Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Community > MacNN Lounge > was the internet designed to spread the english lauguage?

was the internet designed to spread the english lauguage?
Thread Tools
mixin visuals
Mac Elite
Join Date: Apr 2003
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 15, 2003, 11:03 PM
 
could it be that the internet will be the first step to the whole world knowing english? everything in url's is english right? i have never seen a chinese set-up computer, and see what the url's look like, but they have to be english right?

i am sure there are tons of examples where people speaking other languages have to know english to do simple internet tasks.

am i wrong?
Technology, Computing & Creativity - www.clubmedia.com

Overflowing with Design Links - www.mixinvisuals.com

VW Sites.com - Links to the Volkswagen World - www.vwsites.com
     
Nicko
Professional Poster
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cairo
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 15, 2003, 11:14 PM
 
What you mean you don't read all those millions of pages that are in other languages?

You really should think before you type.
     
nonhuman
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Baltimore, MD
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 15, 2003, 11:20 PM
 
All urls aren't in English, try going to www.kniga.com. Kniga is a romanization of the Russian "книга". All urls the Roman alphabet which, I believe, is used by more languages than any other writing system, and so is a good candidate for a system to be used in an international forum such as the internet because most people (even if their first language doesn't use the Roman alphabet) are familiar with it.
     
mixin visuals  (op)
Mac Elite
Join Date: Apr 2003
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 15, 2003, 11:31 PM
 
Originally posted by Nicko:
What you mean you don't read all those millions of pages that are in other languages?

You really should think before you type.
spoken like a true tard. who said anything about web pages? i expect nothing less from you.
Technology, Computing & Creativity - www.clubmedia.com

Overflowing with Design Links - www.mixinvisuals.com

VW Sites.com - Links to the Volkswagen World - www.vwsites.com
     
jckalen
Senior User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: out of service area
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 15, 2003, 11:41 PM
 
What you mean you don't read all those millions of pages that are in other languages?

You really should think before you type.
try searching "China" in google. You will see the descriptions in chinese text but the URL's are in english. Try china.com Then try howdoigetmyfootoutofmymouthdotcom
It looks just like a telefunken' U-47 - Zappa
     
jckalen
Senior User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: out of service area
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 15, 2003, 11:46 PM
 
All urls aren't in English, try going to www.kniga.com.
ummm, that looks like it's using the english alphabet to me.

He means you won't see ???
?????.com (if that came up clickable, don't - it ain't a link)

edit: the ??? were supposed to be chinese text - it didn't work apparently
It looks just like a telefunken' U-47 - Zappa
     
nonhuman
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Baltimore, MD
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 15, 2003, 11:56 PM
 
Originally posted by jckalen:
ummm, that looks like it's using the english alphabet to me.

He means you won't see ???
?????.com (if that came up clickable, don't - it ain't a link)

edit: the ??? were supposed to be chinese text - it didn't work apparently
Try reading my post. That isn't the English alphabet, it is the Roman alphabet, it is used by a metric buttload of languages. You're right, you won't see 饺�_�.com, you will see jiaozi.com (no, that one's not a real webpage...). 'jiaozi' like 'kniga' is not an English word. And what about other languages that use the same alphabet? Is www.louvre.com in English? No, it's in French, French uses the same alphabet we do.
     
Moderator
Mac Elite
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: NYNY
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 12:55 AM
 
     
Swiss Bob
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Staffordshire, England
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 06:53 AM
 
Originally posted by mixin visuals:
could it be that the internet will be the first step to the whole world knowing english?
Hmmm...
Not sure if you could class it as "English". "American" maybe; "English", no.

(do web browsers respond to a "CENTRE" or a "COLOUR" command?)

     
DeathMan
Mac Elite
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Capitol City
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 07:02 AM
 
This thead should be locked.
     
Diggory Laycock
Professional Poster
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: London
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 07:02 AM
 
IP4 URLs have to be in Roman.

I believe that IP 6 has unicode domains.

http://www.i-d-n.net/

http://www.unicodedn.com/
     
schep
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: sc aka hell
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 07:17 AM
 
you know abcd............ alphabet isn't english its used by many other languages and simply because you romanize a word doesn't me you translate it in to english
     
Face Ache
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jul 2001
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 07:47 AM
 
Originally posted by mixin visuals:
was the internet designed to spread the english lauguage?
Probably not.
     
sambeau
Mac Elite
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 07:47 AM
 
The internet was designed to survive a nuclear war - that's about all.

The rest has been a glorious accident.
     
maxintosh
Mac Elite
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York, NY
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 08:21 AM
 
Umm, you realize how many freakin languages use the Roman character set, right??
     
sambeau
Mac Elite
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 08:34 AM
 
Originally posted by maxintosh:
Umm, you realize how many freakin languages use the Roman character set, right??
yeah. but how many of them can get away with just the basic ascii set?

not many I would wager..
     
xtal
Senior User
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 09:33 AM
 
Originally posted by mixin visuals:
was the internet designed to spread the english lauguage?
Considering the amount of moth-eaten drivel that people pass off as 'English' on the internet, I'm fairly sure that there is no danger of the above happening.

I can be a grammar/spelling sometimes.


To choose doubt as a philosophy of life is akin to choosing immobility as a means of transportation.
     
Lerkfish
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2001
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 09:53 AM
 
Originally posted by mixin visuals:
spoken like a true tard. who said anything about web pages? i expect nothing less from you.
not sure you realize you've structured that last sentence to mean the opposite of what I think you were attempting to convey.
     
davesimondotcom
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Landlockinated
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
May 16, 2003, 10:23 AM
 
Yes, it was designed to spread english! And they would have gotten away with it if it weren't for that meddling BabelFish!
[ sig removed - image host changed it to a big ad picture ]
     
   
 
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:57 AM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2017 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.8 © 2000-2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.,