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macintologist · Dec 12, 2008, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Ah, so it's brand loyalty blindness.

The most important thing to consider when buying a car is the brand.

Laminar · Dec 12, 2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by MallyMal

Also, it only takes me a couple hours to "acquire."

Originally Posted by EndlessMac

For me it's worth the trade off because it always took me too long to "acquire" the episodes. I don't have the fastest internet speeds...

Torrents can be a killer when you're on basic DSL or *shudder* dial-up.

MallyMal · Dec 12, 2008, 01:22 PM

Oh, gotcha, I didn't see the part about the internet speed.

d4nth3m4n · Dec 12, 2008, 06:52 PM

torrent? pfft. ftp is where it's at.

NZB if your ISP is AOK. ugh.

the_glassman · Dec 12, 2008, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Is it that much different than a Yaris? You can get one well-equipped for $15k and still get ~39mpg.

FYI I average 37MPG mixed in my Fit and it's a worlds apart from a Yaris. You either get the Fit or you don't.

Laminar · Dec 12, 2008, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by the_glassman

FYI I average 37MPG mixed in my Fit and it's a worlds apart from a Yaris. You either get the Fit or you don't.

That doesn't surprise me - I can't imagine how the Fit performed so poorly for the EPA tests.

the_glassman · Dec 12, 2008, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

That doesn't surprise me - I can't imagine how the Fit performed so poorly for the EPA tests.

One of the few things that bothers me about the car is the gearing. (US models at least)
It has very short gear ratios and in fifth gear at 70mph the engine is at 3500RPM's! That's right where VTEC kicks in, negatively affecting mileage. The automatics gear ratios are actually better suited for mpg. That might be one of the reasons the car did so poorly on the EPA test.

When I was purchasing the vehicle I expressed my concern about the relatively low mileage in comparison to other vehicles this size to the sales person. Of course they told me that most people were averaging well over the stated numbers. I don't trust anything somebody trying to sell a car says, but I have been pleasantly surprised with the gas mileage I've experienced thus far.

In Europe they offer a 1.2L version that averages 51.4mpg on the European cycle. I wish they offered that engine choice here.

imitchellg5 · Dec 12, 2008, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Ah, so it's brand loyalty blindness.

If I was the typical Honda snob I wouldn't even be considering a Ford, now would I?

Laminar · Dec 12, 2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

If I was the typical Honda snob I wouldn't even be considering a Ford, now would I?

Well, you managed to dismiss an entire make of cars with a subjective, generalized statement.

imitchellg5 · Dec 12, 2008, 11:15 PM

Okay. I assume you like fun to drive cars. See any new Toyotas that might be fun to drive and be affordable? I don't.

Laminar · Dec 13, 2008, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

Okay. I assume you like fun to drive cars. See any new Toyotas that might be fun to drive and be affordable? I don't.

The problem is that "fun" is entirely subjective. Some people think driving a car with less than 120 hp could possibly be fun, but I don't.

shifuimam · Dec 13, 2008, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Is it that much different than a Yaris? You can get one well-equipped for $15k and still get ~39mpg.

The Fit and the Yaris aren't quite in the same class of car - the Toyota Matrix is closer to the Fit in features and size; Honda doesn't have anything as tiny as the Yaris.

I was planning on buying a Fit when I decided to replace my Grand Prix. I test drove the Fit, the Matrix, and a Nissan Versa. Had I decided to go with that whole class of mini-wagon, I would have gone with the Versa - it had a more comfortable drive and cost several grand less than the Fit. I ended up going with a Hyundai Tuscon, because it felt safer and was more versatile for me. Plus I got a used one for about $5k less than what a Versa would have cost me.

Also, the original link is dead - BBC pulled the video. Here's a good one:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VN8aNdHWNzE

I LOLed.

Laminar · Dec 14, 2008, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by shifuimam

The Fit and the Yaris aren't quite in the same class of car - the Toyota Matrix is closer to the Fit in features and size; Honda doesn't have anything as tiny as the Yaris.

Not quite. The Fit is right between the Yaris and Matrix in most categories, and anyone in the market for a Fit will typically cross-shop the Yaris more often than the Matrix.

stevesnj · Dec 14, 2008, 07:27 PM

Ha...its made in Germany...I knew America can't make a car this solid.

scottiB · Dec 15, 2008, 01:03 AM

And when it comes to America late next year, it won't be made in America, either, but Mexico.

villalobos · Dec 15, 2008, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by stevesnj

Ha...its made in Germany...I knew America can't make a car this solid.

my 99.5 GTI was made in Germany, and was the biggest POS I have ever driven. I drove some major league POS cars.

stevesnj · Dec 17, 2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by villalobos

my 99.5 GTI was made in Germany, and was the biggest POS I have ever driven. I drove some major league POS cars.

me too...all of my POS cars were made in America. We are good at other things but we just can't make a good car...can't win them all I guess.