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Why do you believe what you believe? (Page 6)
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Originally Posted by ebuddy
Is this an example of religion being divisive Waragainstsleep?
Yeah it was a cheap shot. Couldn't resist.
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I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
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Now this thread really got stupid.
Every time I hear an athlete thank god for allowing him, her, to beat someone it just confirms my disdain for religion is validated.
But hey, believe what you want, just let me see topless cheerleaders, deal?
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Does anyone actually read Uncle Skeleton's posts? A british expatriate living in Seattle whom goes by the tradename "Pontificator".
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OH I would prob get along great with Uncle Skeleton in real life then.
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Missed 2012 by 3 days, RIP Grandma :-(
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Wow. I have no idea whom you're talking about, but it's not me ![Laughing](images/smilies/laughing.gif)
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Originally Posted by Railroader
I didn't say it wasn't valid. But making up your own beliefs about something with little more than you feelings seems a bit shallow to me.
Did you read anything I posted? The way you talk about what I believe in seems like you are trying to paint me as having pulled it straight out of my ass minutes before posting in this thread.
I have reconciled my distaste for organized religion, while keeping my overall faith intact because of a myriad of reasons and personal experiences, to see them called shallow is an insult and I expected more from you.
Remember this in the future the next time you are frustrated dealing with a hard-headed atheist that belittles your beliefs, because that is exactly what you have done here.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton
Wow. I have no idea whom you're talking about, but it's not me
Maybe a little slander and defamation will shut you up. That's what you get for not falling in lock-step boy!
Welcome, the water's fine. ![Wink](https://forums.macnn.com/images/smilies/oldschool/wink.gif)
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Originally Posted by sek929
Did you read anything I posted? The way you talk about what I believe in seems like you are trying to paint me as having pulled it straight out of my ass minutes before posting in this thread.
I have reconciled my distaste for organized religion, while keeping my overall faith intact because of a myriad of reasons and personal experiences, to see them called shallow is an insult and I expected more from you.
Remember this in the future the next time you are frustrated dealing with a hard-headed atheist that belittles your beliefs, because that is exactly what you have done here.
You are right, that did come off as insulting. Poor word choice on my part. Please forgive me.
I have no doubt that you have thought extensively about the beliefs you have.
I should have stopped with my initial sentence of "I didn't say it wasn't valid." Your beliefs are yours and are as valid as any other's.
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Thanks RR, I appreciate it.
If nothing else, you can take solace in the fact I am no longer an asshole atheist.
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Originally Posted by sek929
If nothing else, you can take solace in the fact I am no longer an asshole atheist.
I do, I really really do.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton
Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep
...a lack of evidence can constitute evidence
...Please explain where this detailed wikipedia article is wrong:
Argument from ignorance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Specifically, this related article has an eerily relevant quote: "Philosophic arguments that depend on evidence of absence are commonly referred to in peer-reviewed literature as "noseeum arguments". The argument form is specifically inductive in that evidence is accumulated; as one collects a larger dataset the argument grows stronger. Some noseeum arguments are very strong, such as checking the fridge for milk and determining that there is none, since it is relatively easy to systematically remove every item from the fridge, verify that it is not milk, and visually inspect the empty space left over. At the other extreme are noseeum arguments about the existence, or lack thereof, of alien lifeforms. Since the universe is enormous relative to our known area, a noseeum argument stating that there are no alien lifeforms would be very weak." Evidence of absence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So... are you planning to answer this? I know that wikipedia is not authoritative, but it's just that I agree with everything on those two pages, especially the Carl Sagan quote "impatience with ambiguity," so I am interested to know which part you think is wrong and why (or why you think it doesn't apply).
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I don't know what to believe anymore.
I saw this:
Sun Causes Climate Change Shock – Telegraph Blogs
Excerpt -
The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth.
The research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal Nature, comes from über-prestigious CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. CERN is the organization that invented the World Wide Web, that built the multi-billion dollar Large Hadron Collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the Earth’s atmosphere.
In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth.
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Originally Posted by BadKosh
I don't know what to believe anymore.
I believe there are any number of other threads to have posted that in.
/shrug
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