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jon l. dawson · Apr 28, 2005, 03:41 AM

I found one! my very own bug!! confirmed it against Panther 10.3.9.
go to Sys prefs, accounts, change your account's real name. Exit prefs. Name updates in FUS corner but not in Apple menu ("Log out [real name]..")

my opinion thus far, I am still really excited about this release, I think it's excellent. None of the bugs are show stoppers to me, hope it stays that way.

Gee4orce · Apr 28, 2005, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by mAxximo

Crap. I restarted one thousand times and it's still taking 7-10 seconds to display the @#$%^ contextual menu. It's almost instant if I just select one item. If it's two or more it starts to lag accordingly. Grrrrrr.

You might have a contextual menu plug-in that's not Tiger-compatible....

Jernberg · Apr 28, 2005, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by jon l. dawson

This you are suggesting is a Tiger bug? I'm confused too, you haven't clearly said what circumstances it does work under, and if whether or not you've ruled out the hardware or media because that's what it sounds like. You did a fresh install of what, Tiger, on your second hard drive? What about if you replace it with Panther, how does it work then?

� The disc gets stuck ONLY AFTER the screen energy saver has been activated (I've set this to happen after 15 mins idle time). When I activate the screen after idle time, the disc is stuck (due to a stuck process; /sbin/ umount/(media name). The process cannot be killed either, not even with the sudo command.

� Ejecting media (of any kind) works fine otherwise. If I set the Screen Energy Saver to "Never", my discs will probably never lock-up, and I will be able to reboot and shut down my system. BUT, since I have a Cinema Display with no separate power button (I need my computer to be on 24/7, but not my screen!) this is no valid option for me. I don't want an insomniac display�

This problem was not in Panther, not in Jaguar, and not in OS 9. It is not the reader, and not the media.

/Jernberg

johnt519 · Apr 28, 2005, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by johnt519

Print to PDF is back now. I quit and relaunched Safari and all is good.

I'm still seeing those warnings though. I am able to print, but the delay in opening the Print dialog sheet is a bit unnerving...

I was able to get rid of those messages. Seems there a new CUPS configuration file, but it doesn't look like it replaced the existing one. This is what I did (in Terminal):

cd /etc/cups
sudo mv cupsd.conf cupsd.conf.mybackup
sudo cp cupsd.conf.default cupsd.conf

ps -ax | grep cups -- note the process number:
155 ?? Ss 0:02.23 /usr/sbin/cupsd

sudo kill -HUP 155 (restart the CUPS system)

Now choosing print almost instantly drops the sheet down and there isn't an error generated.

hellmachine · Apr 28, 2005, 09:11 AM

hi, i know this "bug". are you shure it's not a problem with your third party drive? i have the same problem with my nec 2500 drive. even in panther. so for me it's not a tiger problem. after i keep a cd/dvd in the drive for some time and the monitor goes to sleep or the screensaver starts, i can�t eject the media. typically i even have to restart because one application after the othewr dies starting with the finder.

Originally Posted by Jernberg

� The disc gets stuck ONLY AFTER the screen energy saver has been activated (I've set this to happen after 15 mins idle time). When I activate the screen after idle time, the disc is stuck (due to a stuck process; /sbin/ umount/(media name). The process cannot be killed either, not even with the sudo command.

� Ejecting media (of any kind) works fine otherwise. If I set the Screen Energy Saver to "Never", my discs will probably never lock-up, and I will be able to reboot and shut down my system. BUT, since I have a Cinema Display with no separate power button (I need my computer to be on 24/7, but not my screen!) this is no valid option for me. I don't want an insomniac display�

This problem was not in Panther, not in Jaguar, and not in OS 9. It is not the reader, and not the media.

/Jernberg

mAxximo · Apr 28, 2005, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Gee4orce

You might have a contextual menu plug-in that's not Tiger-compatible....

The only third party that I installed in Tiger is Default Folder X (which by he way works better than ever). I tried deactivating it and restarting but got the same 7-10 second lag when selecting more than one file...
Am I really the only one seeing this???

SMacTech · Apr 28, 2005, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by mAxximo

The only third party that I installed in Tiger is Default Folder X (which by he way works better than ever). I tried deactivating it and restarting but got the same 7-10 second lag when selecting more than one file...
Am I really the only one seeing this???

I didn't even know of this feature and I selected a folder with 600 5mp jpgs in it, select all, right clicked, selected slide show and it instantly comes up on a mdd 867. No lag, no beachball, just the slide show. Cool feature.

analogika · Apr 28, 2005, 11:18 AM

400 MHz G3 iMac DV here.

Selected 99 jpegs in a folder

NO lag at all on the context menu; slideshow starts instantly.

Repeated on a different folder - same thing.

color me ****ing impressed.

I concur that mAxximo probably has some weird contextual menu plug-in installed that's causing problems.

analogika · Apr 28, 2005, 11:21 AM

P.S.: selecting all those images and just grabbing them with the mouse and dragging them around is *instant* - no lag, no nothing. Again, on a 400MHz G3.

I believe that's another MAJOR Finder gripe finally fixed.

Jernberg · Apr 28, 2005, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by hellmachine

hi, i know this "bug". are you shure it's not a problem with your third party drive? i have the same problem with my nec 2500 drive. even in panther. so for me it's not a tiger problem. after i keep a cd/dvd in the drive for some time and the monitor goes to sleep or the screensaver starts, i can�t eject the media. typically i even have to restart because one application after the othewr dies starting with the finder.

Well, that's odd because: It's no "third party" drive as such. It's the drive that came with the G5, a Pioneer DVR 106. And, the lock-up doesn't occur if only the screen saver has been started, only after monitor energy save.
Also, it worked fine in Panther and previous system versions.

I'm filing a case @ Apple Bugreport�

mAxximo · Apr 28, 2005, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

400 MHz G3 iMac DV here.

Selected 99 jpegs in a folder

NO lag at all on the context menu; slideshow starts instantly.

Repeated on a different folder - same thing.

color me ****ing impressed.

I concur that mAxximo probably has some weird contextual menu plug-in installed that's causing problems.

The only other thing I have installed apart form Default Folder X is Stuffit 9.0. The rest is a fresh install on a disk partition that didn't have OS X in it. So it's as clean as it gets.
Are any of you running Tiger from a partition?

hellmachine · Apr 28, 2005, 11:55 AM

yes like with mine in panther. its still in tiger. but i thought its because of my nec burner. before this burner i never had this effect...

Originally Posted by Jernberg

monitor energy save.
I'm filing a case @ Apple Bugreport�

zerostar · Apr 28, 2005, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by mAxximo

The only other thing I have installed apart form Default Folder X is Stuffit 9.0. The rest is a fresh install on a disk partition that didn't have OS X in it. So it's as clean as it gets.
Are any of you running Tiger from a partition?

Is your system done indexing all drives?

mAxximo · Apr 28, 2005, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by zerostar

Is your system done indexing all drives?

Tiger won't index other partitions, just the one the system is in. As unbelievable as it sounds.
Anyway, all my photos are in the Tiger partition so yes, they are all indexed.

hellmachine · Apr 28, 2005, 12:12 PM

i can confirm that. on my internal drive, only one partition got indexed. but it indexed the external three firewire drives fine. this would be no problem, if you have some option to manually select and idex drives.

Originally Posted by mAxximo

Tiger won't index other partitions, just the one the system is in. As unbelievable as it sounds.
Anyway, all my photos are in the Tiger partition so yes, they are all indexed.

OreoCookie · Apr 28, 2005, 12:28 PM

You can be sure whether or not Spotlight indexes a certain drive if you open the Terminal as admin and type.
sudo -s ENTER
--> enter the admin's (!) password
mdutil -s /Volumes/[name of volume] ENTER

To enable or disable indexing manually, enter

mdutil -i on /Volume/[name of volume]

(Obviously, replace on with off if you want to disable indexing.) You can double-check by entering mdutil -s /Volume/[name of volume]

mAxximo · Apr 28, 2005, 12:32 PM

Good, at least there's a way of doing it...
How hard would have been to put it in System Preferences > Spotlight.
10.4.1 perhaps?

Orphu · Apr 28, 2005, 12:47 PM

..is that I dont get the ripple effect when i drop a widget from the bar into the widget area...

*Sigh - some things huh!*

Why is this though..? Am i missing something...I must see this ripple effect on my machine or I will switch back to Xp (**ha ha ha ha yeah right **)

Everything else is fine and cranking along

analogika · Apr 28, 2005, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Orphu

..is that I dont get the ripple effect when i drop a widget from the bar into the widget area...

*Sigh - some things huh!*

Why is this though..? Am i missing something...I must see this ripple effect on my machine or I will switch back to Xp (**ha ha ha ha yeah right **)

Everything else is fine and cranking along

Your graphics card doesn't support whatever-the-particular-service-that-offers-that-particular-animation-is, so it doesn't show up.

That's the thing about all this eye-candy: it's either free (in terms of CPU power), or it won't show up at all.

OreoCookie · Apr 28, 2005, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by mAxximo

Good, at least there's a way of doing it...
How hard would have been to put it in System Preferences > Spotlight.
10.4.1 perhaps?

Well, the partitions on my second machine (PowerBook) are indexed. So, do you have an OS installed on the other partitions? Maybe it switches it off if you have an OS on the other partitions ...

mAxximo · Apr 28, 2005, 01:38 PM

Yes, I have Panther in the other partition...

Nerozwei · Apr 28, 2005, 02:33 PM

FCUK! Finder crashes on me everytime I try to access a volume on my external Firewire drive. Damn it! Safari scrolling is faster, though... Me like.

OreoCookie · Apr 28, 2005, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by mAxximo

Yes, I have Panther in the other partition...

My guess is that it doesn't index partitions which contain another OS which is quite sensible. It's your favorite thing to blame, permissions, I would suppose.

If you would index all files, you could index files that actually belong to someone else -- say a private letter of your partner or whatever. So rather than indexing things OS X is not sure that it's actually yours, it probably won't touch it. (Note: this is a bizarre mixture of educated guesses and conjectures.)

alephOne · Apr 28, 2005, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

Your graphics card doesn't support whatever-the-particular-service-that-offers-that-particular-animation-is, so it doesn't show up.

That's the thing about all this eye-candy: it's either free (in terms of CPU power), or it won't show up at all.

CoreImage.

sweatervest · Apr 28, 2005, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

My guess is that it doesn't index partitions which contain another OS which is quite sensible. It's your favorite thing to blame, permissions, I would suppose.

If you would index all files, you could index files that actually belong to someone else -- say a private letter of your partner or whatever. So rather than indexing things OS X is not sure that it's actually yours, it probably won't touch it. (Note: this is a bizarre mixture of educated guesses and conjectures.)

Ok, this may have been covered, but does it index partitions (on your main hard drive) that have no OS, just files? If not, I suppose I can just index in the terminal, yes? Thanks

mitchell_pgh · Apr 28, 2005, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

it's not crashy buggy, but it's buggy allright.

Best quote EVER!

analogika · Apr 28, 2005, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by sweatervest

Ok, this may have been covered, but does it index partitions (on your main hard drive) that have no OS, just files?

According to Oreo's post five above yours, yes.

mitchell_pgh · Apr 28, 2005, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

P.S.: selecting all those images and just grabbing them with the mouse and dragging them around is *instant* - no lag, no nothing. Again, on a 400MHz G3.

I believe that's another MAJOR Finder gripe finally fixed.

That's awesome! I have archives of client images in a single folder and selecting them all is CRAZY. 7/10 times I have an issue of MAJOR lag in 10.3

Can't wait to get home! Clean install on a faster HD.

OreoCookie · Apr 28, 2005, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by sweatervest

Ok, this may have been covered, but does it index partitions (on your main hard drive) that have no OS, just files? If not, I suppose I can just index in the terminal, yes? Thanks

It did so on my secondary machine (PowerBook). My primary machine has only one partition. But indexing was even enabled on my FireWire drive.

xmacintosh · Apr 28, 2005, 05:47 PM

I have a Dock bug: right click on icon, select an option in menu, for example "Show in finder" - the icon stays magnified....

hellmachine · Apr 28, 2005, 05:51 PM

no, i don't...

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

Well, the partitions on my second machine (PowerBook) are indexed. So, do you have an OS installed on the other partitions? Maybe it switches it off if you have an OS on the other partitions ...

malique · Apr 28, 2005, 06:05 PM

Icon doesn't stay magnified for me �

but I have another one: in QT 7 (at least with .avis) sometimes sound drops for several seconds. It is not the file itself. By going back 10 secs and playing again it's all fine. Whenever the sound fails, pause and de-pause brings it back.

Even more: I LOVE the jump-10-secs-feature of VLC. Now that QT has a nice ffwd and rewind interface: what the hell am I supposed to do with it? It forwards nothing. Crap.

Smooth window size changes NOT with MPEGS, just .avis and such. Lame.

analogika · Apr 28, 2005, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

That's awesome! I have archives of client images in a single folder and selecting them all is CRAZY. 7/10 times I have an issue of MAJOR lag in 10.3

Can't wait to get home! Clean install on a faster HD.

Actually, I just tried again with a window in list view, all sub-folders opened, for a total of 160 items, and there was a definite lag - about a 1/4 second or so.

On my 400 MHz G3.

spectreman · 08:01 PM

I can't send mail in Mail.app... anyone else having this problem?

Disregard... I fixed it.

Eug Wanker · Apr 28, 2005, 07:40 PM

1) Sometimes when you minimize a QT movie to the dock, it resets playback, and when you re-maximize again, it resets again.

2) Folder information is sometimes not updated correctly on the desktop, or in the Finder's icon view. I had 25 items in this folder, and then added one item, but the added item did not register consistently:

Even closing the Finder windows and re-opening them didn't help. I had to log out and then log back in to get it to display the right number of items.

SMacTech · Apr 28, 2005, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by mAxximo

Tiger won't index other partitions, just the one the system is in. As unbelievable as it sounds.
Anyway, all my photos are in the Tiger partition so yes, they are all indexed.

This is not true. All 5 of my partitions were indexed. And if it were true, why would they include the ability to remove a disk in the privacy tab from spotlight indexing?

Chris Grande · Apr 28, 2005, 08:56 PM

I have a strange color issue, in som places the colors seem a little to 'vibrant'. Forexaple the green between NewsFire and iChat, Newsfires is much greener, along with the stock widget green and red and the delete button in Mail... very strange

I did a upgrade.

Fonzie · Apr 29, 2005, 01:46 AM

I just noticed this morning after I had installed CocoAspell and restarted that my screen would remain dimmed. I don't know if this is related to CocoAspell or something different.

And also I noticed that Mail (if in the login items and set to hide) does not hide itself but remain open.

BTW. in the International(Formats)preferences; if I set the time seperators to colon then it does not work. I still get the dot as a seperator in the menubar.

cc_foo · Apr 29, 2005, 01:57 AM

Dear everyone,

I think I got a performance hit in iPhoto '05 when I first installed it, although I'm not sure. The features do make up for it.

After an archive and install of Tiger, iPhoto '05 5.0.2 became slower. I mean glacially slow.

I deleted the iPhoto application and reinstalled/reupdated to 5.0.2. Now, it's back to the speed it was prior to Tiger.

powerbook911 · Apr 29, 2005, 02:31 AM

Microsoft Word takes forever to start on my machine, after Tiger.

Simon · Apr 29, 2005, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by powerbook911

Microsoft Word takes forever to start on my machine, after Tiger.

Which one? Office X or 2004?

iDriveX · Apr 29, 2005, 04:58 AM

Everytime I unplug my PowerBook G4 12" Alum, 867 Mhz. the brightness on the screen is reduced by 3 notches. I have set custom power settings for no energy saving measures when i unplug, but it still does this.

Orphu · Apr 29, 2005, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

Your graphics card doesn't support whatever-the-particular-service-that-offers-that-particular-animation-is, so it doesn't show up.

That's the thing about all this eye-candy: it's either free (in terms of CPU power), or it won't show up at all.

Yeah thought so...cheers for the reply...

mmurray · Apr 29, 2005, 08:05 AM

Has anyone else got a horizontal grey line through the menu bar at the top of the screen. Its one single line about 1 mm thick just below the middle of the bar.

Thanks - Michael

maverick808 · Apr 29, 2005, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by mmurray

Has anyone else got a horizontal grey line through the menu bar at the top of the screen. Its one single line about 1 mm thick just below the middle of the bar.

Thanks - Michael

Yes, vile isn't it?

mmurray · Apr 29, 2005, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by maverick808

Yes, vile isn't it?

I just realised its a feature not a bug - sorry.

Yuck.

Michael

egg · Apr 29, 2005, 09:41 AM

I have the same problem. Powerbook 1Ghz.. lots of RAM.

edit: opps, i didn't hit the quote button as i wanted to. This comment is refering to the context menu taking 10 seconds to become active when selecting multiple jpgs.

Troll · Apr 29, 2005, 10:55 AM

Airport Signal
I've only just started using Tiger, but the first thing I noticed was that at my desk I now have one bar less than the full Airport strength. Before I had full signal. I am about 3 metres in a straight line from a D-Link 614+ router with no walls in the way.

Also, the Airport signal fluctuates when iChat is running and I'm losing it completely sometimes which is hugely irritating when you're making voice calls.

(Titanium PowerBook 867)

Citrix
As far as the Citrix problem goes, I can't boot the Citrix ICA application but I can login remotely by clicking the connection shortcut that I saved previously so functionally it's working fine for me.

Dave
I installed a demo of this a while back and thought I'd deleted it but I'm getting a message saying the Dave services failed.

mAxximo · Apr 29, 2005, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by egg

I have the same problem. Powerbook 1Ghz.. lots of RAM.

edit: opps, i didn't hit the quote button as i wanted to. This comment is refering to the context menu taking 10 seconds to become active when selecting multiple jpgs.

Crap...I hoped it was an isolated problem with my machine...
What makes it work fine for some and so bad for others?

mAxximo · Apr 29, 2005, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by SMacTech

This is not true. All 5 of my partitions were indexed. And if it were true, why would they include the ability to remove a disk in the privacy tab from spotlight indexing?

It is true, sorry. I'm not the only one reporting it.