[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by dankar 

MacPro with OSX 10.5

4 cores 3ghz, 8gb ram, XT1900
History State: 1
Cache: 4
Time: 28 secs

Hi Dankar, great to have you back! True to your word, you posted the Leopard results... thanks...

A few questions:

— Could you do it again with the Cache set to minimum and on restart? 28 seconds is about the same as you got way back on you first big speed bump.

— I have to believe all that juice you gave your machine has to have an effect, if not on the test by itself, then certainly with the various levels of challenge you gave it? I posted those again below, so you don't have to dig back to find them. Could you redo these as well, with exactly the same apps open and/or running work? I bet you will see your sweetheart stand stronger under the weight.

— Way back then you said you were planning to upgrade to 8GB RAM, and I see that is in place. What about building a scratch drive array (2~4 Raptors) with a RAID card?

Best,

nina (galaxina)

[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by dankar 

1—Running CS3 PS, AI, ID, LR, FH MX, DW, FL, Nikon NX and Safari. 35.1 sec

2—100% memory, 30 history states and all programs running. 1:17.3 sec

3—5713 for geekbench, the results posted on their website.

4—1 Memory State, 0 Apps, 4GB: 27.5 sec 8GB: 27.8 sec

5—1 Memory State, Apps CS3 PS, AI, ID, LR, FH MX, DW, FL, Nikon NX and Safari, 4GB: 35.1 sec 8GB: 29.5 sec

6—30 Memory State, Apps CS3 PS, AI, ID, LR, FH MX, DW, FL, Nikon NX and Safari, 4GB: 1:17.3 sec 8GB: 1:07 sec

7—30 Memory State, Apps CS3 PS, AI, ID, LR, FH MX, DW, FL, Nikon NX and Safari
Simultaneously with all these running
NX opening 7 x Nikon D2X raw (unopen size 22mb)
CS3 AI Converting 54.2mb CMYK file (artwork size 170x66cm) to 138.1mb CMYK 200dpi PSD
4GB: 5:36.6 sec 8GB: 1:33.7 sec

Another 4GB in the pipeline for me after my next purchase of a 30" screen to compliment my 23".

Also, did you end up getting the 30"?

Thanks for your great contriburions to the thread!

[dankar]

Thanks. Waiting for and if the new apple monitor with iSight built-in does become available.

Holding all major purchases for now. Waiting for the new MacPro, will offload my old dual G5 2ghz, when Apple makes that available.

Will try to post similar test as per my last one with CS3, Tiger and 8GB. The results were based on re-start. Was disappointed with the initial runs, getting around 30-32 secs. After the sixth attempts, got the 28 sec. Was hoping 10.5 with it's better multi-threading would yield better results... wishful thinking on my part.

[Daniel Bayer]

I just read this whole thread, did the test my self. I think what we are seeing here is more of a CPU clock speed limiting factor than a RAM or scratch disk factor. If CS3 could address more ram, say up to 8GB, this would definitely change, but for now, CPU is what is holding it back from breaking the sub-25 second mark.

Mac Pro
2 x 2.66 Dual Core
16GB RAM (8 x 2GB)
X1900XT
RAPTOR 150GB 10K HD SYSTEM DISK
RAPTOR 150GB 10K HD SCRATCH
2 x 1TB WD DATA DRIVES
OS 10.5.1
PHOTOSHOP CS3.1

29 seconds fastest time with complete re-start, 1/4 history and cache, 100% RAM. Average time was 30-31 seconds.

Bring on CS3.2 and 4 GHZ!

[Samanoske]

Originally Posted by ninahagen 

Hi Samonosuke,
You are using 2 x 250GB HDs as a scratch volume, but hardware or software RAID?
What do you mean by "(not that it'll be used)?" Have you not activated the scratch volume yet?
What HD are you using for files, system & applications?
Did you set up the test right in terms of RAM, memory states and test on restart?
The reason I ask, is that you are at least 5 seconds slower than you could be (maybe more with the RAID0 scratch), and I wonder why.
Nina

Hi Nina,

I did activate the scratch volume, but it didn't seem to be touched during the test. File and system Files are on the same volume on a Raid 0 - striped Version. I think I set everything right

[stephensilva]

MacBook Pro
2.2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo Santa Rosa
2 GB RAM
NVidia GeForce 8600 GT 128mb
160 GB 5400rpm
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

Photoshop CS3 Version 10.0
Right after a restart: 50.65 seconds...will be upgrading to 4 GB of RAM this christmas so I"ll post again my improvements.

[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by stephensilva 

MacBook Pro
2.2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo Santa Rosa
2 GB RAM
NVidia GeForce 8600 GT 128mb
160 GB 5400rpm
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

Photoshop CS3 Version 10.0
Right after a restart: 50.65 seconds...will be upgrading to 4 GB of RAM this christmas so I"ll post again my improvements.

Should improve by 10 seconds with the extra RAM, about 25% improvement. Please do let us know, and thanks for posting.

[QuadG5Man]

49 secs

cs3 and 24' iMac 2.4GHz Core2Duo 4GB 320HDD

[svtcontour]

So on most machines, is CS3 faster?

[QuadG5Man]

84 sec
cs3 on a Macbook Core Duo 1.83 GHz/2GB/60gigHDD

[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by svtcontour 

So on most machines, is CS3 faster?

Generally, yes, as long as there is not a RAM bottleneck. Excepting light tasks, it is best to have 3GB dedicated RAM, that is memory you are not using. If you go through this thread, you will see folks with modern machines with plenty of RAM that saw a significant speed jump going from CS2 to CS3. There are also folks without enough RAM, who could not figure out why there modern machines were so slow. Extra RAM solved it. If you have more apps, especially hi-load ones like bit torrent, Illustrator, InDesign, etc, then, on heavier tasks you will need well beyond the 3GB that PS can address.

[ninahagen]

Is anyone lucky enough to have their new Mac Pro already along with CS3?

Would so appreciate your results for this test!

[Tesselator]

Here's mine.

Mac Pro v1.1
2 x 2.66 Quad Core (X5355 - 8 Cores total)
4GB RAM (4 x 1GB)
NVidea 7300
MaxLineIII 1TB RAID0 SYSTEM DISK (used as PS scratch)
OS 10.5.1
PHOTOSHOP CS3.0 Extended (Ver 10.0)

27 seconds fastest time without restarting and lots of BG tasks running including Safari with 12
Tabs loaded and etc. etc., With 1 history, 4 cache, and 100% RAM the average time was 29sec.
over 6 tries.

[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by Tesselator 

Here's mine.

Mac Pro v1.1
2 x 2.66 Quad Core (X5355 - 8 Cores total)
4GB RAM (4 x 1GB)
NVidea 7300
MaxLineIII 1TB RAID0 SYSTEM DISK (used as PS scratch)
OS 10.5.1
PHOTOSHOP CS3.0 Extended (Ver 10.0)

27 seconds fastest time without restarting and lots of BG tasks running including Safari with 12
Tabs loaded and etc. etc., With 1 history, 4 cache, and 100% RAM the average time was 29sec.
over 6 tries.

Thanks, tessalator. I believe that was the fastest time so far for any 1st gen MP on this thread. It must be the RAID 0 scratch array. How many discs in that array?

[cgc]

Originally Posted by Tesselator 

Here's mine.

Mac Pro v1.1
2 x 2.66 Quad Core (X5355 - 8 Cores total)
4GB RAM (4 x 1GB)
NVidea 7300
MaxLineIII 1TB RAID0 SYSTEM DISK (used as PS scratch)
OS 10.5.1
PHOTOSHOP CS3.0 Extended (Ver 10.0)

27 seconds fastest time without restarting and lots of BG tasks running including Safari with 12
Tabs loaded and etc. etc., With 1 history, 4 cache, and 100% RAM the average time was 29sec.
over 6 tries.

You should run any benchmarks with no tasks running in the background. Otherwise, the results aren't as accurate...

[Tesselator]

Originally Posted by ninahagen 

Thanks, tessalator. I believe that was the fastest time so far for any 1st gen MP on this thread. It must be the RAID 0 scratch array. How many discs in that array?

On this MP, internally, I have 3 MaxLine 350Gig drives as a RAID0 - Boot and one 1TB drive as
a Back-up/Time Machine drive.

Originally Posted by cgc 

You should run any benchmarks with no tasks running in the background. Otherwise, the results aren't as accurate...

Probably true. But I'm too lazy and I figure that there's no way it could go faster by running the
test with all the BG tasks remaining. I mean by killing them it could only get better right? So I
offer my worst time. Besides by reading through the thread I assume it won't get too much
better anyway and I like real-world tests. "Real-world" for me is with the BG processes running.

[MallyMal]

30 Seconds

Mac Pro Quad 2.8 GHz
2GB RAM
CS3

[svtcontour]

28.5 seconds

I posted before when I had 4GB and wanted to see if anything changes. Not much since 4GB is already more than this test needs. Oh well

Q6600 2.4Ghz
8GB DDR2 at 533Mhz
Nvidia 8800GT 512MB
73GB 15K drive for boot and apps
36GB 15K drive for temp and swap
Vista64 with Photoshop CS2, History 1, Cache 4, scratch set to boot drive

[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by svtcontour 

28.5 seconds

I posted before when I had 4GB and wanted to see if anything changes. Not much since 4GB is already more than this test needs. Oh well

Q6600 2.4Ghz
8GB DDR2 at 533Mhz
Nvidia 8800GT 512MB
73GB 15K drive for boot and apps
36GB 15K drive for temp and swap
Vista64 with Photoshop CS2, History 1, Cache 4, scratch set to boot drive

Yes, but I that speed figure has much more resilience when using multiple apps, multiple ops, huge files, bit torret etc.

Also, CS3 would speed you up lots.

[ninahagen]

Ahoy Mates!

Has anybody already gotten both their Mac Pro 2008 and Photoshop CS3? It would be great to see the times for this generation of Mac Pros. (unexpected pressure caused us to postpone our upgrade from the G5 Quad 2.5... should happen in the next little bit... meanwhile, would love to hear the results from a Mac Pro 2008 user).

Thanks,

nina

[MallyMal]

Originally Posted by ninahagen 

Ahoy Mates!

Has anybody already gotten both their Mac Pro 2008 and Photoshop CS3? It would be great to see the times for this generation of Mac Pros. (unexpected pressure caused us to postpone our upgrade from the G5 Quad 2.5... should happen in the next little bit... meanwhile, would love to hear the results from a Mac Pro 2008 user).

Thanks,

nina

Originally Posted by MallyMal 

30 Seconds

Mac Pro Quad 2.8 GHz
2GB RAM
CS3

Maybe you meant 8 core?

[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by MallyMal 

Maybe you meant 8 core?

Thanks Mally Mal,

Yes, I did mean the new 8-cores.

Looks like you got a pretty good time on your machine. You would really benefit from 2GB more RAM.

Thanks for your results.

nina

[Foxdog175]

23.5 seconds

Mac Pro 2 x 3.2 GHz (8 core)
4 GB RAM
Nvidia 8800GT 512MB
CS 3
Mac OS X (10.5.1)

[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by Foxdog175 

23.5 seconds

Mac Pro 2 x 3.2 GHz (8 core)
4 GB RAM
Nvidia 8800GT 512MB
CS 3
Mac OS X (10.5.1)

That is a thing of beauty.

Thanks, Foxdog!

What is your hard drive configuration?

[Foxdog175]

Originally Posted by ninahagen 

That is a thing of beauty.

Thanks, Foxdog!

What is your hard drive configuration?

It's nothing special; no RAID. It's simply two 500g internals that come standard with the new mac pros.

[aehaas]

Mac Pro 2 x 3.0 GHz (8 core)
8 GB OEM Apple RAM
Nvidia 8800GT
CS 3
Mac OS X (10.5.2)
250 G 7,200 RPM dedicated scratch for PS drive (Its empty)

34 seconds

aehaas

[grafphoto]

25 seconds

MacPro 2.8 GHz 8core (2008)
6 GB RAM (2 Apple OEM+4 GB OWC)
Nvidia 8800GT
CS 3
Mac OS X (10.5.2)
OS / Program drive: 500 GB WD stock
Scratch: 75 GB partition of Samsung 750GB F1
Fresh restart

[ninahagen]

Originally Posted by grafphoto 

25 seconds

MacPro 2.8 GHz 8core (2008)
6 GB RAM (2 Apple OEM+4 GB OWC)
Nvidia 8800GT
CS 3
Mac OS X (10.5.2)
OS / Program drive: 500 GB WD stock
Scratch: 75 GB partition of Samsung 750GB F1
Fresh restart

Thanks grafphoto...

I never thought of partitioning an HD to make a dedicated scratch drive. Though having one on a designated stripe of a RAID array has come up. I wonder which would be quicker.

[grafphoto]

Originally Posted by ninahagen 

I never thought of partitioning an HD to make a dedicated scratch drive. Though having one on a designated stripe of a RAID array has come up. I wonder which would be quicker.

Not sure on that one Nina. I have always read that having the scratch just on a separate drive has some benefit, but not sure how that compares vs. RAID.

Mark

[svtcontour]

CS3 cut my time from 28.5 to 26.5 on my 4 core box. Nice! Too bad I dont like CS3. Heck I dont even use CS2 for myself - just did it for the test. I'm still using PS6

[ninahagen]

Does anyone have one of the latest notebooks (MB, MBP, or Air)?

I'd like to compare their PS speed test results with those from the 2008 Mac Pro.

Thanks,

Nina

[SierraDragon]

Originally Posted by ninahagen 

I never thought of partitioning an HD to make a dedicated scratch drive. Though having one on a designated stripe of a RAID array has come up. I wonder which would be quicker.

Scratch ideally should be a physically separate drive from the OS/apps drive. A partition on the OS/apps drive does not provide significant benefit. However a 100-200 GB partition on a physically separate drive (or even better a RAID0 array), although not a huge benefit does make sense because the partition allows routine erasure/reformatting of the scratch partition, and allows an optimized scratch setup without dedicating an entire disk or array to scratch.

-Allen Wicks

[Kodachrome_Project]

41 seconds:

MacBook Pro 2.8 GHZ, Nvidia 9600M GT 512MB, 4 GB DDR3 / FSB 1066 Mhz / CS4 / Hitachi 320 GB / 7,200 RPM drive.

[QuadG5Man]

Originally Posted by Kodachrome_Project 

41 seconds:

MacBook Pro 2.8 GHZ, Nvidia 9600M GT 512MB, 4 GB DDR3 / FSB 1066 Mhz / CS4 / Hitachi 320 GB / 7,200 RPM drive.

For those wondering if the 2.8 is worth it, maybe that will help. LOL.

[jamil5454]

43 seconds

MacBook Pro Late 2008. 2.53 Ghz, 4GB DDR3, 320GB 5400 rpm, running on integrated 9400M. CS4

[paulmac]

Anybody compared the two versions of PS against each other on the same machine?

jamil5454, can you try your test using CS3?

[sneezymarble]

Q6600 @ 3.6GHz
GA-P35-DS3L
8GB DDR2 800MHz
8800GTX 768MB
OSX Leopard 10.5.5
Total System Cost in December 2007 = $1300 (with overnight shipping)

Photoshop Speedtest:
CS3 = 21s
CS4 = 19s

Geekbench 2:
64bit = 8093
32bit = 7126

Xbench:
323 (no disk)