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Panther on new 2.0G iMac
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Will C
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Jun 23, 2005, 08:46 AM
 
Quick question - if I get a new iMac, is it possible to install Panther (I have a legal copy) on it rather than the supplied Tiger or is this disabled in the ROM?

(I know many will ask why, but lets's just say I don't want Tiger just yet)

TIA
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Jun 23, 2005, 12:17 PM
 
I booted my Revision B iMac from a clone of my Panther Install on my eMac,
and the fans ran full-blast the whole time. I'm pretty sure someone else wrote
about having a similar experience as well.
     
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Jun 25, 2005, 01:29 AM
 
Yes, it works, but the fans are not supported, so they just run in vacuum cleaner mode.

Apple also officially states that they will not support a 20" iMac running Panther. In fact, in my blog I quoted a little blurb direct from Steve Jobs, saying that the iMac 2.0 will never (fully) support Panther.
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Will C  (op)
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Jun 25, 2005, 04:18 AM
 
Thanks Dave and Eug, looks like I'll hold off for a bit until some of the (important to me) Tiger bugs are ironed out.
     
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Jun 26, 2005, 08:27 PM
 
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Jun 26, 2005, 09:52 PM
 
Do we have a few Tiger-regrets out there? I thought I was the only one who didn't think the upgrade was worth it.

Although, since these machines SHIP with Tiger, it's sad to see people who want to downgrade. I wonder why? Could it be Tiger's many incompatibilities with thrid-party software?

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Jun 26, 2005, 11:38 PM
 
Tiger rocks... for most individuals (including myself).

However, switching OSes can be a major pain for lots of businesses. Let's say you are an IT manager that manages 100 Macs. Every piece of software (say 15 apps) on those Panther Macs works perfectly, and all of your users are able to be productive on Panther.

Along comes the new iMac 2.0, which is perfect price-wise and hardware-wise for 10 new employees. Do you really want to go thru the testing process again on Tiger for all 15 apps, as well as everything else? And what happens if 1 of those apps does have a glitch in Tiger?

It would be a lot easier for the IT manager to simply buy a Mac and put Panther on it, but you can't do that with the new iMac. (You can do that with the new Power Macs, but Power Macs are hardly the same thing.)
     
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Jun 27, 2005, 04:06 AM
 
You have to switch OS's at some point though. The sooner the better I'd say. I understand there can be problems for businesses that have got everything set up and working properly, but personally I'd sacrifice the odd glitch and incompatibility to have the latest software advances any day (as long as there was no singular, major, critical incompatibility to my business of course).

I upgraded on day one of Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger, and I have had absolutely zero regrets. Tiger has brought some wonderful things to Mac OSX for me. Some annoying bugs are gone, a lot of small but useful features have been added, and things like Automator are simply life-changing when you get used to using them. Yes, I lost the use of a couple of apps in th process of upgrading, but they have all since been updated or superceded.

Anyway, Will did say he didn't want this kind of discussion. I'll leave it there. ;-)
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Jun 27, 2005, 10:03 AM
 
Originally Posted by Ozzpot
You have to switch OS's at some point though.
No you don't, at least not to Tiger. Just because Apple releases an OS doesn't mean you have to install it.

It would make perfect sense for a business to standardize on Panther, and then switch to Lion once it's stable, skipping Tiger entirely.

Except Apple doesn't allow this, if you plan on buying new hardware.
     
   
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