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The world is still here....funny I thought for sure we'd all be dead by now.

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I thought Jesus was supposed to return to Earth by now?
I think we'd all be dead in that case too.
     
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Global warming: if it real why aren't we dead yet?
     
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Global warming: if it real why aren't we dead yet?
I thought it was "climate change" not "global warming"?
     
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Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
I thought it was "climate change" not "global warming"?
Is there a difference?
     
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Global warming: if it real why aren't we dead yet?
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Is there a difference?
I would imagine so, otherwise the concept wouldn't have been rebranded. Right?
     
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Do i need to start using /s here? I thought we were above that.
     
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Do i need to start using /s here? I thought we were above that.
     
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Do i need to start using /s here? I thought we were above that.
Touche.
     
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Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
I would imagine so, otherwise the concept wouldn't have been rebranded. Right?
No, I wouldn't agree with that. People often use terms interchangeably.
     
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Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
I would imagine so, otherwise the concept wouldn't have been rebranded. Right?
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
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Aug 10, 2016, 07:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
No, I wouldn't agree with that. People often use terms interchangeably.
The answer is of course that it's both. It's global warming, and it's climate change. They can be used interchangeably, but strictly speaking are referring to two separate but closely related events.

Of course, people try to use one or the other to be very specific - mostly because, of course, Certain People screamed bloody murder that "warming" was a lie because it had been really cold outside for the last month.

Yes, those are the same people now complaining about the use of the two terms, of course. But I think we've figured that out by now.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Shortcut View Post
The answer is of course that it's both. It's global warming, and it's climate change. They can be used interchangeably, but strictly speaking are referring to two separate but closely related events.
Interchangeably? Logically global warming would always be climate change, but climate change wouldn't necessarily global warming. Always fun to argue semantics, even just for a little

Of course, people try to use one or the other to be very specific - mostly because, of course, Certain People screamed bloody murder that "warming" was a lie because it had been really cold outside for the last month.
Idiots will be idiots, Global Warming is a form of Climate Change, and water is wet.


Yes, those are the same people now complaining about the use of the two terms, of course. But I think we've figured that out by now.
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Aug 11, 2016, 11:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
Interchangeably? Logically global warming would always be climate change, but climate change wouldn't necessarily global warming.
They can only be used interchangeably because climate change, at this time, does mean global warming.

It's still not "re-branding".
     
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Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
Interchangeably? Logically global warming would always be climate change, but climate change wouldn't necessarily global warming.
https://www.theguardian.com/environm....climatechange
The memo, by the leading Republican consultant Frank Luntz, concedes the party has "lost the environmental communications battle" and urges its politicians to encourage the public in the view that there is no scientific consensus on the dangers of greenhouse gases

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The phrase "global warming" should be abandoned in favour of "climate change", Mr Luntz says, and the party should describe its policies as "conservationist" instead of "environmentalist", because "most people" think environmentalists are "extremists" who indulge in "some pretty bizarre behaviour... that turns off many voters".
I don't think you're aware of who did the rebranding.

Originally Posted by Snow-i View Post
Always fun to argue semantics, even just for a little
A little? I feel a good chunk of your posts is ripping apart phrasing and terms rather than the points being made.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
https://www.theguardian.com/environm....climatechange

I don't think you're aware of who did the rebranding.
It doesn't really matter to me either way.

A little? I feel a good chunk of your posts is ripping apart phrasing and terms rather than the points being made.
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Aug 20, 2016, 10:11 PM
 
Back to talking about Gore....what next, telling us that warming stopped 15 years ago? Or have the septic blogs finally quietly moved on from that argument?
     
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Aug 20, 2016, 10:14 PM
 
I wonder how responsible Gore was for tying this issue to politics. I think some right-wingers have turned their noses up against the science because they don't like Gore, and have never looked back. Such is politics, I guess.
     
 
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