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Sep 2, 2004, 04:56 PM
 
I always wondered of not seeing any airplane remains on the field....
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Sep 2, 2004, 05:05 PM
 
I was going to dismiss it has a bunch of hooey, but since it has movie-like production and catchy music, it must be true.
     
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Sep 2, 2004, 05:09 PM
 
Hadn't really thought about this before... but it's a good point.

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Sep 2, 2004, 05:15 PM
 
Heh, I hadn't had a good laugh in awhile.

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Sep 2, 2004, 06:37 PM
 
Originally posted by yoyoman:
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Interesting presentation with nice visuals BUT what happened then to Flight 77?
I am skeptical but this stretches almost all bounds of logic.

Plus, lack of large airplane parts on the ground does not a conspiracy make.
Check out some images from the crash of Flight 93 in PA. There is nothing
but a burn mark on the ground. You know why? Because a plane flying straight
down at over 500mph is not going to leave too many big pieces. It is going to
shatter in a million little pieces. The pictures of crashes you show are from plans
that crashed on takeoff or landing where the plane's airspeed is no more than
180mph. Of course there is going to be large chunks remaining.

Here is an experiment for you to try. Drop an egg from a 10 foot height OR
roll it down a ramp that is 10-feet-high and has a slope of 10-20%. Put a
cinder block at the bottom and see which egg has more damage. It's all physics.
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Sep 2, 2004, 06:48 PM
 
Nice video but i believe them when they say there are no parts, you would expect there to be some bits plus that streak going into the pentagon definitely wasn't a 757. So where did that flight go?? no where near the Bermuda triangle hey
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Sep 2, 2004, 06:53 PM
 
Interesting. I'm not completely sold, but it was interesting.

Originally posted by dcmacdaddy:
You know why? Because a plane flying straight down at over 500mph is not going to leave too many big pieces. It is going to shatter in a million little pieces.
The camera work showed an object flying into the building from the side, not straight down.

Still, something moving that fast might have nearly disintigrated on impact. The other crash photos they showed for comparison may have been from planes moving at a lower speed. I don't remember seeing a lot of debris from the Trade Center impacts either.

...not convinced that there's a conspiracy.
     
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Sep 2, 2004, 07:39 PM
 
So where did the plane end up? Also would have found parts of a missile.

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Sep 2, 2004, 07:45 PM
 
The guy makes some interesting points. Though it's hard to keep up, he doesn't leave the text on screen long enough.
If that is Pentagon security camera taking the shot, and it's real, then that object looks waay to small to be a 757.

After watching, it made me think back to the news reports.
They kept showing the planes crash into the trade towers over and over and over again, on practically every station. But I don't remember seeing nearly as much coverage of the Pentagon, save for the fire crews spraying water.

Not enough to make you a believer in an instant, but enough to compel
you to do your own research on it. If there's one thing I learned in history, it's governments lie all the time. I doubt that's change just because a few hundred years have gone by.
     
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Sep 2, 2004, 08:16 PM
 
Skeptics will critcize it, others will believe it is the "Holy Grail"
of evidence. I am intrigued by it.

The problem is we will never know. We only know what the government tells us, some will believe only what the government tells them. Doesn't matter whether you have a demo, rep, or indep in office they'll all do it, have done it and will continue.

The thing people don't seem to get is that the government is a business. The only difference between them and regular businesses is they have the unique ability to control their customer satifaction rating. Now, if a normal business could give itself any review or rating it wanted, how many would make them positive.
     
   
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