[Demonhood]

http://www.nationstates.net

have a bit of fun: torture your population, be benevolent, curb crime, etc..

so far my government is rated as:
Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Good
Political Freedoms: Superb

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
so far my government is rated as:
Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Good
Political Freedoms: Superb

MacNN doesn't reflect that.

[Abu Bakr]

Great find!

Just started my own nation. Will see how it develops.

[rjenkinson]

8/29: 2nd in the world for most compassionate.
9/3: 2nd in the world for nicest citizens.
9/18: 131st in the world for lowest crime rate.
10/1: 29th in the world for happiest citizens.
10/19: 7th in the world for most devout nation.
10/30: 113672nd in the world for rudest citizens.
11/2: 179th in the world for safest nation.
11/9: 1774th in the world for smartest citizens.
11/11: 29th in the world for most cultured.
11/12: 117th in the world for best weather.

i will crush you all.

-r.

[Zimphire]

"The Most Serene Republic of Painful Boils"

I can't imagine anyone being happy there hood.

And a 22% percent tax ?

[Toutgood]

The Rogue Nation of Unruly Adolescents

This looks like fun.

[Abu Bakr]

I forgot. Here's mine

Theocracy of Saladhin

[lil'babykitten]

The People's Republic of Kittenstine

[Zimphire]

These 40-50% tax rates crack me up.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
http://www.nationstates.net

have a bit of fun: torture your population, be benevolent, curb crime, etc..

so far my government is rated as:
Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Good
Political Freedoms: Superb

Mine:

The Theocracy of Crowley the Thelemite
"Love is the Law, Love Under Will."


Civil Rights: Excessive

Economy: Good

Political Freedoms: Superb


Looks fun. I'll try it out for a week and see how it goes.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
"The Most Serene Republic of Painful Boils"

I can't imagine anyone being happy there hood.

And a 22% percent tax ?

Mine's only 26%, not bad.

My summary:

"The Theocracy of Crowley the Thelemite is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its compassionate, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million hold their civil and political rights very dear, although the wealthy and those in business tend to be viewed with suspicion.

The enormous, liberal government is mainly concerned with Religion & Spirituality, although Healthcare and Social Welfare are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 26%. A large private sector is led by the Beef-Based Agriculture industry, followed by Cheese Exports and Information Technology.

Crime is a problem, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. Crowley the Thelemite's national animal is the goat and its currency is the Sephirah."

[Joshua]

The Most Serene Republic of Jumblies

I played this for awhile last year. It does get a bit repetitive after awhile, but it's fun.

[MacGorilla]

The Republic Of Urthistan
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/...tion=urthistan

[Demonhood]

sweet, i'm up to:

Civil Rights: World Benchmark
Economy: Good
Political Freedoms: Excellent

Painful Boils is ranked 3458th in the region and 61,705th in the world for Most Rebellious Youth.

Painful Boils's children are widely acknowledged as the most foul-mouthed in the region...

[spauldingg]

Agitation Nation

Voting is voluntary and euthanasia is legal. Crime is well under control, thanks to a well-funded police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Agitation Nation's national animal is the toy emu, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests

Agitation Nation is ranked 3825th in the region and 50,403rd in the world for Most Rebellious Youth.

[moodymonster]

The Dictatorship of Red Ferret

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/...ion=red_ferret

income tax 8%! yay!

UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Strong
Political Freedoms: Very Good

debating compulsory voting, cause if you don't vote you get morons in charge.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by moodymonster:
debating compulsory voting, cause if you don't vote you get morons in charge.

Hmm... that is probably what happened in 92.

Less people voted then than this last one.

[Shaddim]

I've learned something about this game, sometimes it's better to ignore certain issues.

[Dakar]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
I've learned something about this game, sometimes it's better to ignore certain issues.

I learned that later on too. However I find the repercussions of your decisions a little drastic or extreme.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Dakar:
I learned that later on too. However I find the repercussions of your decisions a little drastic or extreme.

that's what I'm talking about. For issues that you want to decline, it's best to give them a "desk veto"... you just ignore them and the issue gets taken care of without seemingly giving the issue an official thumbs down. It seems to make the results less drastic.

ie. I recently had a cloning issue I come up. I simply dismissed it instead of voting it up or down. That way my medical rating and public health doesn't take a hit (the research can go forward), without giving the corporations carte blanche to do any kind of experimentation they want.

[Mac Guru]

The Armed Republic of Right Wing Nutcases

Civil Rights: Good

Economy: Thriving

Political Freedoms: Superb

Citizens pay a flat income tax of 3%

Mac Guru

[Kilbey]

The United States of Kilbieism
"With beer anything is possible"

UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Civil Rights:Very Good
Economy:Strong
Political Freedoms:Excellent

19% tax rate.

[Joshua]

The Most Serene Republic of Jumblies

UN Category: Anarchy

Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Powerhouse
Political Freedoms: World Benchmark

There is no government in the normal sense the word; however, a small group of community-minded, corrupt, pro-business individuals is effectively ruled by the Department of Commerce, with areas such as Social Welfare and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Automobile Manufacturing industry, followed by Basket Weaving and Cheese Exports.

Sounds like heaven.

[Lefterer Guy]

The Republic of Scienistan
"Ethics?"

UN Category: Democratic Socialists

Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Reasonable
Political Freedoms: Good

The Republic of Scienistan is a small, safe nation, remarkable for its devotion to social welfare. Its hard-nosed population of 10 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.

The large government devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Religion & Spirituality and Law & Order receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 27%, but much higher for the wealthy. A substantial private sector is led by the Cheese Exports industry, followed by Retail and Beef-Based Agriculture.

The tenet of free speech is held dear, the government is avowedly atheist, scientists regularly clone human beings for research purposes, and military spending is on the increase. Crime is well under control. Scienistan's national animal is the lab rat and its currency is the serial.

[Dakar]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
that's what I'm talking about. For issues that you want to decline, it's best to give them a "desk veto"... you just ignore them and the issue gets taken care of without seemingly giving the issue an official thumbs down. It seems to make the results less drastic.

ie. I recently had a cloning issue I come up. I simply dismissed it instead of voting it up or down. That way my medical rating and public health doesn't take a hit (the research can go forward), without giving the corporations carte blanche to do any kind of experimentation they want.

The particular instance I'm thiking of was a police funding issue came up as second time. The previous time I approved an increase and I had little to no crime.

This issue was again asking for an increase, so I vetoed it (They didn't need funding). The next day when I logged in crime was running rampant because funding had been cut.

I never cut funding, I merely didn't increase it.
That's crappy in my book.

[Sherwin]

The Holy Empire of Stookie

UN Category: Compulsory Consumerist State

Civil Rights: Below Average
Economy: Strong
Political Freedoms: Rare
Tax: Flat 14%

[itai195]

Neat. Who cares about civil rights when you have free cookies?

The Holy Empire of Free Cookies
"C is for Cookie"

UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Strong
Political Freedoms: Very Good
Location: The North Pacific

The Republic of Free Cookies is a tiny, pleasant nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

The large government is mainly concerned with Social Welfare, although Healthcare and Education are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 20%. A large private sector is led by the Woodchip Exports industry, followed by Uranium Mining and Information Technology.

Crime -- especially youth-related -- is relatively low. Free Cookies's national animal is the hampster and its currency is the macaroon.

[Shaddim]

Mmmm... macaroons...

[itai195]

Do we have a MacNN region?

[paully dub]

The Free Land of Love and Kisses

UN Category: Liberal Democratic Socialists
Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Basket Case
Political Freedoms: World Benchmark
Location: The South Pacific

The Free Land of Love And Kisses is a tiny, safe nation, remarkable for its absence of drug laws. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 5 million love a good election, and the government gives them plenty of them. Universities tend to be full of students debating the merits of various civil and political rights, while businesses are tightly regulated and the wealthy viewed with suspicion.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 64%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Trout Farming.

Crime is totally unknown. Love And Kisses's national animal is the whitetailed jackrabbit, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the token of affection.


Who needs riches when everyone's happy?

[rjenkinson]

my nation was just ranked #1 in the world for most compassionate!

-r.

[CreepingDeth]

The Republic of Solvo Res Publica
"Iunctus Pro Licentia Quod Prosperitas"



Civil Rights: Few
Economy: Powerhouse
Political Freedoms: Superb

Location: The East Pacific

The Republic of Solvo Res Publica is a tiny, economically powerful nation, remarkable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million are free to succeed or fail in life on their own merits; the successful tend to enjoy an opulent (but moralistic) lifestyle, while the failures can be seen crowding out most jails.

The minute, pro-business government, or what there is of one, concentrates mainly on Law & Order, although Commerce and Religion & Spirituality are on the agenda. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Information Technology, Cheese Exports, and Trout Farming industries.

Crime is a major problem. Solvo Res Publica's national animal is the eagle, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the leben.

I'm liking mine so far. I got a "few" on civil rights because I said no on marajuana.

[Millennium]

The Republic of Stongbah
"The heaviest needs are those of the one."

UN Category: Corporate Bordello
Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Strong
Political Freedoms: Superb
Location: The New Meritocracy

The Republic of Stongbah is a large, devout nation, notable for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 29 million are effectively ruled by a group of massive corporations, who run for political office and provide their well-off citizens with world-class goods and services. Their poorer citizens, however, are mostly starving to death while being urged to go out and get real jobs. The populace has reasonably extensive civil rights, although these are mostly aimed at allowing them to buy whatever they like.

The small, pro-business government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Religion & Spirituality, and Education. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Book Publishing, Automobile Manufacturing, and Soda Sales industries.

The death penalty has been reintroduced, Stongbah's children are widely acknowledged as the most foul-mouthed in the region, bicyclists are banned from major roads, and euthanasia is illegal. Crime is pervasive. Stongbah's national animal is the sterrance and its currency is the compy.

Stongbah is ranked 55th in the region and 94,513th in the world for Most Compassionate Citizens.

I'm not entirely sure I like the system; it tends to grossly oversimplify the issues. For example, it notes Religion and Spirituality as a key governmental role based on my agreement with the phrase that spirituality was important in a people, without actually asking if I wanted the government to interfere in religious matters (which I do not). I can only hope that the issues coming up will allow me to eventually rectify this.

As another case, I note my issue for the day:

Stongbah Decides:
Animal Liberation Front Strikes Again
The Issue
The increasingly militant Animal Liberation Front struck again last night, freeing dozens of chickens bound for delicious snack packs.
The Debate

1. "These nuts have got to be stopped," demands concerned consumer Randy Bush. "They need to face the fact people want snack packs, no matter how many innocent chickens must be sacrificed. Besides, chickens would do the same to us if they had the chance."

This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.

2. "These Liberationists are highlighting an important issue," pleads Johann Johnson. "Too often, animals are put through needless cruelty, just to make their flesh taste a little more deliciously succulent. I'm sure we could ban the more horrific abuses without putting too much of a dent in our national obesity figures. Couldn't we?"

3. "Animals have feelings too!" yelled protestor Max Bush, before being set upon by hungry passers-by. "Free the animals! Ban meat-eating!"

4. Economist Jazz McAlpin has an alternative. "You don't need to take away the people's right to choose. You just need to build the costs of animal suffering into the price. A tax on meat-eating, in proportion to the amount of cruelty involved, would do the trick. Plus think of the benefit for the national coffers! Of course, poor people wouldn't be able to afford meat, but that's just more incentive for them to get jobs."

Only the first option addresses the immediate issue, namely the vandalism committed on the lab; the others deal with the peripheral issue (which is irrelevant in the face of the crime committed). I'd have chosen Option 2 if it had anything whatsoever to deal with the vandals, but as it stands I have no choice but to view Option 1 as the one to take, because it deals with the matter at hand rather than indulge in the ivory-towerism of the other three.

[Demonhood]

as others have said, i just end up dismissing a lot of issues because of the choices i'm presented with.

[MacGorilla]

Some of them are certainly no win. I don't get paid the big bucks to make those decisions.

[Millennium]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
as others have said, i just end up dismissing a lot of issues because of the choices i'm presented with.

I try to at least go with the end goal I agree with, if not the rationale used to get there. It sounds very much like many of these were written by someone who wasn't even trying to understand viewpoints other than his own.

[Mithras]

Originally posted by Millennium:
I'm not entirely sure I like the system; it tends to grossly oversimplify the issues.

I think this assessment could be readily applied to our own system... even for the "religion in government" issue in particular...

[roberto blanco]

Originally posted by paully dub:
Who needs riches when everyone's happy?

greetings from:

the free land of hedonorum

Location: The North Pacific

The Free Land of Hedonorum is a tiny, safe nation, remarkable for its strong anti-business politics. Its compassionate population of 5 million enjoy extensive civil rights and enjoy a level of social equality free from the usual accompanying government corruption.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, liberal, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it concentrates mainly on Social Welfare, although Healthcare and Education are secondary priorities. The average income tax rate is 62%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Retail.

Crime is totally unknown. Hedonorum's national animal is the little little cutie, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the bling bling.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by roberto blanco:


greetings from:

the free land of hedonorum

Location: The North Pacific

The Free Land of Hedonorum is a tiny, safe nation, remarkable for its strong anti-business politics. Its compassionate population of 5 million enjoy extensive civil rights and enjoy a level of social equality free from the usual accompanying government corruption.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, liberal, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it concentrates mainly on Social Welfare, although Healthcare and Education are secondary priorities. The average income tax rate is 62%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Retail.

Crime is totally unknown. Hedonorum's national animal is the little little cutie, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the bling bling.

Ahhh, it's like Karl Marx's son made that.
It's wonderful when you're practically a slave to a group of elites and private enterprise, and I assume private property, is controlled. How wonderful. If everything belongs to everyone, where can crime exist? I see your economy is piss-poor and your political freedoms are mediocre. Let's hope your Leninist utopia suceeds (we all know how that turns out). Those nationalized industries are really going to propell you into a spot at the top.

62% tax rate avg.�Dear lord, how is that possible?

[roberto blanco]

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:
Ahhh, it's like Karl Marx's son made that.

what's even funnier though, is that your model describes a fascist state to a 't'.

so how's the new 'wehrmacht' coming along there adolf, jr.?

oh...i forgot. hitler was a leftist...








BWAWAWAAWWAAAHHAA

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by roberto blanco:
what's even funnier though, is that your model describes a fascist state to a 't'.

so how's the new 'wehrmacht' coming along there adolf, jr.?

oh...i forgot. hitler was a leftist...

Troll Meister. What is an intellectually lazy man doing on these boards?
My economy's doing well and there's good political freedom.
You see robby, not everything works out into these neat little dichotomies.

[Edit]: Oh yeah, on a side not, calling me a) German (I'm English/Italinan) and b) Hitler is not something someone intellgient would do. But considering the source�

[roberto blanco]

What is an intellectually lazy man doing on these boards?

hey, you tell me.

My economy's doing well and there's good political freedom.

yeah, and you have virtually no civil liberties (LOL), - sounds like a a fascist dream come true to me.

Oh yeah, on a side not, calling me a) German (I'm English/Italinan) ...

okay then, benito.



oh, and stop following me around, f...

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by roberto blanco:


hey, you tell me.
yeah, and you have virtually no civil liberties (LOL), - sounds like a a fascist dream come true to me.

okay then, benito.



oh, and stop following me around, f...

Who posted here first? Who was in the PL first?

Listen, if I here another damn fascist comment out of you I'm going to report every post.
I don't think DH wants to see 1 repors for every "OMG U TEH FASCIST NZAI!!1!" post.

My civil rights ranking is down because I voted against pot. Boo hoo.

[Joshua]

Well, I'm glad to see we've found something worthwhile to argue about.

[DeathToWindows]

I'd better hold off on this until after finals... but it looks really cool.

[anti-sleep]

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:
Who posted here first? Who was in the PL first?

Listen, if I here another damn fascist comment out of you I'm going to report every post.
I don't think DH wants to see 1 repors for every "OMG U TEH FASCIST NZAI!!1!" post.

[CreepingDeth]

New nation. After finding out how much of an impact these questions had, I redid mine.



The Confederacy of Martial Lands
"Lunctus Pro Licentia Quod Prosperitas"

Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Powerhouse
Political Freedoms: Superb

Location: The East Pacific

The Confederacy of Martial Lands is a tiny, economically powerful nation, remarkable for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million are effectively ruled by a group of massive corporations, who run for political office and provide their well-off citizens with world-class goods and services. Their poorer citizens, however, are mostly starving to death while being urged to go out and get real jobs. The populace has reasonably extensive civil rights, although these are mostly aimed at allowing them to buy whatever they like.

The tiny, corrupt, pro-business government juggles the competing demands of Religion & Spirituality, Law & Order, and Commerce. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Retail, Basket Weaving, and Gambling industries.

Crime is a major problem. Martial Lands's national animal is the eagle, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the liben.




Not bad. I want to work on some of the issues, but not bad for a start.

[Zimphire]

Please, lets not argue in this thread.

It's such a nice thread.

[MacGorilla]

Ya really. Its a fun game. Lets keep it that way.

[CreepingDeth]

Now that I look at it, it seems very weird. Why does it automatically assume that my government is corrupt? What box did I check for that?