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l008com · 09:09 PM

Has anyone else noticed this? I host my own mail and i switched from POP to IMAP when I got my iBook so that I could check my mail from anywhere, and not have to worry about some emails only being on certain computers etc. So it all seemed to be going fine, until I started doing stuff with it. To move an email from one IMAP account to another takes a LONG time. Try to do more than one at once, and it gives you an error. Do a whole bunch of emails one at a time, and slowly they will all go, but their Date received changes from the real date, to the exact date/time you move it. Thats very annoying. So many of my mailboxes are so out of order now.

ckohler · Jan 2, 2004, 08:20 PM

I've always had a single IMAP mailbox and it's always worked perfectly in Mail. Sounds like trouble starts when you have more than one.

l008com · Jan 2, 2004, 08:28 PM

I have 17. I also have a problem with mail filters. Filters that specifically "move" mail from one account to another (rules or whatever they are called) still copy instead. I had to change the rule so it first copies, then deletes the original, and I'm still waiting to see if it works.

AND another thing, I still get those instances where you quit Mail and it won't quit, and the quit option is grayed out so you can't choose it again. Every upgrade to OS X claims better mail.app, and the problem has certainly lessened each time, but I still get it once in a while even on 10.3.

maxintosh · Jan 2, 2004, 08:31 PM

I was wondering if it was just my IMAP account at school. Mail very often mysteriously "re-appears" after deleting it! It's the most annoying thing in the world. And if a filter moves the message, then a copy of the message will pop up and sit in my main inbox folder. Argh!

larkost · Jan 3, 2004, 12:34 AM

I run my own Courier-MTA server, and have had great results with Mail.app and IMAP. Rules work fine, moving single messages (even que'ed) is fast (well... when I am not on a bad dial-up).

The only issues I have had are a slight bug in how folders are laid out (this is a know issue for Courier), and mail.app does not like to move threads as a single piece.

Toyin · Jan 4, 2004, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by l008com:
I have 17. I also have a problem with mail filters. Filters that specifically "move" mail from one account to another (rules or whatever they are called) still copy instead. I had to change the rule so it first copies, then deletes the original, and I'm still waiting to see if it works.

AND another thing, I still get those instances where you quit Mail and it won't quit, and the quit option is grayed out so you can't choose it again. Every upgrade to OS X claims better mail.app, and the problem has certainly lessened each time, but I still get it once in a while even on 10.3.

17 IMAP accounts? Apple's free apps aren't for advanced users (ie iMovie, iPhoto). You are obviously a 'power' email user. Sounds like you're going to need a commercial solution to manage your email (or maybe an X11 app)

Good luck.

wataru · Jan 4, 2004, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by maxintosh:
I was wondering if it was just my IMAP account at school. Mail very often mysteriously "re-appears" after deleting it! It's the most annoying thing in the world. And if a filter moves the message, then a copy of the message will pop up and sit in my main inbox folder. Argh!

Sounds like Mail isn't getting a chance to update your remote mailboxes. Are you on a slow connection? Try looking at the progress window to make sure Mail finishes all its processes before you quit or disconnect.

Mail works fine for my (single) IMAP account.

CatOne · Jan 4, 2004, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by l008com:
Has anyone else noticed this? I host my own mail and i switched from POP to IMAP when I got my iBook so that I could check my mail from anywhere, and not have to worry about some emails only being on certain computers etc. So it all seemed to be going fine, until I started doing stuff with it. To move an email from one IMAP account to another takes a LONG time. Try to do more than one at once, and it gives you an error. Do a whole bunch of emails one at a time, and slowly they will all go, but their Date received changes from the real date, to the exact date/time you move it. Thats very annoying. So many of my mailboxes are so out of order now.

I regularly back up my IMAP based emails (on internal mail server and .Mac accounts), to an IMAP server (running on OS X Server 10.3). About 100 megs on the corporate email server, and about 20 megs on .Mac.

I just drag copy all the folders, and let it go. Takes about 5-10 minutes, and everything copies perfectly.

So it's not Mail.app. You have a crappy network connection somewhere.

A certain copy who writes mail.app encourages its users to use IMAP (and mail.app). I think it's tested a bit, and it works fine

CatOne · Jan 4, 2004, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by ckohler:
I've always had a single IMAP mailbox and it's always worked perfectly in Mail. Sounds like trouble starts when you have more than one.

Definitely not. I have > 100 IMAP mailboxes, and it works fine. As I said above I can also drag copy 100 IMAP mailboxes at a time from one mail server to another (for backup purposes). Works great, if you have a fast network (in my case 100 Mbps ethernet -- intranet).