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Unreserved +1 for The Wrong Trousers.
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi
Isn't trump british for fart?
That makes way more sense now.
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi
Isn't trump british for fart?
We have always loved shaun the sheep. There are dvds of the tvshow before the movie (and currently new ones also).
Have they seen Wallace and Gromit, especially The Wrong Trousers? A close shave introduces early Shaun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_and_Gromit
I didn't care as much for the full movie Wallace and Gromit (curse of the wererabbit) but the early shorts are gold.
On a different note, we watched The Menu this weekend. At first it seemed a snarky sendup of old mysteries and culinary snobbery (knives out + cuisine) but things took a left turn. Excellent performances, visually interesting... no spoilers.
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Great call on Coherence, really enjoyed that movie
The Menu
Let’s get it out of the way: the movie doesn’t make a lot of sense from a plot perspective. But come for the miscast Anna Taylor-Joy’s massive peepers, stay for the withering satire on fancy restaurants, art critics, rich people and internet super fans. Sip your fancy $200 bottle of red wine with that signature barnyard funk, ignore the nonsensical plot points, and have a laugh at the expense of even fancier rich people!
Didn’t I nail it? You’re welcome!!
Also, kids loved Shaun the Sheep TV show. Oddly enough they thought the movie was too scary….weirdos
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi
Isn't trump british for fart?
Yes. And you can't imagine how much fun we had with that for four years.
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Yes. And you can't imagine how much fun we had with that for four years.
Just wait until you learn what double meaning “Johnson” has in American English
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Yup: Luckily it happens that Johnson the johnson is tautological.
I guess that a big difference is that more than 50% of the UK population can name the President of the US of A, but the percentage of Americans that know the name of the British Prime Minister (or the leaders of other insignificant little countries) is considerably lower than that.
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"... in 6 months if WMD are found, I hope all clear-thinking people who opposed the war will say "You're right, we were wrong -- good job". Similarly, if after 6 months no WMD are found, people who supported the war should say the same thing -- and move to impeach Mr. Bush." - moki, 04/16/03
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Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre
Very, very borderline. Doesn’t gel, except maybe a touch near the end. Chronically violates the rule of “show, don’t tell”. Lacks a lot of imagination. Worst Aubery Plaza performance I’ve ever seen, though she looks great.
With all that going against it, Hugh Grant hits a grand slam. The weak parts are worth it for him.
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The Artist
The premise is real life is like silent movies. It’s brilliant.
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Who'd have thought that hugh grant would turn into a serious actor.
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Terminator Genisys
Didn’t expect much so I wasn’t disappointed. Schlocky, but intentionally so. Stuff blows up good. Actors are weak except for Schwarzenegger, who’s playing the role for laughs and it’s a treat. Half-hour too long.
The writing stands out. They came up with surprisingly passable reasons for revisiting the earlier movies and Schwarzenegger being old. It also has good twists on the tropes of the Terminatorverse.
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I've just seen a few Youtube clips, and they did stir a big desire going out of my way to watch it. I noticed that it doesn't take itself too seriously, but in my opinion, only the first two Terminator movies give me a sense or horror. None of the other Terminators seems scarier and more capable than the T1000. The T1000 could imitate people and things, morph into weapons and pass through metal bars. It was as superior to the T800 as the T800 was to a human. Sarah Connor's horror of seeing the (friendly) T800 after being confined to a mental hospital is just perfect. Terminator 2 is one of the few movies where you can make a legitimate argument that it is better than the first part.
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I found Terminator 2 to be a massive disappointment in the writing department.
One of the best things about the first was the Terminator’s efficiency. The T-800 never killed someone without a straightforward reason.
The T-1000 seemed to like killing. Which is not how “without emotion” works.
What really frosts my ass is all it needed was one line of exposition of how they programmed the T-1000 with hate to make it a better killing machine and then it would have been perfect, but they just didn’t care.
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From a technology / craft standpoint, absolutely T2 was better. Acting also.
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Originally Posted by subego
I found Terminator 2 to be a massive disappointment in the writing department.
One of the best things about the first was the Terminator’s efficiency. The T-800 never killed someone without a straightforward reason.
The T-1000 seemed to like killing. Which is not how “without emotion” works.
What really frosts my ass is all it needed was one line of exposition of how they programmed the T-1000 with hate to make it a better killing machine and then it would have been perfect, but they just didn’t care.
Its been a while, who does it kill out of pure spite? The stepdad? I'd argue that was just cold. Most others it kills so it can imitate without being caught out by there being two of anyone. Or am I remembering wrong?
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep
Its been a while, who does it kill out of pure spite? The stepdad? I'd argue that was just cold. Most others it kills so it can imitate without being caught out by there being two of anyone. Or am I remembering wrong?
Same here, I thought the T1000's longer kill list was just a result of it wanting to impersonate whomever it killed. Killing the step parents was quite logical, I thought. In comparison, the T800's gratuitous violence in the beginning of the first movie, at the biker bar, seemed a bit weird. A cold, logical machine such as the Terminator should know to have kept a lower profile in the beginning.
The only obvious weakness in the story is the rabbit hole of time paradoxes you can fall into. But honestly, I always thought this movie was more enjoyable if you didn't ponder about those too hard.
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The moment from the first movie which solidified the T-800’s efficiency for me is when he steals the truck at the end. He simply tells the driver to “get out”, and because the driver complies, nothing happens to him. I don’t recall the bar scene well enough to remember if he kills anyone who doesn’t get in his way.
I (total) recall the T-1000 killing people for no particularly good reason, but it’s been awhile since I’ve seen it, so I’d need to watch it again to be sure… which I’m not going to do.
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Originally Posted by subego
The moment from the first movie which solidified the T-800’s efficiency for me is when he steals the truck at the end. He simply tells the driver to “get out”, and because the driver complies, nothing happens to him. I don’t recall the bar scene well enough to remember if he kills anyone who doesn’t get in his way.
That's true.
Although it seems to me the shooting in the club (Tech Noir, nice name, so 1980s!) could have been avoided. Ditto for the police station.
However, in terms of the story, I think e. g. the shooting in the police station served the same purpose as the T1000 killing John's foster parents — to show how scary Terminators are. It's why the movies are good in my mind.
Originally Posted by subego
I (total) recall the T-1000 killing people for no particularly good reason, but it’s been awhile since I’ve seen it, so I’d need to watch it again to be sure… which I’m not going to do.
I'm sure that once we nitpick, we could find lots of gratuitous and superfluous deaths in either film. Although I think some of the scenes serve a purpose other than telling the most logical story, e. g. evoking the right feelings and show how ridiculously overpowered Terminators are compared to the guardian (i. e. Reese or Arnie).
It is also why later Terminator movies don't work as well for me. The Terminators are not as scary (relatively and absolutely speaking). They tried to justify it, but I don't think they were particularly convincing. Plus, the later movies do try to open Pandora's box and try to make sense of the contents vis-a-vis time travel.
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I completely agree on that being one element.
Another important one might be going from James Cameron as director of the first two movies to a menagerie of….. not James Camerons
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Originally Posted by subego
I don’t recall the bar scene well enough to remember if he kills anyone who doesn’t get in his way.
So the bar scene is actually the T-800 in the second movie, and while I don't think he kills anyone, he messes a few people up to the point they will have permanent damage of one kind or another, which seems OTT to acquire clothes given none of them can really hurt him.
The clothes-stealing scene in the first one is three street punks (including Bill Paxton), at least one of which he eviscerates I think. But this would be done in part to garner rapid co-operation from the survivors, and in part to show the audience the level of cold ruthlessness they were dealing with.
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Isn’t there a scene from the first movie where the T-800 finds Sarah Connor in a bar? The memorable part for me is he pulls out a giant revolver with a laser sight, and you get a POV shot of the laser pointing at you.
In the punk scene, doesn’t he kill the one who says “fuck you, asshole”?
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In other news, Dungeons and Dragons was quite fun.
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Oh, good!
I’ve stayed away from the previous entries based on bad word-of-mouth, but I’ve heard they finally “get it” this time. I like Chris Pine too.
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I, Tonya
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One More Time
Groundhog Day meets Peggy Sue Got Married meets Sweden. Made me nostalgic for music from the early aughts. Light way to pass an hour-and-a-half. Has parts I’m not sure they thought through.
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From back in 2016
Okay, this wasn't found on GIS, but it wasn't what I was looking for, and is interesting nonetheless.
I was looking for this...
Which is the movie Tag.
Amazon doesn't carry it, so it helpfully suggested Zombie Ass as a substitute.
Even without having seen Zombie Ass, I can kinda guess where an algorithm might get confused. Tag is Japanese, horror (after a fashion), exceptionally gory, and involves schoolgirls. Past that, it's also a surreal art flick about the nature of existence (and quite brilliant). I assume Zombie Ass is shit jokes.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Decided to look again and it’s now available on Prime. You want “Tag (2015)”.
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Puss in Boots the Last Wish was surprisingly entertaining, even for our "older" audience (ie, big kids and adults).
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In other news, Dungeons and Dragons was quite fun.
I’m halfway through and I’m not liking it. I have a feeling it’s going to be impossible to satisfy me with something like this.
I’m not a huge fan of the Forgotten Realms. My only real connection is Baldur’s Gate.
The effects and monsters look cheesy and cheap.
This is supposed to be SERIOUS BUSINESS.
It has aspects of the game itself which make for an unsatisfying narrative structure.
I can see the reasoning behind these choices, so I’m not blaming any of them, but they still don’t sit right with me.
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Even my hardcore D&D player enjoyed it, but as more of an adventure movie with nods to the game, rather than a real campaign. Not SERIOUS BIZNESS.
Like, we all cheered when a certain mob obstacle showed up, and was useful to the plot.
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I got the full-on campaign feel from the constant stream of defeated enemies who say “your Princess is in another castle”.
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Stowaway
Good, but can’t fill the shoes of Gravity. Speaking of which, the (plausibly generated) artificial gravity in this movie seemed there only so they didn’t have to pay for zero-G effects. Comes up with an interesting dilemma, but I felt they kinda railroaded the solution rather than take the risk of letting it be morally ambiguous. Worth watching, but no rush.
Toni Collette is awesome.
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Little Miss Sunshine
Didn’t like it nearly as much as I did with my original viewing. All I can think of is I watched it in a very responsive theatre, and I used to think dysfunction was funnier. Abagail Breslin was as good as I remembered.
Toni Collette is awesome.
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Saw Honor Among Thieves again. My snobbery appears to have been cured. Enjoyed it a lot more this time. Still a bit longer than it needed to be.
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Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
It does end on a cliffhanger, and there are no stingers.
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Ghostbusters: Afterlife
Prefer the chick Ghostbusters.
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Casino Royale
I dunno. Okay I guess? I was expecting more since it gets so hyped. Way too long. I liked the lower key stuff, both in terms of action and non-action.
Preferred No Time to Die, which is the only other Craig Bond I’ve seen.
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Good fuckin lord. Casino Royale is awesome. Mads is real bad at poker though. But you have to see Skyfall!!!!!
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My favorite Mads… first post of the thread.
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Riders of Justice
Danish comedy.
In my experience, all Scandinavian comedies are dark.
The comedy in this movie is predicated on dysfunctional people committing a homicidal vigilante rampage.
Pretty hilarious.
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I was actually trying out some new home theatre speakers this past weekend and watched Skyfall as a test run. 5/5, the greatest Bond film ever, one of my top-10 favourite films, only allowed complaint is a very specific computer hacking scene you’ll immediately know when you see it.
Then I rewatched Blade Runner 2049. Ye gads what a soundtrack. I melted my wife’s face off and she hated it. Another 5/5.
Finally I tried that new Guy Ritchie (!?) film Covenant with Jakey Gyllenhaal. It was another solid predictable Sniper meets Hurt Locker with a not-all-Afghans-are-bad message. Poor character development, ends happily.
It was an exhausting weekend overall.
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We watched Idiocracy last night. Aside from being not quite as witty as I recall ( more cringe hooker jokes) it held up pretty well and was gratifiied to see younger generation appreciate the humor/cautionary tale.
Also Charlie Chaplin must be stopped.
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Asteroid City
Not sure what it is. It's not really a narrative film. It is very good though. Lovely cinematography, characters, sound, music. It's been quite divisive but I think its one of Wes Anderson's best.
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I’m really excited to see it!
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Children of Men
Not bad or anything, but unnecessarily bleak, which I never thought was justified, both in terms of the worldbuilding, and as a piece of fiction. Good performances.
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Hard disagree with you there. It’s on my aforementioned personal top-10 movies list. I’ve been thinking about when to re-watch it lately and might have to take you up on it. The only real flaw I’ve have with it is that the refugee girl always feels like a poor actor, although I have no idea if I’m being thrown off by a real accent. The refugee premise seems pretty prescient nowadays. The farm escape and that absolutely wild one-take final war scene was breathtaking!
Now I’m a real fan of any well-done bleak dystopian. Give me all your breakdown of societies.
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I figured this might be an unpopular opinion.
Props to the one take, though. That was amazing. Of course, since I had never seen it before, I was already a minute or two in before I realized it wasn’t cutting away.
Edit: you've seen 1984, yes?
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Yeah, that director has made some great movies. There’s a number of shorter one-take scenes like that in the movie (the introduction to Clive Owens’ character outside the cafe being another) which are pretty effective, although that one at the end is obviously the tour de force Oscars moonshot.
Now you’ve got me excited for a rewatch tonight!!!
Funny enough, I’ve never seen the 1984 movie. I used to be a big book guy and avoided the adaptation. Now I’m less of a book guy and should probably go for it. I’ve heard it is a good movie but so bleak it is not particularly enjoyable, which may not be my cup of tea. I love Children of Men because, while bleak, it is propulsive due to the road-trip premise, has some great action scenes, and is ultimately about a new hope.
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I’m not the biggest fan of the book for being… suffocatingly bleak. Much prefer Animal Farm, but that movie sucked.
It’s been long enough since I’ve seen 1984, I can’t remember a lot of details, but John Hurt is superlative, and the production design is peak grotty.
If you like your bleak cut with something, I unreservedly recommend Brazil, but I imagine you’ve seen it.
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Good recommendations here. Brazil I saw years ago and likely did not appreciate it enough, so I’ll give it another shot soon. I will say that in general I’m not a big fan of absurdist comedy, and of course that’s off on the wrong foot for Gilliam (or the Coen brothers for a lot of their deliberate comedies). 12 Monkeys is his only film I’d say has been on my rewatch list up til now, and it’s a great dystopian. Will also give Brazil another shot and see how it goes!
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Hahahaha I was going to mention Raising Arizona in my previous post and didn’t bother. It’s a universally beloved Coen brothers comedy that I’ve never been able to get through. I just don’t like it; I’ve tried at least three times (one including once this past winter).
I just don’t really think it’s funny. To me it’s like a Shakespeare play: there’s always 5 theatre nerds in the front laughing uproariously at every one-liner, but I just don’t think ‘ol Billy does a very good comedy routine. Although I’ve read pretty much every Shakespeare classic.
Most of the Coen brothers comedies are like that to me. No Country for Old Men, The Big Lebowski, Miller’s Crossing, Blood Simple — those are on my all-timers list. Their comedies I think are kind of terrible in comparison, but I realize I’m in the minority here.
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Just watched Children of Men again. Just amazing. Even the audio is pretty incredible. Take your personal opinions and shove ‘em!!
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