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macintologist · Dec 21, 2006, 06:13 AM

This is just a poll to correspond with the heated topic in the political lounge.

Y3a · Dec 21, 2006, 09:23 AM

When is a topic NOT HEATED in the political lounge?

rickey939 · Dec 21, 2006, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Y3a

When is a topic NOT HEATED in the political lounge?

When it's about an iPod and posted in the wrong forum.

badidea · Dec 21, 2006, 09:39 AM

[ ] Yes (16+)
[ ] Yes (-16)
[ ] No (-16)
[ ] No (16-20)
[ ] No (20-29)
[ ] Still waiting (=> 29+)
[ ] I waited

^would have been more interesting!

Mastrap · Dec 21, 2006, 09:59 AM

What other people do in the privacy of their bedrooms (or back of the car or wherever I don't have to watch) is of little concern to me. You want to wait, wait. You want to get laid whenever you can, that's ok with me too.

Just don't impose your standards onto my life.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 11:07 AM

Mr. Data, set course for Premarital Sex. Engage.

design219 · Dec 21, 2006, 11:10 AM

Years ago I told my wife "that's what engaged means."

Worked.

Millennium · Dec 21, 2006, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by badidea

[ ] Yes (16+)
[ ] Yes (-16)
[ ] No (-16)
[ ] No (16-20)
[ ] No (20-29)
[ ] Still waiting (=> 29+)
[ ] I waited

^would have been more interesting!

I'm thinking along the lines of:

[ ] Yes.
[ ] No; I waited.
[ ] No, and I intend to wait.
[ ] No, but I don't intend to wait.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 11:28 AM

Yes, that'd be better.

galarneau · Dec 21, 2006, 11:50 AM

Who cares abou premarital sex?

I wanna get some marital sex.

Having a 15-month old son kills the nookie

starman · Dec 21, 2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Mr. Data, set course for Premarital Sex. Engage.

Not your best moment there, dude.

osiris · Dec 21, 2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by galarneau

Who cares abou premarital sex?

I wanna get some marital sex.

Having a 15-month old son kills the nookie

sounds like you need pre-engaged marital sex.

badidea · Dec 21, 2006, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Millennium

I'm thinking along the lines of:

[ ] Yes.
[ ] No; I waited.
[ ] No, and I intend to wait.
[ ] No, but I don't intend to wait.

Simpler is better - agreed!

zerostar · Dec 21, 2006, 11:56 AM

Together 6 years so yeah, not married though. Did the deed the 2nd day we met, still love her unbelievably to this day.

andi*pandi · Dec 21, 2006, 12:05 PM

awww.

torsoboy · Dec 21, 2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by zerostar

Together 6 years so yeah, not married though. Did the deed the 2nd day we met, still love her unbelievably to this day.

Worthless without pics?

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Not your best moment there, dude.

Mr. Data, target the star(man). Fire photon torpedos.

If I'm going down, I'm going all the way down.

(Anyway, the charm there was that it was more nerdy than funny)

Chuckit · Dec 21, 2006, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Mr. Data, set course for Premarital Sex. Engage.

So that's a no?

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 12:26 PM

One would think so from the quote, but I managed to beam myself into a girls pants in high school.

Oh, I'm on a roll now

DeathToWindows · Dec 21, 2006, 12:58 PM

Very simple. Not until marriage.

Rumor · Dec 21, 2006, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by design219

Years ago I told my wife "that's what engaged means."

Worked.

This made me laugh pretty good.

Originally Posted by galarneau

Who cares abou premarital sex?

I wanna get some marital sex.

Having a 15-month old son kills the nookie

This is killing me.

Rumor · Dec 21, 2006, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by DeathToWindows

Very simple. Not until marriage.

What if you got married to a hussie in Vegas, had a crazy night and divorced the next day?

Does that count?

Gossamer · Dec 21, 2006, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

What if you got married to a hussie in Vegas, had a crazy night and divorced the next day?

Does that count?

Well then you'd be lying when giving vows.

Rumor · Dec 21, 2006, 01:15 PM

Now days, marriage seems to be more of a tax break than anything else.

Fewer and fewer people seem to be getting married for the right reasons.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Well then you'd be lying when giving vows.

Well, everything sounds better coming out of Elvis' mouth.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Now days, marriage seems to be more of a tax break than anything else.

Fewer and fewer people seem to be getting married for the right reasons.

I'd like to know if the average time people date before getting married has changed, because my unscientific observation has been the people who get married still do so rather early in relationships (Even if its later on in their lives).

Rumor · Dec 21, 2006, 01:21 PM

I don't have any data to back my claims up, just personal observation.

Gossamer · Dec 21, 2006, 01:25 PM

From my observations, Christians get married a lot sooner than non. I'm betting this is because they have to tie the knot before they can "do the dew," but non-Christians often don't feel like they have to.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 01:26 PM

It's an interesting thought. It would certainly make them more susceptible to a higher divorce rate, putting them on par perhaps with non-practicing folks.

Sherman Homan · Dec 21, 2006, 01:32 PM

Have you engaged in premarital sex?

Not today, yet...

Rumor · Dec 21, 2006, 01:33 PM

Here's a little something.

Welcome to The Barna Group!

christ · Dec 21, 2006, 01:56 PM

a) |Not since I got married

b) depends on how you define 'sex' (or 'engage') (or, for that matter 'have')

turtle777 · Dec 21, 2006, 02:01 PM

This thread has a future. I want to believe it.

-t

kmkkid · Dec 21, 2006, 02:01 PM

Yes, I had premarital sex. Only because marriage wasn't an option for gays at the time.

Who am I kidding, I would have anyways.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

This thread has a future. I want to believe it.

-t

It's got a brighter future than over 50% of marriages.

Gossamer · Dec 21, 2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

It's got a brighter future than over 50% of marriages.

The study Rumor linked to said it's closer to 1/3.

TheoCryst · Dec 21, 2006, 02:27 PM

Define "sex." Define "virgin." Define "marri... wait, I think I've got that one covered.

In other words, I'm kinda in a gray area. You know, cuz I'm sure everyone in the Lounge was intensely curious.

And as a completely random sidenote, I'm fricking cold. I thought Arizona was supposed to be hot?

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

The study Rumor linked to said it's closer to 1/3.

Clarify. There were so many percentages quoted in the article 37% of me is confused.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by TheoCryst

Define "sex." Define "virgin." Define "marri... wait, I think I've got that one covered.

In other words, I'm kinda in a gray area. You know, cuz I'm sure everyone in the Lounge was intensely curious.

And as a completely random sidenote, I'm fricking cold. I thought Arizona was supposed to be hot?

As a basic rule, so long as you haven't penetrated someone you're a virgin.

Gossamer · Dec 21, 2006, 02:36 PM

Among those who have been married, more than one out of every three (35%) have also been divorced. One out of every five adults (18%) who has ever been divorced has been divorced multiple times. That represents 7% of all Americans who have been married.

It took me a while to find that.

And Adam Carolla on LoveLine said that a guy could penetrate without losing his virginity, but with girls it's a lot shadier.

Personally I think people put too much emphasis on intercourse itself. I think too many people put it up on a pedestal but figure it's okay to do anything they want up to that point, which, IMO, is just as bad.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

It took me a while to find that.

Appreciated, but you do realize 1/3 is the remarry rate?

Originally Posted by Gossamer

And Adam Carolla on LoveLine said that a guy could penetrate without losing his virginity, but with girls it's a lot shadier.

I know this isn't what you're saying, but you're quoting him as a source?

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Personally I think people put too much emphasis on intercourse itself.

That sword cuts both ways. Hence the derision towards premarital virginity.

Originally Posted by Gossamer

I think too many people put it up on a pedestal but figure it's okay to do anything they want up to that point, which, IMO, is just as bad.

Another type of hypocrisy, within itself, IMO

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 02:42 PM

Old Jaw needs to weigh in one of these threads here.

Gossamer · Dec 21, 2006, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Appreciated, but you do realize 1/3 is the remarry rate?

I don't follow.

Born again Christians have the same likelihood of divorce as do non-Christians.
Among married born again Christians, 35% have experienced a divorce. That figure is identical to the outcome among married adults who are not born again: 35%.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 02:50 PM

Mmm... I read it funny.

I was thinking that the married people had already experienced a divorce.

BTW, is this not way out of line of most statistics that project divorce at over 50%?

Gossamer · Dec 21, 2006, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Mmm... I read it funny.

I was thinking that the married people had already experienced a divorce.

BTW, is this not way out of line of most statistics that project divorce at over 50%?

Are there actually any?
If so I'd bet they figure that while 50% of marriages might end in divorce, they include the 'repeat offenders' in that tally. This study doesn't do that.

MrsLarry · Dec 21, 2006, 02:53 PM

I didn't wait. That being said, it's only been with one guy, the one i'm marrying in September.

Originally Posted by Dakar²

I'd like to know if the average time people date before getting married has changed, because my unscientific observation has been the people who get married still do so rather early in relationships (Even if its later on in their lives).

This post is useless without a poll...

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by MrsLarry

This post is useless without a poll...

Yes, my idle speculation is useless, but an unscientific MacNN poll would be equally so.

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Are there actually any?
If so I'd bet they figure that while 50% of marriages might end in divorce, they include the 'repeat offenders' in that tally. This study doesn't do that.

I've been hearing that number since the 80s (So I should be able to find something on the web here in a moment).

That second part is a good question (and I do believe remarriers face a 70-80% divorce rate)

Dakar² · Dec 21, 2006, 03:16 PM

Gossamer, your statement appears to stand:

...that the percentage of all marriages that eventually end in divorce peaked in the United States at about 41% around 1980, and has been slowly declining ever since, standing by 2002 at around 31%...

(At least if you trust the New York Times)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce

SSharon · Dec 21, 2006, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

I'd like to know if the average time people date before getting married has changed, because my unscientific observation has been the people who get married still do so rather early in relationships (Even if its later on in their lives).

Well I have been dating my gf for over 5 years now and we are finally starting the wedding plans.