[MindFad]

Oooh, that looks quite interesting. Thanks for the linkage.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by chalk_outline:
And Zim. It would be cool if you linked to your sources.

Chalk you need to read my posts. I didn't post said source as an accurate representative of the truth. I posted them to make a point. Such things are flawed and can be construed to be whatever said author wants to them to be.

As history has shown us, polling numbers really have no effect on the actual election.

Too many elections won by the guy NOT winning in the polls to say otherwise. And here am I saying this when Bush is on top at the moment, so it's just not me "sour graping"

[Troll]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I didn't post said source as an accurate representative of the truth. I posted them to make a point.

You didn't post a source. You just posted figures ... and it seems to me you're admitting to having made them up!

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Troll:
You didn't post a source. You just posted figures ... and it seems to me you're admitting to having made them up!

Troll GET A GRIP AND READ WHAT I SAID.

No, I didn't MAKE THEM UP. I found them on the web.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I POSTED A SOURCE OR NOT. My intentions weren't to prove any statistical truth.

My intentions were to show numbers can be made to say whatever you want them to.

So posting a source is irrelevant to my point. UNDERSTAND?

I am not going to go back and look through my browser's history just to find a web page I went to when it has NO BEARING to my intentions of said post.

Hopefully this will be the last time I have to repeat myself.

[dcolton]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Troll GET A GRIP AND READ WHAT I SAID.

No, I didn't MAKE THEM UP. I found them on the web.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I POSTED A SOURCE OR NOT. My intentions weren't to prove any statistical truth.

My intentions were to show numbers can be made to say whatever you want them to.

So posting a source is irrelevant to my point. UNDERSTAND?

I am not going to go back and look through my browser's history just to find a web page I went to when it has NO BEARING to my intentions of said post.

Hopefully this will be the last time I have to repeat myself.

I didn't hear you, could you repeat yourself?

[Zimphire]

Heck what unnerved me was Troll was QUOTING one of the posts I made claiming I was making a point, and not saying said stats were accurate. AND HE STILL ASKS for sources!

[Troll]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
No, I didn't MAKE THEM UP. I found them on the web.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I POSTED A SOURCE OR NOT. My intentions weren't to prove any statistical truth.

If you found them on the web but refuse to post the source, then you might as well have made them up! Your point is that anyone can make up facts (or copy someone else's made-up facts) to support their point. E.g. The sky is falling down. Evidence - height of sky in January 2004 - 14km, height of sky in September 2004 - 11km.

Making real facts say what you want them to is a little more difficult.

Btw: Is your girlymen sig your way of saying gay men are going to vote liberal?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Troll:
If you found them on the web but refuse to post the source, then you might as well have made them up!

AND I AM TELLING YOU IT DOESN'T MATTER WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF MY POST!
I didn't make them up. But if I did, IT WOULDN'T MATTER.

Making real facts say what you want them to is a little more difficult.

I assure you, said facts weren't "made up"

Btw: Is your girlymen sig your way of saying gay men are going to vote liberal?

Yes Troll, that is exactly what it says.

You got anymore knee-jerking you want to do before the day is over?

[Troll]

Originally posted by Zimphire:

AND I AM TELLING YOU IT DOESN'T MATTER WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF MY POST![/B]

Let me remind you of the CONTEXT OF YOUR POST. I said that the economy was not better under Bush than it was under Clinton. In THAT context, you posted anonymous information suggesting that the poverty rate under Bush for 2001-2002 was 9.40%. In the CONTEXT of your post, I posted Census Board information suggesting that the rate was actually 11.7% - 12.1%.

In the context of your post, it actually does matter whether that information you posted was true or not. It matters because unless you can defend your facts, the point stands that more people live in poverty under Bush than under Clinton.