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ninahagen · Apr 9, 2007, 08:36 AM

http://www.retouchartists.com/pages/speedtest.html???

It would be very useful to me, and I imagine many others here to compare speeds from this test. If you want to contribute, please, for clarity’s sake, list your time first, followed by your system in a list. Please put any comments in a paragraph after these bare bones stats, so people who just want to do a quick scan can do so. Please also make sure to close all other apps and make the proper baseline settings in Photoshop (see the Read Me download), so as to improve the consistency of the results.

ninahagen · Apr 9, 2007, 08:37 AM

14 min 58 sec (system 1)

CPU: G4 – 1Ghz (2002-3)
768 MB RAM
60 GB 7200 rpm HD
nVidia GeForce4 MX (64 MB)
CS2

ninahagen · Apr 9, 2007, 08:38 AM

1 min 5 sec (system 2)

CPU: G5 – 2.5 Ghz Quad (Dec 2005)
8 GB Ram
2 x 500 GB 7200 rpm HD
nVidia GeForce 6600 (256 MB)

davidflas · 08:36 PM

Mac Pro 2.66 1GB RAM Nvidia 7300GT CS3 Beta

3 min 03 sec.. looks like RAM is a serious bottleneck for my system

since I restarted to perform the test I had the following stats: Page ins/outs: 48736/11272

Big Mac · Apr 9, 2007, 09:20 AM

Man, your MP got reamed by the Quad 2.5.

davidflas · Apr 9, 2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

Man, your MP got reamed by the Quad 2.5.

True, but the Quad has 8x the RAM! I'm planning to drop in another 2GB of RAM soon. If I remember, I'll repost the results here, as we all know PS is a RAM hog!

mac128k-1984 · Apr 9, 2007, 10:32 AM

Plus that Photoshop is not UB yet.

I'll run this on my Macpro when I get home from work later this evening. I have 4 gig of ram so we can see if that will improve the numbers

ninahagen · 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by mac128k-1984

Photoshop is not UB yet.

A mac rumors post showed the same photoshop operation taking 4+ minutes on (non-UB) Rosetta+CS2 vs. 1+ minute on Bootcamp/Windows+CS2 (on the same mac)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about that! holy crap.

[QUOTE=davidflas;3349007looks like RAM is a serious bottleneck for my system[/QUOTE]

Given the bootcamp revelation above, if you get CS3 (UB) and drop in at least 3 more GB of RAM, you will be blazing. Just bootcamp would proably get you into the same range as the G5 quad, the extra RAM will take you well below a minute... please don't forget to post your results... look fwd to seeing just how much your new machine smokes. Apple recommends 4GB for Photoshop, but 8 will really allow you to multi-task.

Originally Posted by Big Mac

Man, your MP got reamed by the Quad 2.5.

Ouch! Mean! But kind of funny too...

Originally Posted by davidflas

True, but the Quad has 8x the RAM! I'm planning to drop in another 2GB of RAM soon. If I remember, I'll repost the results here, as we all know PS is a RAM hog!

Nothing compared to the raging RAM carnivore it will become if Adobe releases a 64-bit version to work with Leopard. (I whisper a soft prayer.)

Catfish_Man · Apr 9, 2007, 03:06 PM

Why is it at all surprising that running it natively in Windows is way faster than emulated in OSX?

Don Pickett · Apr 9, 2007, 03:08 PM

I'll tell you in a few days, when the extra 2 GB of RAM I ordered arrives.

mr. burns · Apr 9, 2007, 05:32 PM

Interesting seeing the CS2 results on a similar machine as mine.

It took 37 seconds in CS3 Beta.

Mac Pro: 2.66GHz
2GB RAM
250GB seagate drive [stock]
Radeon x1900xt

mduell · Apr 9, 2007, 05:59 PM

37 seconds in CS3 beta seems a bit slow for 4x2.66Ghz Xeon... are you running out of RAM?

The 4x2.66Ghz C2E (with 4GB RAM) scored 26 seconds in CS3 beta on Windows (source).

brokenjago · Apr 9, 2007, 06:26 PM

I tired a million different ways, but the play button in the actions palette stays grayed out. Lame!

What could be wrong?

Computer in sig, Photoshop CS3 Beta

mr. burns · 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by mduell

37 seconds in CS3 beta seems a bit slow for 4x2.66Ghz Xeon... are you running out of RAM?

The 4x2.66Ghz C2E (with 4GB RAM) scored 26 seconds in CS3 beta on Windows (source).

Beats me. I did everything they said to do. Did the test after a fresh restart with photoshop using 100% of ram. I did get 33 seconds on another try. Maybe it is the RAM, or lack thereof*shrug*

Broken. You have to open up the action and highlight the first part of the action [speed test].

mac128k-1984 · Apr 9, 2007, 07:50 PM

I ran the test and it took 55 seconds on my MacPro 2.66GHz with 4 Gig of ram.

mduell · Apr 9, 2007, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by mac128k-1984

I ran the test and it took 55 seconds on my MacPro 2.66GHz with 4 Gig of ram.

CS2 or CS3?

brokenjago · Apr 9, 2007, 08:39 PM

35(ish) seconds with Mac Pro listed in sig.

mac128k-1984 · Apr 9, 2007, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by mduell

CS2 or CS3?

Neither, CS

ninahagen · Apr 10, 2007, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Catfish_Man

Why is it at all surprising that running it natively in Windows is way faster than emulated in OSX?

What surprised me was 4x faster. (I'm still on a Power Mac Quad 2.5)

Gosh, I just can't wait for...

Leopard + a 64-bit version CS3 + a maxed Mac Pro + 4 x WD 10k rpm in RAID 0.

That should smoke any windows machine on the planet. Any guesses how fast that configuration would be with this Photoshop test?

brokenjago · Apr 10, 2007, 01:10 AM

No idea. Properly optimized? 8 cores and everything? probably like 10 seconds.

ninahagen · Apr 10, 2007, 01:26 AM

May the Prophet Steve lead us to that promised land!

ninahagen · Apr 10, 2007, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by brokenjago

35(ish) seconds with Mac Pro listed in sig.

I would love to know what your 3.0 would do with 4GB RAM. Are you planning to add any?

brokenjago · Apr 10, 2007, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by ninahagen

I would love to know what your 3.0 would do with 4GB RAM. Are you planning to add any?

Not anytime soon....

Not until I just a job

.

Originally Posted by ninahagen

May the Prophet Steve lead us to that promised land!

Unfortunately Apple has done everything it can. The ball's in Adobe's court now.

Simon · Apr 10, 2007, 03:32 AM

Interesting CS3 results:
• 4 cores @ 3.00 GHz: 35s
• 4 cores @ 2.66 GHz: 37s
(both with only 2 GB RAM though)

I'm anxious to see results with 8 cores @ 2.66 GHz. And Leopard benchmarks with that config should be even more interesting.

brokenjago · Apr 10, 2007, 04:18 AM

Note that I actually counted myself... I couldn't find a watch.

Yes. I know. But I counted very carefully!

gnomexp · Apr 10, 2007, 04:47 AM

Jesus that raped my system...

I forcequit Photoshop 5 minutes in on the Gaussian blur step. I'm running a MacBook 2GHz Core Duo with 1GB of RAM and a 23in Display.

Photoshop CS3 Extended

brokenjago · Apr 10, 2007, 04:51 AM

That shouldn't take that long on your system...

Simon · Apr 10, 2007, 07:53 AM

CS3 and 1 GB RAM? No wonder.

ninahagen · Apr 10, 2007, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by gnomexp

Jesus that raped my system...
I forcequit Photoshop 5 minutes in on the Gaussian blur step. I'm running a MacBook 2GHz Core Duo with 1GB of RAM and a 23in Display.
Photoshop CS3 Extended

Actually, if you look at my backup system, my G4 1Ghz with 768 MB RAM also got REALLY slow on the gaussian blur section. It will make it through if you wait...can you give it another try. It will be interesting to see what the 1 GB bottleneck is for CS3.
I think 3GB RAM is the max on your machine. You owe it to yourself to put in the extra 2GB. After you do it, can you run the test again and report the results... I bet it will be smoking!

mduell · Apr 10, 2007, 11:00 AM

I'm really surprised how memory sensitive this benchmark is, despite the small size of the input files.

~50% longer for 2GB vs 4GB (also a difference in OS, but that shouldn't have any impact).

hokizpokis · Apr 10, 2007, 04:03 PM

Gee, with my Quadra 700 with 40MBs of RAM and Photoshop 2.5 I can still get my work done, agreed working in OS 8.1 is a little 'crashy' at times but my 'huge' 2GB hard drive more than makes up for the 33MHz cpu bus speed with its 12ms data rate and who needs any stinkin video card with more than 2MBs video RAM anyway??

besides when Adobe goes bankrupt (can't be long nowr) I'll still beable to eat; since I've saved a tremendous amount of cash by refusing to upgrade my software and hardware, I've been able to purchase lots of toys that don't go out of style every five minutes... maybe its' time to break the piggy bank and enter the 12st century.

Dakar² · Apr 10, 2007, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by hokizpokis

the 12st century.

Classic.

slpdLoad · Apr 10, 2007, 05:02 PM

Rolling in at 8:52

CPU: G4 – 1Ghz (1.1) (PowerBook 15")
RAM: 1.0GB
HD: 80 GB 4200 rpm
ATI Radeon 9600 (64 MB)
CS

booboo · Apr 10, 2007, 05:13 PM

1m57

Photoshop CS3 beta

Mac Pro 2.66 2 GB RAM

Not great, is it?

mr. burns · Apr 10, 2007, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by booboo

1m57

Photoshop CS3 beta

Mac Pro 2.66 2 GB RAM

Not great, is it?

you did something wrong. i'm thinking maybe you forgot to set photoshop to use 100% of ram. if i'm able to get 33 seconds on the same spec system...

chris v · 11:55 PM

2 minutes, 23 seconds,

G5 Dual 2.0, 3.5 GB RAM, 250 GB single 7200 rpm drive.

CS3 Beta.

I didn't bother reetting the RAM to 100% (It's at 50% now) or restarting my machine.

------------------------------------------

Edit: Reset history states to 1, and set RAM to 100%

1 minute, 18 seconds.

Not to shabby for this obsolete dog.

dankar · Apr 11, 2007, 03:56 AM

58.4 sec

MacPro 3ghz, 4gb ram, 500gb 7200 rpm HD, CS

ninahagen · Apr 11, 2007, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by dankar

58.4 sec

MacPro 3ghz, 4gb ram, 500gb 7200 rpm HD, CS

CS Bottleneck, I think...

You would take something like 40% of your time off just going to CS3. Still that is damn good running CS+Rosetta.

Would you repost your new times after you upgrade to CS3?

jtrwallace · Apr 11, 2007, 05:41 AM

PowerBook
1.67ghz, 1.5gb ram, 80gb hd(don't know speed of internal on latest revision PB), CS3 beta

4 Minutes 26 Seconds
4:26.
I was fairly impressed considering how many extra behind the scenes type of enhancements i have running.

vertigociel · Apr 11, 2007, 12:42 PM

MBP 2.16 C2D, 2GB RAM, 1 history state, 1 Cache Level, 100% of RAM usable, fresh upon restart:
1 min 17 seconds.

Not too bad! It seems like CS3 could take more use of the dual cores, though.

tylern12345 · Apr 11, 2007, 12:49 PM

iBook G4

1.33 GHz
768 mb ram
50 gigs at 4700 rpm

29 seconds to open photoshop

davidflas · Apr 11, 2007, 01:14 PM

Here's an update to the results I posted earlier:

Mac Pro 2.66 1GB RAM 250GB Segate HD, Nvidia 7300GT CS3 Beta : 3min 3sec

Mac Pro 2.66 3GB RAM 250GB Segate HD, Nvidia 7300GT CS3 Beta : 32sec

What a difference! Its amazing how much difference RAM makes....

ninahagen · 01:27 PM

Now that must be satisfying!

Can you afford more? I would love to see what happens with 8GB. I bet you would drop another bunch. Anyway, certainly the 4th GB is important in practice.

If you add, please post again...

ajprice · 02:36 PM

This is a really interesting thread, I haven't run the test myself yet (G4 867, 1152MB RAM, CS1), but I'm thinking it would be something like the 15 minutes quoted in the first few posts. Makes me want to stump up for a Mac Pro instead of getting an iMac or MBP.

Edit: My G4 never made it past Unsharp Mask

, the Gaussian Blur locked it up, twice. From start to Unsharp mask took 4m27s though (CMYK colour took 37 seconds, some of you Mac Pro people were all done by then!), after that the mouse, clock and wristwatch cursor icon were all froze up, I gave it well over 10 minutes each time to come back, but it didn't want to play ball.

angelmb · Apr 11, 2007, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by hokizpokis

Gee, with my Quadra 700 with 40MBs of RAM and Photoshop 2.5 I can still get my work done, agreed working in OS 8.1 is a little 'crashy' at times but my 'huge' 2GB hard drive more than makes up for the 33MHz cpu bus speed with its 12ms data rate and who needs any stinkin video card with more than 2MBs video RAM anyway??

besides when Adobe goes bankrupt (can't be long nowr) I'll still beable to eat; since I've saved a tremendous amount of cash by refusing to upgrade my software and hardware, I've been able to purchase lots of toys that don't go out of style every five minutes... maybe its' time to break the piggy bank and enter the 12st century.

You made my day

Not trying to stir things up, but IMHO the more you rely on your computer, the worse a designer you are.

ninahagen · Apr 11, 2007, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by hokizpokis

maybe its' time to break the piggy bank and enter the 12st century.

It will change your life. Can you run the photoshop test on the Quadra? It would be great to see if it could handle it. It might take like 6 days though.

ninahagen · 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by angelmb

Not trying to stir things up

Yes, you are.

angelmb · Apr 11, 2007, 03:58 PM

Well, I just don't think a computer makes you a good designer… I am sick & tired of people just relying on plug-ins, actions and what not to achieve (highly questionable) good design… the best designers I have ever known are complete morons(not sure if that is the proper english word, kinda like being awkward) when it comes to computers.

ninahagen · Apr 11, 2007, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by angelmb

the more you rely on your computer, the worse a designer you are.

Uhh, duh... which way did he go George, which way did he go? Duh, dattaway!

Actually, the more you make inane pronouncements, the less sense you make.

thewocky · 07:39 PM

7 min 42 seconds

Powerboook G4 1.5Ghz
2 GB RAM
SeaGate ST9808211A (80GB, 5400RPM, 8MB buffer )
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 (128 MB)
Photoshop CS1

angelmb: Sure, a fast machine doesn't make you a good designer, and not all designers need a fast machine. But it's a powerful and incredibly useful tool in the right hands. Michelangelo did great things with marble, but if he were alive today, do you think he'd continue to work in that medium?