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...god help us all !!! Against George Bush...keep it to yourself...this Powerbook Bike printer was arrrested for speaking his mind.
Link to his story
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Old news... pretty weird too.
There is an enourmous thread at slashdot on this.. anyway.
they never told him why he was being arrested... what a bunch of idiotic cops.
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Err, I'm all against Bush. But you shouldn't defend him, protest is good but painting the street is quite illegal.
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Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
Err, I'm all against Bush. But you shouldn't defend him, protest is good but painting the street is quite illegal.
It was chalk.
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That is one cool little toy he made there!!! I can't believe the police sometimes ok im gonna shut up before i get angry
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Originally posted by MindFad:
It was chalk.
And those police obviously didn't see him writing on the pavement because the cameras were on him the whole time, thats what made me angry, someone in the police obviously lied
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He didn't even get a chance to use it. According to the article I read, they arrested him while he was explaining it to the press.
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They came and discussed it for about an hour after getting a sergeant then a captain involved. It's on the video (link in threads above)
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Originally posted by wataru:
He didn't even get a chance to use it. According to the article I read, they arrested him while he was explaining it to the press.
Thought crime is double-plus-ungood.
Cops have been arresting non-protesters for just walking down the street. The cops pen people in and arrest everyone in some circumstances, including a French tourist who was unfortunate enough to be walking near some protesters.
They're also arresting people who are walking down the sidewalks in an organized way, which is legal provided that they aren't blocking street or pedestrian traffic.
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Originally posted by dodo_nutter:
They came and discussed it for about an hour after getting a sergeant then a captain involved. It's on the video (link in threads above)
It's a little known fact that NYC police officers employ a kind of "communal intelligence" - a bit like insects in bad sci-fi novels. If the first cop's brain starts to hurt he has to call in superiors to help him think
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
The NYPC "Hive Mind Theory"....i like it!!
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Originally posted by ringo:
Thought crime is double-plus-ungood.
Cops have been arresting non-protesters for just walking down the street. The cops pen people in and arrest everyone in some circumstances, including a French tourist who was unfortunate enough to be walking near some protesters.
They're also arresting people who are walking down the sidewalks in an organized way, which is legal provided that they aren't blocking street or pedestrian traffic.
I hope there are severe repercussions. What the police are doing can't be legal (or at least it shouldn't be).
And people claim that our rights aren't being trampled on.
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Originally posted by MindFad:
It was chalk.
oh. Well this changes my point of view
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Welcome to America under the gestapo Bush administration where you can be arrested for walking, being interviewed by the press, or being a French tourist.
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Originally posted by dodo_nutter:
Who polices the Police?
All the legal observers with videocameras that are swarming the streets. Lawsuits will follow with lots of footage from both sides. Wait a few weeks.
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Originally posted by dodo_nutter:
And those police obviously didn't see him writing on the pavement because the cameras were on him the whole time, thats what made me angry, someone in the police obviously lied
The police should have waited until the biker started demoing the printer. THEN ARREST HIM. He is guilty, no matter if the police saw the action or not.
It is like those guys who filmed themselves while drive-by shooting. This biker has a website where he demoes his printing bike. To the police, this is very strong evidence that they were dealing with the biker chalker.
There is a difference between chalk art on the street and this tasteless (while technologically impressive) matrix printer. He effectively defaced street.
If he had been an Arab guy, many people would have called the cops to "stop the suspicious bike bomber". The police agents were creating safety with no prejudice.
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Originally posted by ringo:
Wait a few weeks.
Just in time for the October Surprise�
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Originally posted by The Godfather:
The police should have waited until the biker started demoing the printer. THEN ARREST HIM. He is guilty, no matter if the police saw the action or not.
It is like those guys who filmed themselves while drive-by shooting. This biker has a website where he demoes his printing bike. To the police, this is very strong evidence that they were dealing with the biker chalker.
There is a difference between chalk art on the street and this tasteless (while technologically impressive) matrix printer. He effectively defaced street.
If he had been an Arab guy, many people would have called the cops to "stop the suspicious bike bomber". The police agents were creating safety with no prejudice.
Bull****
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Originally posted by Chinasaur:
Just in time for the October Surprise�
Which one? The war with Iran or the Pakistanis finally releasing Bin Laden into US Custody?
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Hey that's what happens. Freedom of speech means going with the group that has the most influence, and at this point it is Republicans...or is it Democrats...hehe the two groups are so similar its sometimes hard to tell who is who?
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Originally posted by stevesnj:
...god help us all !!! Against George Bush...keep it to yourself...this Powerbook Bike printer was arrrested for speaking his mind.
Link to his story
And if someone else was in office, he'd have been arrested too.
The Drama in here sometimes is laughable.
BTW
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Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Welcome to America under the gestapo Bush administration where you can be arrested for walking, being interviewed by the press, or being a French tourist.
Bush had nothing to do with it Einstein. If you want to blame the New York Police. Be my guest.
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Mac user or not, the guy is just another one of those moronic bush protesters, who parade around like a bunch of monkees.
Free speech my foot. You can not go around defacing sidewalks with chalk or whatever he is using.
I heard the detention centers in NYC are so full now, that many of the protesters are being held for 36 hours now. Serves em good.
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Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Welcome to America under the gestapo Bush administration where you can be arrested for walking, being interviewed by the press, or being a French tourist.
And welcome to the lying left, where all they do is tell one lie after another.
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The "Chalk" Takes over a month to go away.
He was defacing the city and got busted. Plain and simple.
People who makes this guy out to be some sort of martyr and think he wouldn't have got arrested under a Dem president are morons.
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And this thread is another case of illiterate leftists who cannot comprehend or even follow the simplest rules.
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Interesting how the cops lied...interesting, but not surprising.
Too many cops think they are the law instead of "tools" of the law.
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Originally posted by PacHead:
And welcome to the lying left, where all they do is tell one lie after another.
The left doesn't need facts or the plain truth when they can just parrot the catch-phrase du jour.
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Originally posted by Beewee:
Too many cops think they are the law instead of "tools" of the law.
I 100% agree. Emphasis on Tool.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
The "Chalk" Takes over a month to go away.
He was defacing the city and got busted. Plain and simple.
People who makes this guy out to be some sort of martyr and think he wouldn't have got arrested under a Dem president are morons.
In many cities around the world there is a meteorological phenomenon called "rain". It would have washed off, spray paint on the other hand is a different story.
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Leftist protesters - - - -
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Originally posted by dodo_nutter:
And those police obviously didn't see him writing on the pavement because the cameras were on him the whole time, thats what made me angry, someone in the police obviously lied
Yeah that was total bull, but it doesn't surprise me one bit.
I saw an episode of Maximum Exposure where a cop pepper sprays a clerk at Mcdonalds for "short changing" him $10. Yeah she was being uncooroperative, but how would you react if you KNOW for a fact that you didn't short change him and he comes in saying "Come with me you're under arrest."
When they reviewed the footage again they found he was in the wrong, and city wound up coughing up $600,000 to the clerk!
But of course he still got to keep his job.
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Originally posted by Beewee:
In many cities around the world there is a meteorological phenomenon called "rain". It would have washed off, spray paint on the other hand is a different story.
It MAY have. This isn't just "Chalk"
I have seen REGULAR Chalk leave marks on sidewalks well after it has rained.
There are different types.
Most "Kid" chalk is MADE to wash away easily.
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Originally posted by Beewee:
In many cities around the world there is a meteorological phenomenon called "rain". It would have washed off [...]
It would, but if everybody would do it it would become messy pretty quickly. And even when he's the only one who does it some people might be interested in reading his stuff everywhere. A public sidewalk is a public place to walk on, not a public advertising space.
A sensible reaction by the police would have been to tell him not to do it any more. But maybe they did that x-times before and he didn't listen. On the other hand if that's the first time the police encountered him then I think they overreacted.
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Originally posted by Beewee:
In many cities around the world there is a meteorological phenomenon called "rain". It would have washed off, spray paint on the other hand is a different story.
WHat's your address ? I'd like to stop by and piss on your house. Don't worry, it'll wash off eventually.
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Originally posted by PacHead:
WHat's your address ? I'd like to stop by and piss on your house. Don't worry, it'll wash off eventually.
Urinating in public is against the law, free speech is not.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
And if someone else was in office, he'd have been arrested too.
The Drama in here sometimes is laughable.
BTW
I never said the police were Bush supporters or said that this wouldn't happen at a DNC gathering. This issue is about the police and their misjudgement.
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Originally posted by stevesnj:
Urinating in public is against the law, free speech is not.
And ? The dude wasn't arrested for free speech. He was arrested for being a vandal.
The dude was not speaking, he was defacing sidewalks.
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Originally posted by stevesnj:
Urinating in public is against the law, free speech is not.
He's a moron, don't bother. Check it out�supar attack1!!1
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Originally posted by MindFad:
He's a moron, don't bother.
Only losers who have lost debates in the past would put somebody on ignore.
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Originally posted by PacHead:
And ? The dude wasn't arrested for free speech. He was arrested for being a vandal.
The dude was not speaking, he was defacing sidewalks.
Chalking the sidewalk is NOT vandalism, apart from which he wasn't.
He was talking to the press.
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Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Chalking the sidewalk is NOT vandalism, apart from which he wasn't.
He was talking to the press.
I suppose you didn't notice the writing on the sidewalk next to him ?
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Originally posted by PacHead:
And ? The dude wasn't arrested for free speech. He was arrested for being a vandal.
The dude was not speaking, he was defacing sidewalks.
Vandal : One who willfully or maliciously defaces or destroys public or private property.
this was not malicious or defacing or destroying...the written word is free speech in my America...if it was spray paint I say yay to him being arrested but this was a harmless form of protest...come on...it was chalk for God sake
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Originally posted by stevesnj:
Vandal : One who willfully or maliciously defaces or destroys public or private property.
this was not malicious or defacing or destroying...the written word is free speech in my America...if it was spray paint I say yay to him being arrested but this was a harmless form of protest...come on...it was chalk for God sake
Yeah, chalk that would be there for about a month. What's to stop somebody from doing it once a month, thus making it permament ?
The dude was engaging in graffiti, and graffiti vandals suck, and I'm glad they threw him in the slammer.
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Originally posted by PacHead:
I suppose you didn't notice the writing on the sidewalk next to him ?
I suppose you completely ignored all the TV crews there telling the cops that the writing was already there and that they had been with him the whole time and he NEVER wrote on the sidewalk?
As the figures I posted above demonstrate, the NYPD is going NUTS arresting people for NO GOOD REASON. This is just another example of that. Jesus, they arrested someone who HAPPENED to be walking in the VICINITY of protesters!
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Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Here are some FACTS for you:
Boston police said there were a TOTAL of 6 arrests during the ENTIRE week of protests at the DNC:
To date, there have been over 1700 arrests of protesters at the RNC, mostly misdemeanors.
This proves my point that there are more violent, lawless thugs, punks and degenerates on the left.
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Originally posted by PacHead:
This proves my point that there are more violent, lawless thugs, punks and degenerates on the left.
"WARNING: Interpretation of these figures will be severely affected by your political views"
But hey, read, don't learn, that's the internet.
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Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
"WARNING: Interpretation of these figures will be severely affected by your political views"
But hey, read, don't learn, that's the internet.
Oh, but come on�you had to see that coming. It's like a middle-school debate class. Please check critical thinking at the door. INTERNET: THIS IS YOUR LIFE!
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