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Well, I'm on a Windows PC at Uni, but someone on Ars says it's now on Software update.
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The 10.3.6 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.3 "Panther" and is recommended for all users.
Key enhancements include: - improved file sharing for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS) and PC (SMB/CIFS) networks
- more reliable network automounts and launch of network applications
- improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphic drivers
- additional FireWire audio and USB device compatibility
- updated Calculator, DVD Player, Image Capture, and Safari applications
- improved compatibility for third party applications
- previous standalone security updates
For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n300080
For detailed information on Security Updates, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798
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Indeed it is...downloading now.
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Lets go easy on the "Downloading now" posts.
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Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Lets go easy on the "Downloading now" posts.
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Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Lets go easy on the "Downloading now" posts.
Downloaded, Installed, No Problems.
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Does this include Safari 1.3?
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Hey SWG I'm downloading it now!
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Originally posted by bmedina:
Does this include Safari 1.3?
Nope...in fact, it's essentially killed 1.3. I can't use it anymore after updating and I'm not sure how I'm supposed to install whatever version 10.3.6 comes with.
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Originally posted by PurpleGiant:
Hey SWG I'm downloading it now!
Please, tell me more about the download experience. Is it everything you hoped for? Is the progress bar making you moist?
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I'll sit back and relax, hear what people say and if there are no problems I'll be a doing a backup and install it. The first time I'm not downloading some update right away. I don't want to ruin my freeze free system.
PS: is it normal that it's only 14MB ?
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About Safari say it's 1.2.4 (v125.11)
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Originally posted by bmedina:
Does this include Safari 1.3?
Nope, 1.2.4.
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installed it. safari is 1.2.4.
besides apple ruining my 6 day uptime (sorry, i had to ) everything seems fine. no immediate problems.
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Originally posted by Briareus:
About Safari say it's 1.2.4 (v125.11)
Anything new you notice?
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Wow, I hope this was just me, but I just fired up software update and was in the middle of updating, and while browsing in the middle of the update, I got a kernal panic.
After rebooting, everything seems fine, and about this mac and about safari both show the update worked.
I am a little scared though.
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Apple insider reported that 10.3.6 is going to kill Safari 1.3 DP. Nothing shocking. But the question is does one want to forfeit the Safari 1.3 for any apparent UI speed enhancements?
Im going to say it... um.. is it... um.. snappier???
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How does one go about making the OS believe it wasn't updated to 10.3.6? I need to redownload the whole thing to install Safari 1.2.6.
Where can the standalone installs be downloaded?
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Originally posted by Fusion:
Wow, I hope this was just me, but I just fired up software update and was in the middle of updating, and while browsing in the middle of the update, I got a kernal panic.
After rebooting, everything seems fine, and about this mac and about safari both show the update worked.
I am a little scared though.
Was it still updating or was it during the prebinding ? If it was during the update itself I would be scared.
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Originally posted by manofsteal:
Anything new you notice?
Other then the version number no.
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How's game performance with the new drivers and OpenGL?
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Originally posted by tkmd:
Apple insider reported that 10.3.6 is going to kill Safari 1.3 DP. Nothing shocking. But the question is does one want to forfeit the Safari 1.3 for any apparent UI speed enhancements?
Im going to say it... um.. is it... um.. snappier???
Safari 1.3 DP and 10.3.6 DON'T play well together at all. I had nothing but problems with it.
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I just installed and also , whilst browsing during software update, had KP. More than slightly worried by this!. I think that installation was completed, and optimization was around 60% there... Restarted and so far everything is OK. 10.3.6 showed up....
We will see....
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Originally posted by SafariX:
Please, tell me more about the download experience. Is it everything you hoped for? Is the progress bar making you moist?
Oh man, it's great. I took some screenshots for those interested:
Number 1
Number 2
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Well seeing that I'm running safari DP 1.3 (v146) I'm going to wait.
For one, I wonder if the speed improvements that are in 1.3 made it into 1.2.4 (some how I doubt they are). I would think that 1.2.4 (v125.11) is a big step down from 1.3 (v146).
So unless someone can find a work around then I'm sticking with 10.3.5.
BTW, has anyone maybe tried removing safari 1.3 from the applications folder before doing the 10.3.6 update?
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The stuff about improving OpenGL is mainly about fixing a large number of bugs with using the nVidia Geforce 5200, mainly on large LCDs, because the function NV_register_combine2 is broken in 10.3.5. This is the reason HW2 runs so bad on the new iMac. Downloading now (sorry, couldn't resist), interested to see what the real performance of the 5200U is.
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Originally posted by akuma-x:
BTW, has anyone maybe tried removing safari 1.3 from the applications folder before doing the 10.3.6 update?
Yes, I have with the developer seeds and I had no luck in keeping 1.3 and had much trouble getting the 1.2.3 working correctly after I had removed 1.3
I can only assume that some of the webcore frameworks had changed.
In fact, 1.3 hosed my cube at work and no version of Safari would work after that. My only recovery was an archive and install, combo up to 10.3.5 and work with the newest seeds.
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After installing all I got was THIS!
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what i've noticed so far...
nothing died.
about this mac says: 10.3.6
my haxies work (shapeshifter, cleardock, detour)
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nothing died.
not a bad update!
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Originally posted by hagheid:
After installing all I got was THIS!
ha ha, neat.
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Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
Was it still updating or was it during the prebinding ? If it was during the update itself I would be scared.
To be honest, I am not quite sure where it was. I was browsing at the time and Software Update was in the background. What was weird was that I had checked it 30 seconds before that and it was only at 20 percent downloading, not even installing yet. Then 30 seconds later, I get the kernal panic. I wasn't too worried about it because I figured it hadn't even had time to download yet, let alone install. But then after the restart I noticed that it said it had been updated, so yeah, I am a little worried about it.
djp - thanks for coming into the discussion. It is a little more relieving to hear that it happened to someone else as well. Everything on my machine seems fine as well so far, so I'll just keep a close eye on everything.
Anyone else with the same kernal panic?
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Originally posted by akuma-x:
Well seeing that I'm running safari DP 1.3 (v146) I'm going to wait.
For one, I wonder if the speed improvements that are in 1.3 made it into 1.2.4 (some how I doubt they are). I would think that 1.2.4 (v125.11) is a big step down from 1.3 (v146).
So unless someone can find a work around then I'm sticking with 10.3.5.
DISCLAIMER: I am not accusing akuma-x of piracy (he may be a developer with legitimate access to seeds), but I do know that many people WITHOUT legitimate access to developer seeds have still acquired 1.3 DP by other means, and this is addressed to those people in general.
This is why it is wrong to use something you're not entitled to access. "It's free so I'm entitled to prerelease software whether I'm 'legally allowed' or not," is NOT a valid excuse.
For whatever reason, Apple has either decided not to release a Safari 1.3, OR decided to roll SOME of the improvements into 1.2.x over time.
I'm already hearing people *blame Apple* for not "allowing" you to install 10.3.6 on top of Safari DP 1.3. If you had used the software correctly (as a "test version" as was intended), you wouldn't be having these problems. It's not Apple's fault that you didn't use the software properly.
For those of you who installed 1.3 without *legitimate* developer access, and now have trouble with Safari after installing 10.3.6, you got what you deserve (and only you know who you are). For those of you with legitimate developer access and have installed 1.3 on their day-to-day copy of the OS (instead of a test copy), shame on you. Those of you with legitimate access to 1.3 and who have installed it on a test copy of the OS will not have any of these problems.
Also, who is to say that Apple didn't pull 1.3 because of the leaks? That may seem pretty childish to do so, but they're well within their rights to do it. In that case, "what's the harm in using the prerelease version of free software," means that the harm is that EVERYBODY loses when Apple decides not to release the software in question instead preferring to wait until 2.0 (in OS X 10.4) to release the software.
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Well IMO Apple needs to get Safari 1.3 out the door officially ASAP. It supposedly has a significant speed boost (can't say this firsthand since I haven't used it yet) and in light of Firefox and Camino both having a noticeably faster rendering speed I think it would a good idea to remain competitive in this area.
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"To be honest, I am not quite sure where it was. I was browsing at the time and Software Update was in the background. What was weird was that I had checked it 30 seconds before that and it was only at 20 percent downloading, not even installing yet. Then 30 seconds later, I get the kernal panic. I wasn't too worried about it because I figured it hadn't even had time to download yet, let alone install. But then after the restart I noticed that it said it had been updated, so yeah, I am a little worried about it.
djp - thanks for coming into the discussion. It is a little more relieving to hear that it happened to someone else as well. Everything on my machine seems fine as well so far, so I'll just keep a close eye on everything.
Anyone else with the same kernal panic?"
my internet connection went down when i was downloading 10.3.5 (whenever that had come out).
hosed my os.
did an archive & install, but...some iApps (itunes, etc) wouldn't open.
so...wiped the drive, and redid everything.
yikes!
if you're okay (about this mac says 10.3.6)...be happy!
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Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
I'll sit back and relax, hear what people say and if there are no problems I'll be a doing a backup and install it. The first time I'm not downloading some update right away. I don't want to ruin my freeze free system.
PS: is it normal that it's only 14MB ?
On my PowerBook it was 14MB but on the iMac G5 it was over 34MB.
I believe that software update now selects a version for your machine rather than a version that will work on all machines. Maybe it's related to the size of graphics drivers, etc.
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If any one running safari 1.3 would like to install 10.3.6 here is how....
Go to www.apple.com/safari , download and install safari 1.2.
Reboot, then run SW update and install 10.3.6.
You will be good to go running 10.3.6 with safari 1.2.4.
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Ok. Dealbreaker (good) for me was that...
Safari 1.2.4 fixes eBay.
Let me repeat that. The errors that have been constantly crashing ebay are fixed.
Wonderful. I can finally use my mac to do ebay-related work agian.
That was a long time. Well worth abandoning 1.3, which, by the way, seems to have cost nothing in terms of speed.
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I came over all wobbly making this decision
damn...guess it's conditioning, but i've been stuck clicking on the "agree' button on that image in your post for 15 minutes...
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Is anyone else's calculator broken?
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Originally posted by poocat:
Ok. Dealbreaker (good) for me was that...
Safari 1.2.4 fixes eBay.
Let me repeat that. The errors that have been constantly crashing ebay are fixed.
Wonderful. I can finally use my mac to do ebay-related work agian.
That was a long time. Well worth abandoning 1.3, which, by the way, seems to have cost nothing in terms of speed.
pc.
Did you try any other browsers (like Camino or Firefox) with eBay? I'd think that the issue would only have been Safari-specific, the way you describe it.
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