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Oct 12, 2022, 01:02 AM
 
Bullet Train

Borderline, but I decided not as crap. It’s pretty and colorful. The chopsocky is inventive. Some good “Japan is weird” memes. Had to explain smart toilets to my dad.

Make no mistake, it’s stupid. Like, really stupid. It’s not trying not to be stupid though.

About a half-hour too long.



     
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Oct 12, 2022, 07:08 AM
 
Agreed. Also tried for some twists that didn’t work. And a weird movie choice by Brad Pitt! Super campy tone didn’t quite work for me. Director started out making the excellent John Wick and the stellar Atomic Blonde—two stylish movies that toed a fine line of treating an inherently campy premise very seriously by serious actors while quietly winking at their own ridiculousness—but then he went way over the top for Deadpool 2 and hasn’t been able to dial that back since.
     
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Oct 12, 2022, 03:11 PM
 
That makes sense. I was trying to come up with a way to describe the tone, and “Deadpool without Deadpool” kinda captures it. Though I’m in the camp the first was better.

Now, Atomic Blonde is one of my favorite movies of all time.
     
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Oct 12, 2022, 05:08 PM
 
Has your dad seen Léon: The Professional? It’s old, but it still holds up really well.
     
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Oct 12, 2022, 05:58 PM
 
Excellent suggestion! I’m almost positive he has.

It wouldn’t hurt for me to see it again. I remember less about liking that movie than I do about hating The Fifth Element.
     
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Oct 12, 2022, 06:05 PM
 
You hate The Fifth Element? It’s such a fun goof.
     
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Oct 12, 2022, 10:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by Thorzdad View Post
Has your dad seen Léon: The Professional? It’s old, but it still holds up really well.
That's such an epic movie, one of my favorites. Natalie Portman is terrific (most people think of her as Princess Amidala, I first think of Mathilda). Jean Reno is amazing, as is Gary Oldman. The little scene where he takes the drugs right before shooting up the apartment of Mathilda's foster parents shows what great actors can do without dialog (or super minimal dialog).
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Oct 13, 2022, 01:17 AM
 
Originally Posted by Thorzdad View Post
You hate The Fifth Element? It’s such a fun goof.
I do. None of it really landed for me until Chris Tucker.
     
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Oct 13, 2022, 03:44 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I do. None of it really landed for me until Chris Tucker.
Personally, I don't hate the Fifth Element, but I didn't get hooked. The only thing I found super memorable was the Diva Dance. (I later learnt that it was meant to be unsingable by a human. Except that humans are awesome and some really talented singers have managed to sing the critical part of this hypothetical space opera.)
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Oct 13, 2022, 05:58 AM
 
I dig The Fifth Element largely for the visual power and how well it invokes a comic book aesthetic. Production design by Giraud and Mézières, costumes by Gaultier. Besson’s story is pretty solid, but doesn’t take itself all that seriously. It’s a very successful bit of world building.

It’s funny that the only piece that landed for you is Chris Tucker. I find his performance the only piece that doesn’t land solidly for me. It’s mostly because his voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me. His physical performance, though, is delightful.
     
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Oct 13, 2022, 12:51 PM
 
In a battle of OTT, gary oldman wins.
     
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Oct 13, 2022, 04:11 PM
 
In that regard, has anyone here seen Track 29?
     
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
In a battle of OTT, gary oldman wins.
Normally, this would be the case, but in The Fifth Element Tucker wiped the floor with him.

IMO, Tucker was the only part of the movie which truly delivered on the promise of how OTT it was all supposed to be.


Here’s an added unpopular opinion. Ian Holm is far less talented than people think. When he’s good, that’s because of the director. Besson wasn’t up to the task.
     
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Oct 13, 2022, 05:46 PM
 
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Here’s an unpopular opinion.
Agreed.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Oct 13, 2022, 07:05 PM
 
I’m not sure if you’re agreeing with my opinion or agreeing it’s an unpopular one.
     
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Oct 13, 2022, 07:51 PM
 
I’ve got more unpopular opinions where that came from.

Godzilla (1998)



     
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Oct 13, 2022, 08:48 PM
 
I was watching the scene from Alien where Ash malfunctions and I thought he was superb the way he physically portrayed it. I've seen that film so many times as one of my all time favourites and its one of those performances you don't notice is a performance and thats what marks its quality. You forget its an actor pretending to be an android, you're just watching an android malfunction.
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Oct 13, 2022, 09:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by Thorzdad View Post
I dig The Fifth Element largely for the visual power and how well it invokes a comic book aesthetic. Production design by Giraud and Mézières, costumes by Gaultier. Besson’s story is pretty solid, but doesn’t take itself all that seriously. It’s a very successful bit of world building.
True, and at least I really think it is a great movie, but I just don't love it. There are a few movies like that, Pulp Fiction is one. Tenet is another case, but that is closer in the “I really like it.” but not in the “I love it.” territory.
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Oct 14, 2022, 02:06 AM
 
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I was watching the scene from Alien where Ash malfunctions…
Scott is one of the directors who knows what to do with him.
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True, and at least I really think it is a great movie, but I just don't love it. There are a few movies like that, Pulp Fiction is one. Tenet is another case, but that is closer in the “I really like it.” but not in the “I love it.” territory.
I’m with you on Pulp Fiction.

I mean, it’s a good movie. I like it. It’s entertaining and funny.

It’s not tight. Reservoir Dogs is tight.
     
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Oct 14, 2022, 04:39 AM
 
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I’m with you on Pulp Fiction.

I mean, it’s a good movie. I like it. It’s entertaining and funny.
Yes, and I can see the attraction to others, the pithy lines, the settings, etc. I just don't, hmmm, love it.

My favorite Tarantino movie of all time is still Inglorious Bastards. Funny thing is that I saw the movie on a sort of date. (I realized later that it was a date … long story, stupid me.) #2 is Kill Bill.
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Oct 14, 2022, 04:53 AM
 
Kill Bill is up there. I was lukewarm on Inglorious Basterds and The Hateful Eight for whatever reason.

With the last one, still don’t quite get why he shot an indoor movie in 70MM.
     
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Oct 14, 2022, 09:21 AM
 
That bugged me since it didn't quite fit on my screen. Also it was about 2 hours too long.

My wife was mad at me for watching Once Upon a Time in Hollywood without her, I told her she hadn't missed anything. It was about 2 hours of buildup to a scene where a bunch of women get brutally and graphically beaten.
     
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Oct 14, 2022, 01:32 PM
 
Does your dad like watching comedians?
Specifically, women comedians.
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Oct 14, 2022, 05:09 PM
 
He isn’t against them in any way, but it’s the nature of the business I can rifle-off 10 male comedians he’s a big fan of.

The only female one I can name for sure is Maria Bamford, who I took him to see live.
     
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Oct 14, 2022, 05:40 PM
 
Wow. Did he like Maria? I love Maria, but she’s definitely an acquired taste. She has a couple of specials on Netlix, if he likes her.

Anyway, I was going to suggest Taylor Tomlinson’s Look at You on Netflix. I haven’t laughed so hard in ages.
     
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Oct 14, 2022, 06:07 PM
 
He did! It was a brilliant set. I was lucky enough to see both Carlin and Hicks live, and she was up there with both.

I will check out Tomlinson!
     
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Everything, Everywhere, All at Once (2022).
Saw this last night. There’s a lapse in the middle which keeps it at arms length from total brilliance, but still excellent and highly recommended.



     
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I figured you'd be interested in the editing. Cutting between a dozen stories at the same time, and somehow it all makes sense. Plus all the costume changes within the Jobu scenes. Oh, and the fight choreographers (the plug-guys) are a self-taught YouTube pair. The video/CGI editors are reportedly self-taught as well. The whole movie was done on a $25M budget.

Filming the thousand faces of alternate Evelyns must have been a chore.
     
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Oct 21, 2022, 04:31 PM
 
I'm not sure if I have caught the intent of the thread, but I think that the Long Kiss Goodnight qualifies for consideration. More quotable quotes than any movie other than The Princess Bride.
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Filming the thousand faces of alternate Evelyns must have been a chore.
The prospective horror of trying to film something like that actually took me out of the movie a bit. I started to look for time-saving tricks they were using, and plotting out rough strategies.
     
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He did! It was a brilliant set. I was lucky enough to see both Carlin and Hicks live, and she was up there with both.

I will check out Tomlinson!
She's hilarious, and especially funny to someone that grew up in a similar kind of repressed church culture.

Do we need to start a new thread to recommend comedy?
     
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She's hilarious, and especially funny to someone that grew up in a similar kind of repressed church culture.
Which my dad sorta was. Catholic though, so the flavor was different.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
She's hilarious, and especially funny to someone that grew up in a similar kind of repressed church culture.

Do we need to start a new thread to recommend comedy?
Make it so.
     
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Nov 2, 2022, 02:44 AM
 
Power of the Dog

Not to be confused with The Heart of a Dog, which isn’t a western.

Interesting as a western from a genre perspective because it’s set so late. For example, while uncommon, there are cars.

Cummerbund plays an utterly convincing American cowboy.

It’s Jane Campion, and is as brilliant as everything else of hers I’ve seen, but it’s Jane Campion, so expect to find much of it distressing.

My only criticism is either of Campion for not asking Philip Glass to do the score, or of Philip Glass for saying no.



     
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Nov 7, 2022, 05:33 PM
 
Confess, Fletch

Not brilliant, but solid. Well paced. Kind of unravels a bit near the end, but that’s an act-and-a-half later than it happens most comedies.

Jon Hamm actually is the charming rapscallion Chevy Chase imagines himself to be.



     
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Nov 26, 2022, 02:48 AM
 
Bright

Teeters on the edge, but I decided not crap. The dialogue tries for Whedon snark and lands only one out of 10. The worldbuilding asks more questions than it answers.

Wins “Best Shadowrun Movie” by default. My favorite part was the elf Fed, who does the best Wizards of the Coast art cosplay I’ve ever seen.



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On Netflix, I am currently watching and not hating Warrior Nun. Apparently, it’s based on either some comic book or YA novel or somesuch. In any case, it definitely has a YA edge about it, but not distractingly so.
     
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Nov 26, 2022, 05:48 PM
 
I liked Warrior Nun. I don't think we're likely to get a season 3 unfortunately.
Wednesday was better than I expected.
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Dec 16, 2022, 12:33 PM
 
No idea if this will be not-crap or not, but this trailer is so damn good.

     
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Intriguing trailer, liked everything but the singing and dancing near the end.

My guess: the stuff at the end is the only real content from the movie. Oh well, at least the trailer is cool.
     
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I liked those parts, though I should note I had the sound off.

Reminded me of 50s technicolor musicals, which stylistically I like a lot (even though they’re often crap movies).
     
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The 2001 parody was picture perfect.
     
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Dec 16, 2022, 11:34 PM
 
I thought it was truly brilliant.

The throwing of the doll into space is the only bump I felt in the whole ride. Perhaps it was intentional, but I felt the effect was low quality. This in startling contrast to the giant Barbie.

Still. The most minor of criticisms.
     
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I was super stoked that they did the “smashing a skull with a femur” shot, but with dolls.
     
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Have you ever seen the movie Dolls?
     
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The throwing of the doll into space is the only bump I felt in the whole ride. Perhaps it was intentional, but I felt the effect was low quality.
I thought that. Maybe a last minute job for the trailer?
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That’s what I thought, but they can always plead kitsch.
     
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Dec 19, 2022, 02:08 PM
 
The Banshees of Inisherin

This is a very funny but incredibly dark allegory for the Irish Civil War. The metaphors are very simple and easy to understand, but I had zero context, and am prejudiced by the American Civil War in terms of what to expect from such things. Needless to say, it made it hard to get what I was supposed to be taking away from it while I watched. Research was necessary afterwards.



     
 
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