchen has on it? Stacks. Of paper. Pictures, mail, uncashed checks, old receipts, empty envelopes, shipping invoices...you name it, and it's probably in a stack on my island. Once in awhile, I make myself file everything away into folders in my filing crate. Making folders in an OS is a heck of a lot easier than anything IRL - just right-click, hit New Folder, and off you go. Why move backwards into throwing all my files into what is essentially piles 'o crap on my desktop or in the dock? That's even worse than what I do now, which is throw everything that's accumulated on my desktop after a few months into a "Desktop Stuff" file folder on my desktop.

The Parental Controls stuff definitely looks nice. I don't really know what Vista does in this area, but it's definitely nice. I have some friends who would like this feature on their machine. I wonder how its website blocking lists will work - can you select categories like with Websense, or what?

The new Finder is...*gasp*...still sucky.

You seriously think that with 500GB+ of hard drive space and hundreds of thousands of files, people want a file browser that has a pseudo-treeview that looks like iTunes? I don't even like iTunes' interface - it's too basic for me. Regardless, until someone comes out with a database-driven operating system that allows categorizing files into any treeview imaginable (by attributes), give me a flipping tree view of my hard drive directory structure. "Columns" view just doesn't cut it anymore.

But, hey - they added coverflow. Which they didn't even come up with in the first place. I'm hoping they implemented it in a way that doesn't suck RAM or video RAM terribly - or CPU/GPU power - terribly.

And if Apple does make a data-driven pseudofilesystem, there's no way you can stick to something as simple as iTunes. iTunes only sorts by a few categories - Artist, Album, and Genre, right? You're going to have waaay more than three categories for every file on your OS. I'm just sayin' you're going to need something a little more complex.

Spaces - it's still virtual desktops from X-Windows but with a pretty facade. Time machine - it's a good idea (that can already be done in Windows), but I'm curious to see how much hard drive space is going to be sucked up by people who don't manage the file versions that are stored because of it.

So. I'm disappointed in what Apple has offered. They still can't seem to come up with a decent file manager/browser. They've given me a grassy wallpaper that is actually vaguely reminiscent of Vista (although I actually like the green of Vista's grassy wallpaper more - this one is too in-your-face). They've added more visual eye candy to the GUI and the dock. It's like a Playboy Playmate - lots of sex on the outside, lots of sawdust on the inside.

The ability to switch quickly between Windows and OS X is definitely cool. It'd be nice to do that on any dual-boot machine. But, again - how much storage space will that eat? Will the OS in hibernation suck RAM? Sooo we'll see.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

The desktop isn't dead like I was hoping, you can still save files to it.

[nerd]

I just hope you can turn off the transparency on the menu bar. I don't care for it, I don't think Menu Meters, etc. will look good on it that way. The finder doesn't appear to be too different if you turn off the cover flow thing. I personally won't run with it that way.