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I WAS the One · Nov 6, 2006, 10:47 AM

Why the webpages build with iWeb everyone using a Mac can browse without problems in my work where they are running Windows in a bunch of PC those iWeb Websites take a loooong time to display and sometime it freeze the PC with no reason? can anyone explain me this???

ghporter · Nov 6, 2006, 11:18 AM

Can you explain a little better what you're talking about? Are you saying that iWeb pages take a long time only on PCs? What browser are they using?

Nai no Kami · Nov 6, 2006, 11:43 AM

Rendering PNGs on IE has been identified as the main cause of space-time continuum breaks.

I WAS the One · Nov 6, 2006, 11:32 PM

ok, this is the Url I made on iWeb: Click here, on any Mac I try it loads perfectly but when people try it on a PC it crash, or freeze, or it take too long to load, anyway, I want to know what is causing this? help

try it on a PC too see what I'm telling you... because on a Mac it will load perfect.

besson3c · Nov 6, 2006, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by I WAS the One

ok, this is the Url I made on iWeb: Click here, on any Mac I try it loads perfectly but when people try it on a PC it crash, or freeze, or it take too long to load, anyway, I want to know what is causing this? help

try it on a PC too see what I'm telling you... because on a Mac it will load perfect.

What browser? The fact they are trying it on a Windows machine is nearly irrelevant. What is relevant is the browser being used.

Macola · Nov 7, 2006, 10:45 AM

Assuming they're using IE, it's most likely because your graphics are PNGs...this is what iWeb does by default. It also generates horribly bloated xHTML, but that's another story...

Big Mac · Nov 7, 2006, 10:49 AM

I guess it's Apple's Front Page then.

Chuckit · Nov 7, 2006, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Macola

Assuming they're using IE, it's most likely because your graphics are PNGs...this is what iWeb does by default. It also generates horribly bloated xHTML, but that's another story...

PNGs will render incorrectly in IE, but they don't normally cause it to crash. Maybe it's some really bad old version?

The HTML isn't that bad either, as machine-generated HTML goes.

ghporter · Nov 7, 2006, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

I guess it's Apple's Front Page then.

--shudder!!!!--

Macola · Nov 7, 2006, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

The HTML isn't that bad either, as machine-generated HTML goes.

Lots of unnecessary attributes for styles, and using inline styles so that style definitions are repeated a bazillion times on a page? I'd call that bloat.

Maybe v 2.0 will finally use an external style sheet...

ghporter · Nov 7, 2006, 08:21 PM

I know a couple of web authors that only agree on one thing: using anything other than Dreamweaver (they're Windows guys) or hand written HTML is guaranteed to product a lot of unnecessary crud in the file. I haven't played with iWeb, but I have played with FrontPage. It's disgusting. Do anything but straight text (like tables, for example) and the file balloons enormously. And the extra stuff is like Macola says-full of style definitions and such that are redundant or proprietary or (often) both.

I WAS the One · Nov 7, 2006, 09:16 PM

but can I just save all the pngs in Jpegs, inside the web ftp folder? or that is just maniac?

I don't know how to build a webpage in other app, for real, I have a really good design freedom with iWeb, but it's a bummer the way people tell me about the slow loading and crashes... I just want to get that page running without problems... anyone got an idea?

ghporter · Nov 7, 2006, 10:43 PM

There should be an option for how you want the graphics files handled-PNG, JPG, whatever. I think PNG is just the default.

ewiser · Nov 8, 2006, 06:22 AM

just tried the page with IE 6 windows it loaded just fine.

Macola · 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by I WAS the One

but can I just save all the pngs in Jpegs, inside the web ftp folder?

iWeb 1.0 saved everything as PNG. The updates (1.0.x) changed that behavior but if you created your site in iWeb 1.0, you have to republish all pages (hold down the option key and select Publish All to .Mac from the File menu). This will only work with .Mac. Also, any graphics that have transparency (like the mirror effect) will still be PNGs, obviously.

I WAS the One · Nov 9, 2006, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Macola

iWeb 1.0 saved everything as PNG. The updates (1.0.x) changed that behavior but if you created your site in iWeb 1.0, you have to republish all pages (hold down the option key and select Publish All to .Mac from the File menu). This will only work with .Mac. Also, any graphics that have transparency (like the mirror effect) will still be PNGs, obviously.

Thanx

but I will be with .Mac 'til february. (that's when my membership end) Because it block my page just because I got too much visits! believe it or not! now I'm hosting my iWebpage with fatcow... a little slow, but a better option for the same price! so, it can be done just with .Mac??? why?

Dillon-K · Nov 12, 2006, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

I guess it's Apple's Front Page then.

Haha! Nice. It's Apple's Frontpage but eleventy-billion times prettier.

I WAS the One · Nov 12, 2006, 06:53 PM

hey, I will upload all the website again using jpgs instead of PNGs, lets see what happens then....

ghporter · Nov 12, 2006, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dillon-K

Haha! Nice. It's Apple's Frontpage but eleventy-billion times prettier.

Isn't pretty poo still poo? Writing a web page with anything that creates such crap is still writing crap...s

I WAS the One · Nov 13, 2006, 08:47 AM

you mean that iWeb its crap??? I don't think so.

Macola · Nov 13, 2006, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by I WAS the One

you mean that iWeb its crap??? I don't think so.

Depends on how you look at it. I think ghporter is on target; however, since iWeb is aimed at the average user creating a personal web page, they will probably never know the difference.

PurpleGiant · Nov 13, 2006, 11:31 PM

Page loads fine in IE/Win and Firefox/Win here.

I WAS the One · Nov 14, 2006, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by PurpleGiant

Page loads fine in IE/Win and Firefox/Win here.

did you browse or click a link or something?? because I still get bad response out here, and I try it at my work, and it loads faster than before but still slow...

ewiser · Nov 14, 2006, 06:20 AM

Just tried this site with IE7 it worked just fine. looked at all the sections rendered just fine.

PurpleGiant · Nov 14, 2006, 06:21 AM

I just copied your link and pasted it into IE or Firefox inside Parallels. Not only did it load quickly/normal speed it also looks exactly the same as in Safari for me. Just a standard IE 6 install that comes with XP.