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conny · Jun 27, 2003, 06:39 PM

Now we all know how Panther looks like and we have debated it for a couple of days. I think it looks very promising.
But what I'm even more interested in is all the little technical details that come up during the developer sessions. New APIs, anecdotes, performance improvements, future directions. Does anyone have any info to share from the sessions? Or does anyone know any blogs or articles from any developers that have been at WWDC?
I know this information is under NDA but that didn't stop Panther from getting out to the public.
I have heard things like Cocoa UI API being something totally new, how to programatically build a UI in Cocoa, not thru Interface Builder. I would like to know when (if) Apple is planning to relase a Advanced Video Codec (H.264) for mpeg4. There is some new SearchKit API, hopefully the same used for the new finder search.
Let's spill those beans...

The DJ · Jun 27, 2003, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by conny:
But what I'm even more interested in is all the little technical details that come up during the developer sessions. New APIs, anecdotes, performance improvements, future directions.

Yes, i was wondering the same thing actually.
I want some tech details

conny · Jun 27, 2003, 07:45 PM

Here are some blogs from WWDC, doesn't give you much but some hints. Everyone is really hard on their NDA. Which I guess is good...

http://www.atomicbird.com/blog/
http://inessential.com/
http://www.scifihifi.com/weblog/wwdc2003
http://weblog.karelia.com/MacOSX
http://www.macnytt.com/diaries/index.lasso?rand=1532 (In swedish)

tikki · Jun 28, 2003, 11:00 AM

I really don't understand the purpose of the NDA to WWDC attendees. a) Developer tools are a free product b) We will all have them in short time

JLL · Jun 28, 2003, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by tikki:
I really don't understand the purpose of the NDA to WWDC attendees. a) Developer tools are a free product b) We will all have them in short time

The don't just talk about the developer tools.

starman · Jun 28, 2003, 11:56 AM

Are there any decent pics of the Apple Bash anywhere? My friend said that I'd not be allowed to take a camera in, only to see EVERYONE brought their camera

Mike

Angus_D · Jun 28, 2003, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by tikki:
I really don't understand the purpose of the NDA to WWDC attendees. a) Developer tools are a free product b) We will all have them in short time

They are trying to make it a forward-looking conference with information about where Mac OS X is headed.

tikki · Jun 28, 2003, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Angus_D:
They are trying to make it a forward-looking conference with information about where Mac OS X is headed.

It may be a forward looking conference, but I don't see what hte big difference is b/w spilling the beans on Panther (a forward looking OS) and Cocoa updates (a forward looking renovation to development stuff)

jguidroz · Jun 28, 2003, 07:11 PM

I got to listen to a couple of sessions for a few minutes through ichat, but the airport network has been bogged down and didn't seem to work all that well (at least the B network) when in the conference rooms. I should have news later on tonight when the guy gets back from WWDC.

Michel Fortin · Jun 28, 2003, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by tikki:
It may be a forward looking conference, but I don't see what hte big difference is b/w spilling the beans on Panther (a forward looking OS) and Cocoa updates (a forward looking renovation to development stuff)

Maybe if all this information was public they would get less attendees...

tikki · Jun 28, 2003, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Michel Fortin:
Maybe if all this information was public they would get less attendees...

good point, but there are still more sessions than the Cocoa State of the Union.

hamiltondj · Jun 28, 2003, 11:09 PM

I was at wwdc and I can tell you 2 things:

(1) wwdc is supposed to give developers an idea of both whats up for panther and what the direction will be beyond panther.

(2) Nobody (including myself) wants to break their NDA. It would be tough for me to distinguish what can be made public and what cannot. Thus, to be on the safe side, I decided to defer comments I make to the very general.

That being said, from what I have been able to see on the web, alot of information from wwdc has made it out through various sources. What's missing is nitty gritty details and, probably more importantly, description of the "forward thinking" statements.

All in all it was an excellent conference and I'm very encouraged. Its going to be an exciting time in the apple world over the next few months and years.

jetta_gt · Jun 29, 2003, 12:01 AM

starman,

i brought my camera and made a 360 VR movie, it's pretty awesome, but as dumb as it sounds i probably won't post it anywhere, I am REALLY paranoid about my NDA, and wish to return to WWDC on scholarship next year...

jetta_gt

Catfish_Man · Jun 29, 2003, 05:09 PM

OK, I realize this is probably under NDA, but can anyone tell me anything about NSController? I've gotten little hints about it and it's driving me berserk not knowing what it does. If no one is allowed answer, that's ok.

smeger · Jun 29, 2003, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Catfish_Man:
OK, I realize this is probably under NDA, but can anyone tell me anything about NSController? I've gotten little hints about it and it's driving me berserk not knowing what it does. If no one is allowed answer, that's ok.

I didn't go to WWDC and I'm not under NDA, so I can answer freely (but I don't know much). It seems that NSController is the rebirth of a sort of generic controller class that was in WebObjects. It automates a lot of the glue code that one needs to write in a controller class, saving you a lot of tediousness.

People seem really excited about it, so there's probably a bit more than just this.

tikki · Jun 29, 2003, 08:30 PM

I am excited, and want some documentation. I didn't see any new documentation anywhere on ADC.

wadesworld · Jun 29, 2003, 10:44 PM

You too can learn everything that goes on at WWDC.

Simply pay $500 a year for a select membership, and $1,500 or so for the DVD set.

Why so much? Because if they gave the info away cheaply, nobody would show up at WWDC, and they'd have wasted millions.

Wade

starman · Jun 30, 2003, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by tikki:
I am excited, and want some documentation. I didn't see any new documentation anywhere on ADC.

There's a ton of documentation and sample code for seed users. What kind of account do you have? Free/Select/Premiere?

Mike

tikki · Jun 30, 2003, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by starman:
There's a ton of documentation and sample code for seed users. What kind of account do you have? Free/Select/Premiere?

Mike

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