[BRussell]

]This blog Has collected some information that suggests the suicide outside of the University of Oklahoma was actually an attempted Palestinian-style suicide bombing. There are a number of links (listed in that blog post) between some of the 9/11 terrorists and Oklahoma, and there have been numerous conspiracy theories about a Middle Eastern connection between Gulf War vet Timothy McVeigh and his bombing of the federal building there.

[Oops, I thought I was in the Political/War Lounge.]

Originally Posted by BRussell

]This blog Has collected some information that suggests the suicide outside of the University of Oklahoma was actually an attempted Palestinian-style suicide bombing. There are a number of links (listed in that blog post) between some of the 9/11 terrorists and Oklahoma, and there have been numerous conspiracy theories about a Middle Eastern connection between Gulf War vet Timothy McVeigh and his bombing of the federal building there.

Yeah, right. That "information" has been collected because some hard core right-wingers can't accept the fact the all the evil in the world doesn't just come from Arabs.

[Captain Obvious]

Duh, of course not. Just half of it.

[Rolling Bones]

Quick! Someone call Pachead.

Here boy.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by hayesk

Yeah, right. That "information" has been collected because some hard core right-wingers can't accept the fact the all the evil in the world doesn't just come from Arabs.

Wah? Where are you getting that crap from?

BTW this goes in the Political Lounge jerky.

[Rolling Bones]

Originally Posted by Kevin

BTW this goes in the Political Lounge jerky.

Would help if you read the first post.

[Kevin]

I think this goes into the PL.

BTW

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Rolling Bones

Quick! Someone call Pachead.

Here boy.

Yep, this is exactly what I was hinting at a few days ago. Something is very fishy with that alleged "suicide". We shall see when more facts come out.

[JoshuaZ]

Sigh... here we go again.

[JazzCatDRP]

I was at that game when it happened, rooting on my Wildcats. Pretty scary stuff...I think I'm a lot luckier than some media outlets are claiming. This may not have been Islamic at all, but I have serious doubts that someone just happened to decide to kill themselves with a bomb, a few hundred yards away from 85,000 people.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally Posted by Rolling Bones

Quick! Someone call Pachead.

Or one of the fellow idiots. Oh wait... too late.

[euchomai]

Many new reports today, I'm from Oklahoma City and was actually at the game. Here is the lowdown from News 9:
1. Attempted to purchase over 20 bags of ammonium nitrate from a feed store.
2. Attempted twice to enter the stadium, both times turned away because he wouldn't open his bag.
3. Extremist materials pulled out of his house.

[Cubeoid]

Uhhhh.. this tread belongs in the war lounge.

Move Request!

..I can smell a derailment coming.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO

Or one of the fellow idiots. Oh wait... too late.

Yeah, yeah, you don't like me, that has already been established since you feel the need to constantly comment on me. Don't you have some gay Canadian orgy to attend or something ?

[Cubeoid]

Stop bickering fellows. Let's get along.

[Rolling Bones]

Originally Posted by PacHead

Yeah, yeah, you don't like me, that has already been established since you feel the need to constantly comment on me. Don't you have some gay Canadian orgy to attend or something ?

Don't you have some self-mutilation to do?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO

Or one of the fellow idiots. Oh wait... too late.

I didn't know you was friend with pachead.

[mojo2]

Let's get this straight. The people who have reason to BELIEVE OBL's threats to bring sorrow to the USA suspect any suicide bombing here in the USA might be an act of Islamic terror.

Those who scoff at this idea are ALSO critical of the USA and the US supporters here on these boards.

And the people who criticize the US supporters usually applaud the efforts of Islam and/or Islamic terrorism?

And Islamic terrorism kills hundreds and thousands of innocent men, women and children, christians, jews, buddhists, atheists, agnostics and even other Muslims?

And the people who support this wanton killing have the gall to call ANYONE a jerk???

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by mojo2

And the people who criticize the US supporters usually applaud the efforts of Islam and/or Islamic terrorism?

And even funnier is the fact that at least one of 'em is homosexual. A gay islamic terrorist supporter ? Talk about messed up priorities. Why would any gays defend islamic terrorists ?

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Rolling Bones

Don't you have some self-mutilation to do?

Me self-mutilation ? Nah boy, I like myself way too much for that.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by PacHead

And even funnier is the fact that at least one of 'em is homosexual. A gay islamic terrorist supporter ? Talk about messed up priorities. Why would any gays defend islamic terrorists ?

I don't really know him or have much, if any, history of bad blood. Nor do I wish to cast the first stone. But I must admit you have a point. It kinda reminds me of the guy in the first "Die Hard" flick, Harry Ellis, who tries to negotiate with the terrorists.

They've heard the alarm, can see and sense the agitation among
their captors. Ellis slides over to Holly.

ELLIS
What's happening?

HOLLY
They don't look happy...something's
gone wrong.

ELLIS
The police...?

HOLLY
(shaking her head)
John.

ELLIS
John? Christ, he could **** this
whole thing up...what does he think
he's doing?

HOLLY
How about his job?

ELLIS
His 'job' is 3000 miles away. Without
him, they might let us go...at least
we have a chance...
...


As the ******** continues, Ellis suddenly STANDS, head towards
the terrorist "office". Immediately the chief guard here,
Fritz, moves to intercept Ellis.

HOLLY
Where are you going?

ELLIS
I'm tired of sitting here waiting
to see who gets us killed first...
them...or your husband.
(to the approaching
Fritz)
Hi there.

HOLLY
(worried)
What are you going to do?

ELLIS
Hey, I negotiate million dollar
deals for breakfast. I can handle
these clowns.
(to Fritz)
I want to talk to Hans. Hans!
Sprickenzie talk?

He doesn't wait for an answer. Fritz follows him. Holly
worries.

230 THE OFFICE 230

KARL
(in mid-speech,
angry)
-- you wouldn't let me kill him
when I had the chance --

HANS
If you'd listened to me he would
be neutralized already!

KARL
I don't want neutral...I want dead --

ALL TURN at a rap on the door. Ellis is there.

ELLIS
Hope I'm not interrupting...?

HANS
(to Fritz)
What does he want?

As Fritz shrugs:

ELLIS
It's not what I want, it's what
I can give you. Look, let's be
straight, okay? It's obvious
you're not some dumb thug up
here to snatch a few purses, am
I right?

Karl looks at Ellis and then at Hans, as if to say, let me plug
this asshole right now. But Hans is either amused of curious
or bored enough to shake his head, turn back to Ellis.

HANS
(politely)
You're very perceptive.

ELLIS
(flattered)
Hey, I read the papers, I watch
60 minutes, I say to myself, these
guys are professionals, they're
motivated, they're happening.
They want something. Now, personally,
I don't care about your politics.
Maybe you're pissed at the
Camel Jockeys, maybe it's the
Hebes, Northern Ireland, that's
none of my business. I figure,
You're here to negotiate, am I right?

HANS
You're amazing. You figured this
all out already?

ELLIS
Hey, business is business. You use
a gun, I use a fountain pen, what's
the difference? To put it in my
terms, you're here on a hostile
takeover and you grab us for some
greenmail but you didn't expect a
poison pill was gonna be running
around the building.
(smiling)
Hans, baby...I'm your white knight.

HANS
(dryly)
I must have missed 60 Minutes. What
are you saying?

ELLIS
The guy upstairs who's ****ing things
up? I can give him to you.

As Hans reacts with real interest for the first time, we:

...

ELLIS' VOICE
Hello, John boy?

McClane's eyes open, showing equal parts of shock and hope.
In the office, CAMERA ADJUSTS TO SHOW Ellis as Hans gives him
the CB.

MCCLANE
Ellis?

Ellis has a cigarette, and a terrorist brings him a Diet coke.

ELLIS
John, they're giving me a few minutes
to try and talk some sense into you.
I know you think you're doing your
job, and I can appreciate that, but
you're just dragging this thing out.
None of us gets out of here until
these people can negotiate with the
LA police, and they're just not gonna
start doing that until you stop
messing up the works.

MCCLANE
(carefully)
Ellis, what have you told them?

ELLIS
I told them we're old friends and you
were my guest at the party.

McClane sighs, partially relieved. Hans meanwhile, narrows his
eyes.

MCCLANE
Ellis...you shouldn't be doing
this...

ELLIS
Tell me about it.

He looks at Hans, who gives him a nod.

ELLIS
All right...John, listen to me...
They want you to tell them where the
detonators are. They know people are
listening. They want the detonators
or they're going to kill me.

Ellis gives Hans a big "ok" sign. Hans returns it.

236 INT. POLICE TRAILER - ON POWELL, ROBINSON - SAME 236

and others listening intently. McClane closes his eyes and
leans his head back again. He knows what is going to happen,
even if this poor bastard Ellis doesn't.

ELLIS' VOICE
John, didn't you hear me?

MCCLANE
(to CB, quietly)
Yeah, I hear you, you ****ing moron!

ELLIS
John, I think you could get with
the program a little. The police
are here now. It's their problem.
Tell these guys where the detonators
are so no one else gets hurt. Hey,
I'm putting my life on the line for
you buddy...

MCCLANE
Don't you think I know that! Put
Hans on! Hans, listen to me, that
******** doesn't know what kind of
scum you are, but I do --

HANS
Good. Then you'll give us what we
want and save your friend's life.
You're not part of this equation.
It's time to realize that.

Saying this, Hans takes out his gun, points it at Ellis, smiling.
Ellis smiles, too.

ELLIS
What am I, a method actor? Hans,
babe, put away the gun. This is
radio, not television...

MCCLANE
That asshole's not my friend!
I barely know him! I hate his
****ing guts --
(desperately sincere)
-- Ellis, for Christ's sake, tell
him you don't mean **** to me --

ELLIS
John, how can you say that, after
all these years--? John? John?

Ellis looks at Hans and shrugs, "Well, I tried..." Hans nods
understandingly. He takes the CB, presses the TALK button, and
in one frighteningly smooth motion brings the Walther up to
Ellis' forehead and PULLS THE TRIGGER.

[Mark Larr]

Originally Posted by hayesk

Yeah, right. That "information" has been collected because some hard core right-wingers can't accept the fact the all the evil in the world doesn't just come from Arabs.

Not Arabs, just muslims.

Arabs, Persians, Insonesians, Asians, etc are good people. It's just when you mix in a hateful, fanantical religous belief is when things go bad for anyone.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by Mark Larr

Not Arabs, just muslims.

Arabs, Persians, Insonesians, Asians, etc are good people. It's just when you mix in a hateful, fanantical religous belief is when things go bad for anyone.

Which is why organized religion is dumb.

[BRussell]

Wow, what happened to my thread? Is this what happens when you accidentally put it in the kiddie's lounge?

[ThinkInsane]

Originally Posted by BRussell

Wow, what happened to my thread? Is this what happens when you accidentally put it in the kiddie's lounge?

If you haven't noticed, it's what happens when you put a thread in any lounge these days

[UNTeMac]

BRussell, your source isn't exactly impartial but given the evidence that's coming out, it's at least clear that this guy probably wanted to take some people with him. The Texas vs. OU game is this weekend nearby in Dallas...

Whether he was influenced by extremism isn't even close to clear yet but I love watching the usual suspects foam at the mouth for that to be the case. It's funny that terrorists in Iraq love to play up incidents as planned by the U.S. and here we have people trying to automatically pin something, without hard evidence, on their enemy. Will it take another Oklahoma city to make us realize there's more that one kind of terrorist in the world?

[vmarks]

Originally Posted by PacHead

And even funnier is the fact that at least one of 'em is homosexual. A gay islamic terrorist supporter ? Talk about messed up priorities. Why would any gays defend islamic terrorists ?

He isn't alone in this self-defeating pursuit:

http://www.quitpalestine.org/ is queers undermining israeli terrorism in palestine.
Now view them in perspective with Hamas.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...814968,00.html

"A VISION of an Islamic society that bans mixed dancing and sternly disapproves of homosexuality has been given by Mahmoud Zahar, the most senior leader of Hamas in Gaza.

After controversies when a Hamas-led council halted a dance festival and Islamist gunmen stopped a rap band performing in Gaza, Dr Zahar defended the enforcement of a strict interpretation of Islam.

A man holds a woman by the hand and dances with her in front of everyone. Does that serve the national interest?” Dr Zahar said on the Arabic website Elaph. “If so, why have the phenomena of corruption and prostitution become pervasive in recent years?”

Because of successes by Hamas in municipal polls and its likely strong showing in January’s parliamentary elections, secular Palestinians fear that it will try to impose its ultraconservative vision on them. Its Gaza heartland has no cinemas or bars, yet the West Bank has a brewery and Ramallah restaurants serve wine.

Dr Zahar condemned homosexual marriage, saying: “Are these the laws for which the Palestinian street is waiting? For us to give rights to homosexuals and to lesbians, a minority of perverts and the mentally and morally sick?”"

[vmarks]

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/124635.php

has a good roundup of the news so far.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by PacHead

And even funnier is the fact that at least one of 'em is homosexual. A gay islamic terrorist supporter ? Talk about messed up priorities. Why would any gays defend islamic terrorists ?

United in their dislike/hatred of the traditional western way, historically built on Christianity.

That's what I've got it down as anyways.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by mojo2

It kinda reminds me of the guy in the first "Die Hard" flick, Harry Ellis, who tries to negotiate with the terrorists.

Good analogy.

[Mark Larr]

Originally Posted by Doofy

United in their dislike/hatred of the traditional western way, historically built on Christianity.

That's what I've got it down as anyways.

It's called "even thought the enemy of my enemy wants me dead, I'm still on his side" syndrome.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by vmarks

He isn't alone in this self-defeating pursuit:

http://www.quitpalestine.org/ is queers undermining israeli terrorism in palestine.
Now view them in perspective with Hamas.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...814968,00.html

"A VISION of an Islamic society that bans mixed dancing and sternly disapproves of homosexuality has been given by Mahmoud Zahar, the most senior leader of Hamas in Gaza.

After controversies when a Hamas-led council halted a dance festival and Islamist gunmen stopped a rap band performing in Gaza, Dr Zahar defended the enforcement of a strict interpretation of Islam.

A man holds a woman by the hand and dances with her in front of everyone. Does that serve the national interest?” Dr Zahar said on the Arabic website Elaph. “If so, why have the phenomena of corruption and prostitution become pervasive in recent years?”

Because of successes by Hamas in municipal polls and its likely strong showing in January’s parliamentary elections, secular Palestinians fear that it will try to impose its ultraconservative vision on them. Its Gaza heartland has no cinemas or bars, yet the West Bank has a brewery and Ramallah restaurants serve wine.

Dr Zahar condemned homosexual marriage, saying: “Are these the laws for which the Palestinian street is waiting? For us to give rights to homosexuals and to lesbians, a minority of perverts and the mentally and morally sick?”"

Bizarrely, a BETTER case can be made for Blacks serving in the Confederate Army during the US civil war. (The war was first about secession, NOT slavery. The 1860 Census counted MORE 'Free Negroes" in the South than the North and the attitudes of Northerners towards blacks was as hostile as we imagine the Southern attitudes were so the slave had nothing to gain by a Union victory at that point. Blacks served with Confederate Armies from the beginning of the war. But in the Union Army, not until 1863.
http://www.civilwarhistory.com/slave...oldiersCSA.htm ) than for Gays supporting Islam.

And here is something TRULY shocking, a case can even be made to explain how and why JEWS would serve in the Wehrmacht. (Grandfathered in before Hitler, when race wasn't as much an issue and losing one's personal identity to that of the service. http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html )

But, I can't understand how a gay or lesbian might support Islam.

[mojo2]

Sorry for my part in derailing the thread.

Back on track.

October 06, 2005

Police Confirm Oklahoma Bomber Under Investigation
(Norman, OK) Norman, Oklahoma, police confirmed in a press conference today that JOEL HENRY HINRICHS III was being investigated because he had acted suspiciously while attempting to buy ammonium nitrate fertilizer at an area store. Channel 5 Oklahoma:

At a 2 p.m. news conference, Norman Police Department spokesman J.D. Younger said an off-duty, plainclothes officer overheard a conversation Joel Henry Hinrichs III had with the proprietor of a Norman feed store last Thursday at 4 p.m. The conversation centered on a purchase of ammonium nitrate fertilizer.
"I think it's important to note that it's not a criminal activity to purchase ammonium nitrate fertilizer," Younger said.

However, he noted that the context of Hinrichs' conversation with a manager of Ellison Feed & Seed was suspicious. Younger indicated that the off-duty officer reported that Hinrichs asked about different types of fertilizer and the concentration of ammonium nitrate in each.

Why is this suspicious? Because ammonium nitrate plus + diesel fuel = Oklahoma City Murrah Federal Building bomb!
What came of the investigation?

The officer, according to Younger, took a mental note of the conversation and its context, and then followed Hinrichs outside. The officer took down the student's license tag number, contacted Norman's police department dispatch operation, had Hinrichs checked for outstanding warrants -- but, alas, found nothing.
The officer continued his investigation Thursday night, but could only conclude that Hinrichs was an OU student and lived in university-subsidized housing. The officer did contact a Norman bomb squad technician; however, the plan at that time was for the off-duty officer to complete a written report for submission the following Monday.

So, an off duty cop thought the conversation he heard between Hinrichs and the store owner was suspicious enough to consult the bomb squad and start an investigation? Interesting, indeed.
Of course, Hinrichs blew himself up before the investigation could be completed. I wonder who the officer would have called next once he found out that Hinrichs roommate was a Pakistani national, jihad material was in his apartment, and neighbors claim Hinrichs attended a local mosque?

Still almost no MSM coverage of this story.

Hat tip to Michelle Malkin.

Earlier post here on evidence that JOEL HENRY HINRICHS III suicide may have been botched Islamic terrorist attack.

Posted by Dr. Rusty Shackleford at October 6, 2005 03:40 PM | TrackBack

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/124708.php


Hat tip to Michelle Malkin??? The one in the lower L/H pic???

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=271987

[von Wrangell]

"jihad material"?

[Dakar]

Originally Posted by mojo2

Tom Hanks?!

[mojo2]

http://www.zombietime.com/oklahoma_suicide_bombing/

This guy seems to have the BEST coverage of the Oklahoma Suicide Bomber. It's increasingly beginning to look like it WAS an act of terrorism by a young former OU student who attended the Norman, OK Mosque. There's lots more info PLUS links at the site.

Crime Scene Overview of the Suicide Bombing in Norman, Oklahoma, 7:30pm, Saturday, October 1, 2005
The suicide bombing incident that happened at the University of Oklahoma in Norman on October 1, 2005 has led to a great deal of speculation as to the motives and intent of Joel Henry Hinrichs III, the person who died in the blast.

Law enforcement officials have generally been close-mouthed about their ongoing investigation, and the national media has so far only provided cursory coverage of the incident. As a result, the public has been forced to scrounge for details. The primary sources of information at this point are, on one hand, the local Oklahoma media, which are fairly reliable, and on the other hand two alarmist news services -- Northeast Intelligence Network and WorldNetDaily -- both of which claim to have exclusive details of a possible wider terrorist plot. But there is still no confirmation of these claims, and neither NEIN and WND are seen as entirely trustworthy.

As a result, all the information on this page is derived from news reports in local Oklahoma media, and from independent research, and not from the claims put forth by NEIN or WND, or blog entries based on those claims. (Not that NEIN and WND are necessarily wrong in this case -- I'm just withholding judgment until they have more confirmation.)

This crime scene image, which I created on October 5, is based on details revealed in various reliable media outlets and Web sites. Lin

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by mojo2

Aye. islamonazi beard, for sure.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by Doofy

Aye. islamonazi beard, for sure.

I could imagine him aboard a 19th Century whaling ship wearing a slicker and smoking a pipe.

Or I picture him wearing bib overalls walking behind a horse-drawn plow tilling his fields.

And when I first saw the pix, yes, I also thought of Tom Hanks.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by mojo2

I could imagine him aboard a 19th Century whaling ship wearing a slicker and smoking a pipe.

Or I picture him wearing bib overalls walking behind a horse-drawn plow tilling his fields.

And when I first saw the pix, yes, I also thought of Tom Hanks.

Shortly after 9/11, a lot of islamics I know (suppliers to a business I own) started to grow the islamonazi beards. They hadn't done beforehand - something about 9/11 triggered them, made them sort of "ultraislamic".

That pic kind of reminded me of them.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by mojo2

But, I can't understand how a gay or lesbian might support Islam.

Or be republican?

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Doofy

Shortly after 9/11, a lot of islamics I know (suppliers to a business I own) started to grow the islamonazi beards. They hadn't done beforehand - something about 9/11 triggered them, made them sort of "ultraislamic".

That pic kind of reminded me of them.

Some white people shave their heads as well.

Skinheadonazis for sure!

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

Some white people shave their heads as well.

Skinheadonazis for sure!

Of course, the beard isn't taken in isolation. The fact that he blew himself up is kind of an influencing factor.

[Pendergast]

You mean, like, people shave their head for fear of becoming islamofascist?

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by Doofy

Shortly after 9/11, a lot of islamics I know (suppliers to a business I own) started to grow the islamonazi beards. They hadn't done beforehand - something about 9/11 triggered them, made them sort of "ultraislamic".

That pic kind of reminded me of them.

Maybe THAT is the way they know each other...the "HI!" sign. But the Amish ALSO wear that style beard.

Too bad, the '05 Red Sox are retired in 3 games. (Actually that's a foto of Kevin Millar from last year.)

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

Or be republican?

No, that's where your lack of intelligence shows.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by mojo2

No, that's where your lack of intelligence shows.

Obviously, some of you cannot deal with ambiguity.

You being a prime example.

Aside from taking things personal, how about simply accepting that ambiguity exists, that cognitive dissonance is a fact of life and sometimes a way of survival, as irrational as it may appear to you, and others, and that America is (apparently) based on the acceptance of being different?

That comment you made I resent, not because it was stupid, but because I expect more articulation in your thoughts than a meaningless statement.

But then, the ability of posting long tirades on the Internet may not be a sign of intelligence either, right?

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

Obviously, some of you cannot deal with ambiguity.

You being a prime example.

Aside from taking things personal, how about simply accepting that ambiguity exists, that cognitive dissonance is a fact of life and sometimes a way of survival, as irrational as it may appear to you, and others, and that America is (apparently) based on the acceptance of being different?

That comment you made I resent, not because it was stupid, but because I expect more articulation in your thoughts than a meaningless statement.

But then, the ability of posting long tirades on the Internet may not be a sign of intelligence either, right?

Pendergast
Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo2
But, I can't understand how a gay or lesbian might support Islam.



Or be republican?

Nothing in the GOP platform prohibits gays or lesbians from joining.

The Quran prohibits homosexuality and Quranic law is non-negotiable for Muslims.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by mojo2

Nothing in the GOP platform prohibits gays or lesbians from joining.

The Quran prohibits homosexuality and Quranic law is non-negotiable for Muslims.

And what do polls say about it?

A MODEST 52% TO 41% MAJORITY FAVOR LAWS TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST GAYS AND LESBIANS. What is written is one thing, but as always, it is an ideal rarely achieved. The GOP platform may not prohibit the addition of different spirited members, but that does not make them more accepted in practice.. unless there is a benefit for that right?

There is still some prejudice and appears more prevalent in some political parties than others...

So my point is still valid. I will not deny that the Quran disapproves of homosexuality as I never read it. On the other hand, I wonder if the Bible does?

Ha! That reminds me that 9/11 happened when most of the US was asleep. I think you will have to find a way to stay up 24/7...

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

And what do polls say about it?

A MODEST 52% TO 41% MAJORITY FAVOR LAWS TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST GAYS AND LESBIANS. What is written is one thing, but as always, it is an ideal rarely achieved. The GOP platform may not prohibit the addition of different spirited members, but that does not make them more accepted in practice.. unless there is a benefit for that right?

There is still some prejudice and appears more prevalent in some political parties than others...

So my point is still valid. I will not deny that the Quran disapproves of homosexuality as I never read it. On the other hand, I wonder if the Bible does?

Ha! That reminds me that 9/11 happened when most of the US was asleep. I think you will have to find a way to stay up 24/7...

Junior, you may THINK you know what you are doing but you have no idea the problems you are walking into. I'll give you fair warning now. You are playing with the wrong guy. Just turn around and walk away and you'll be alright.

And, in a battle of wits you are slow on the draw and ill matched.

I think you should think about the effect a War on Terror might have on terrorists. Look around you and smell freedom in the air. I tell ya, it's everywhere. HA!

God bless George W. Bush and the Patriot Act!

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by mojo2

Junior

If you do call me names, I'll call you names too, and I have plenty for old rags like you.

, you may THINK you know what you are doing

I'm not different than you; I have opinions and I do not own the truth.

but you have no idea the problems you are walking into. I'll give you fair warning now. You are playing with the wrong guy. Just turn around and walk away and you'll be alright.

And, in a battle of wits you are slow on the draw and ill matched.

I think you should think about the effect a War on Terror might have on terrorists. Look around you and smell freedom in the air. I tell ya, it's everywhere. HA!

God bless George W. Bush and the Patriot Act!

Funny. So far, lots of words and no argumentation but a lot of bullying.

Call me if you have something to write that is:

1) relevant
2) meaningful
3) includes a minimum of respect for your peers