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My stupid iPhone game: Nesen Probe, it's rather old, annoying and pointless, but it's free.
Was free. Now it's gone. Never to be seen again.
Off to join its brother and sister apps that could not
keep up with the ever updating iOS. RIP Nesen Probe.
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Now if h264 would just win out the video standards...
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Originally Posted by Athens
Now if h264 would just win out the video standards...
It has in effect done that. Youtube is not going WebM only, Chrome is not going WebM only, and Mozilla has already added H.264 support to the mobile version of Firefox and discussing doing so on the desktop. Their problem there is that if they just enable OS codecs, that leaves all Win XP users out in the cold, and XP is still some 40% of their userbase. That is a very different problem from their principled stand against all patent-encumbered codecs.
It has also been interesting to view the reactions to this. Mozilla has been very open about the fact that this was a war they lost, and they're now surrendering. Google has not said a word.
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The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
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A lot of developers are sticking to Flash for video right now because of the possible format war with WebM. Google backing WebM pushed clear adoption of H.264 for the HTML 5 standard back by a couple years at least.
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But most Flash video is just a wrapper for h.264!
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Originally Posted by Athens
A lot of developers are sticking to Flash for video right now because of the possible format war with WebM. Google backing WebM pushed clear adoption of H.264 back by a couple years at least.
I don't see how. If you already have a Flash infrastructure, it's easy to add HTML5 <video> with H.264. Adding WebM means re-encoding. This is a big reason why H.264 is winning - the transition from Flash is so easy.
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot
But most Flash video is just a wrapper for h.264!
Yes, but HTML 5 standard does not use h.264 in a flash wrapper....
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Originally Posted by Athens
Yes, but HTML 5 standard does not use h.264 in a flash wrapper....
So?
IANAD, but it would seem utterly trivial to just leave off the wrapper and serve up the h.264 directly, if needed.
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot
So?
IANAD, but it would seem utterly trivial to just leave off the wrapper and serve up the h.264 directly, if needed.
Correct - which is what is generally done: try to use <video> with H.264, and use Flash as fallback if that fails.
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