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Far Right: The Return of the Nazis?
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Nov 1, 2004, 01:52 PM
 
German right wing parties, hot from recent election victories, say they are going to team up for 2006 federal elections. Research indicates up to 20 percent of the population has latent right-wing tendencies. Is Germany slipping back to the past?

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/inte...323122,00.html

The scene: Germany. Almost 5 million people are unemployed. The economy is stagnant. A dissatisfied population protests against a bumbling government while collective self esteem tumbles.

Camera moves over to the xenophobic and anti-Semitic leader of a far right party who lauds Adolf Hitler as a "great statesman."

Time? Germany, 1931?
Wrong.
This is Germany in 2004.

The party leader is Udo Voigt, head of the extreme right-wing National Democratic Party, and one of the big winners in September parliamentary elections in the state of Saxony.

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"We carry our past with us," Wolfgang Wippermann, a political scientist at Berlin's Free University and an expert in far right parties, told SPIEGEL ONLINE. "There is a tendency to dismiss victories when they are small. But remember, in 1928, the National Socialists had 2.6 percent of the vote." By 1933 they were in power.

The NPD is not the only extreme party gaining in Germany. The anti-foreigner, anti-immigrant Democratic People's Union also won a parliamentary victory in the state of Brandenburg, outside of Berlin, winning six of 88 seats. Now, the two parties say they are planning to team up for the 2006 federal elections. If they manage to team up -- that is, keep their party-leaders' notorious dislike for each other in check -- they could have a chance to gain representation in the Bundestag, Germany's parliament. It would be the first time since World War II that far right parties held federal office.

One of the biggest fears is that they could capitalize on high unemployment rates, a stagnant economy and general discontent to gain votes. "It's terrible to think about, but they have a chance to get up to 20 percent of the vote," Wippermann said, citing research statistics that show 20 percent of Germans latently support right wing platforms. "There is tremendous potential for this in our population." Indeed, a Forsa Institute poll shows that 60 years after World War II, one in five Germans remains latently anti-Semitic. The statistics also show 40 percent of Germans to be anti-foreigner (particularly anti-Turkish) and 64-68 percent to be anti Gypsy. While such attitudes don't necessarily translate into right-wing votes, they are disturbing -- and potentially election-altering.

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Nov 1, 2004, 04:27 PM
 
SPIEGEL ONLINE.

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Nov 1, 2004, 04:59 PM
 
Hey, the peaceful German people are against the Iraq war, but they obviously have other more important things on their mind, such as getting back to the glory days of the Third Reich. They must also miss wearing those gay looking shorts that the Hitler Jugend used to parade around in back in the day..

20 % ? Hmmm.
     
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Nov 1, 2004, 05:11 PM
 
That's a disturbing trend. Why is that Germans resort to such extreme fascism when their economy turns down? It's a bit disconcerting, having to go over there and stomp down their regimes every few decades.
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Nov 1, 2004, 05:17 PM
 
Originally posted by MacNStein:
That's a disturbing trend. Why is that Germans resort to such extreme fascism when their economy turns down? It's a bit disconcerting, having to go over there and stomp down their regimes every few decades.
We're busy with the Jihadist morons for a few years now, but when we're done with them, I suppose we can go teach the German Fascists a lesson or two if needed.
     
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Nov 1, 2004, 05:35 PM
 

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Nov 4, 2004, 03:55 PM
 
Originally posted by PacHead:
We're busy with the Jihadist morons for a few years now, but when we're done with them, I suppose we can go teach the German Fascists a lesson or two if needed.
And what would this lessen be then? Maybe this one?

Originally posted by PacHead:
All Gitmo detainees need to be tried, and just get the thing over with already, so we can just gas them, and improve the human genepool ratio with a small fraction of a percent.

Quite a few of the Gitmo people who have been let free have gone right back to their wacko jihad, terrorist life. A huge mistake to release any of those animals in Gitmo.
     
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Nov 4, 2004, 04:15 PM
 
I saw that on TV (about Germany). The look alone of those guys is scary. Real skinheads and saying in public that Hitler was a wonderful leader. He was good leader, granted aren't a lot of people who can do what he did but saying such things is just..nuts.

It's the same over here. I'm really fearing that the Vlaams Blok will be the largest party in Flanders the next elections (these retards want to see Belgium crack in 2!). If if ever comes that far I'm moving away from here. It all gets sadder by the day.
     
   
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