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When I was in the UK last time, the only way to recharge my ProBook was to use the Euro plug in the bath room.
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Originally Posted by Powerbook
It works also in the UK. I always used my german plugs directly in UK sockets, it's a bit tight, but it fits.
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Originally Posted by voodoo
... no... no no.. I'm walking away from that one.
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Originally Posted by BRussell
You've been shocked just pulling a plug out of the wall?
Thats what I was wondering...
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If you have a plug that's sitting extremely tight in the socket, what do you do?
Given that yanking on the cord is a complete no-no, I mean.
You grab it firmly between your thumb and the side of the index finger, right? And then you wobble it and wobble it and try to get a grip on the ****ing plug.
Imagine that being a small two-prong plug.
Now assume that your hands are NOT the size of a six-year-old's.
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^Truth be told, I've never had that problem ever. You just grab the plug, then pull it. I've never got a shock from that.
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Originally Posted by analogika
Imagine that being a small two-prong plug.
The small two-prong plugs are usually ribbed to give you more friction with which to grab it. There's also usually a little protrusion right where the plug meets the cord to give you something to grab onto.
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Maybe this is a stupid question, but: How are you prevented from touching the metal prongs on a US-power-plug while it's half-way inserted?
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
Maybe this is a stupid question, but: How are you prevented from touching the metal prongs on a US-power-plug while it's half-way inserted?
You aren't. But the contact point in a North American power outlet are pretty far to the back so once the plug is pulled forward there is no actual current flowing anymore. The plug needs to be inserted about 4/5th of the way to make contact.
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For a number of reasons, preventing contact with the prongs being only the most obvious, it's best to ensure that ANY plug is fully inserted. A secondary reason is that with the prongs fully inserted in the socket, you have the maximum contact surface and thus the least resistance-and least heat generated-in the connection.
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
You aren't. But the contact point in a North American power outlet are pretty far to the back so once the plug is pulled forward there is no actual current flowing anymore.
And this is not a problem with children who like to explore?
Originally Posted by Mastrap
The plug needs to be inserted about 4/5th of the way to make contact.
I wonder why nobody thought of insulating the last 1/5 of the prongs as is in the Euro-plugs?
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
And this is not a problem with children who like to explore?
I wonder why nobody thought of insulating the last 1/5 of the prongs as is in the Euro-plugs?
Maybe because no one has ever heard of anyone getting a shock?
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
And this is not a problem with children who like to explore?
When there's no current flowing, how can it be a problem?
Originally Posted by TETENAL
I wonder why nobody thought of insulating the last 1/5 of the prongs as is in the Euro-plugs?
Probably because it would be a solution in search of a problem. As I've said above, the electrical connection is interrupted almost immediately when you pull the plug out of the socket. We are talking millimetres here.
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Originally Posted by CharlesS
The small two-prong plugs are usually ribbed to give you more friction with which to grab it. There's also usually a little protrusion right where the plug meets the cord to give you something to grab onto.
*Usually*, yes.
To be fair, I've plugged and unplugged US/Japanese plugs probably thousands of times with no trouble at all, but not all of the plugs had that ridge. Especially older ones are often just slightly ribbed.
What can I say? It happened.
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
^Truth be told, I've never had that problem ever. You just grab the plug, then pull it. I've never got a shock from that.
Me either, and I am not the safest at doing that.
Now I've gotten jolted from being a dumb ass while working on electronics. But never by plugging anything in.
AKA forgot to bleed caps in a tube amp.
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Originally Posted by Powerbook
It works also in the UK. I always used my german plugs directly in UK sockets, it's a bit tight, but it fits.
Considering that you need to push open the earth prong insert on the outlet to make an electrical connection, how did you get that to work with a two prong plug?
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
Considering that you need to push open the earth prong insert on the outlet to make an electrical connection, how did you get that to work with a two prong plug?
Not sure that I understand your question. I used the two German prongs in the two "horizontal" holes of the English socket. Worked with e.g. my camera's power supply. Oh and the places I tried it were pretty old, mostly 60s and 70s. Maybe a coherence?
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Originally Posted by analogika
*Usually*, yes.
To be fair, I've plugged and unplugged US/Japanese plugs probably thousands of times with no trouble at all, but not all of the plugs had that ridge. Especially older ones are often just slightly ribbed.
What can I say? It happened.
And its believable that it happened once. But it doesn't pose a real issue.
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Originally Posted by analogika
*Usually*, yes.
To be fair, I've plugged and unplugged US/Japanese plugs probably thousands of times with no trouble at all, but not all of the plugs had that ridge. Especially older ones are often just slightly ribbed.
I think the only two-prong plugs I've seen without that ridge have been really old ones. It's pretty rare nowadays (in the US, at least - I don't know much about Japanese plugs).
The three-prong plugs, on the other hand, are quite often smooth, as in the picture you posted. I have no idea why this is.
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Me either, and I am not the safest at doing that.
Now I've gotten jolted from being a dumb ass while working on electronics. But never by plugging anything in.
Neither have I.
I was *un*plugging something.
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ
And its believable that it happened once. But it doesn't pose a real issue.
Yeah.. I'd like to see the deaths per year of this. In bar graph form please.
With pretty fishes.
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
Maybe this is a stupid question, but: How are you prevented from touching the metal prongs on a US-power-plug while it's half-way inserted?
Intelligence.
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Yeah.. I'd like to see the deaths per year of this. In bar graph form please.
With pretty fishes.
I suppose not everybody lived to tell the tale on this old MacNN as I did, eh?
The power arcs from one prong through the finger to the other and doesn't pass through the heart.
The likelihood of anything beyond a burnt finger is pretty small, if the shock is short.
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Yeah.. I'd like to see the deaths per year of this. In bar graph form please.
With pretty fishes.
I demand fluffy bunnies!
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Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
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Originally Posted by analogika
I suppose not everybody lived to tell the tale on this old MacNN as I did, eh?
The power arcs from one prong through the finger to the other and doesn't pass through the heart.
The likelihood of anything beyond a burnt finger is pretty small, if the shock is short.
My post was a joke analogika.
I thought for sure the chart with fishes made sure of that. Oh well I should take my own advice on sarcasm on the internet. I am not blaming you for not seeing the sarcasm BTW.
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
Considering that you need to push open the earth prong insert on the outlet to make an electrical connection, how did you get that to work with a two prong plug?
I get the 2 pin Italian plugs to fit by inserting a pencil in the earth socket and pushing, this lets you push the other two pins in.
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Originally Posted by Mike Pither
I get the 2 pin Italian plugs to fit by inserting a pencil in the earth socket and pushing, this lets you push the other two pins in.
I find that, in general, if it takes work to do something then it's not really worth doing that thing in the first place.
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Notice, nonhuman has had the same sig for a decade.
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Notice, nonhuman has had the same sig for a decade.
Never mind that. Where's my fluffy bunnies?
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Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
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And this is here to get around the no shouting filter
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Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Notice, nonhuman has had the same sig for a decade.
I changed it a few times, but in the end decided that the original was the best.
If it ain't broke...
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You don't see the last character correctly?
Edit: Off the top of my head I'd guess you're not on a Mac right now, then
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What about two squares? Maybe?
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ
You don't see the last character correctly?
Edit: Off the top of my head I'd guess you're not on a Mac right now, then
That's correct!
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(both are you and online?)
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I forgot how much fun this was...
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Originally Posted by badidea
Recent scientific researches showed that 45% of all male forum posters who frequently changed their signature are gay - 55% are still a virgin!
Wanna go out back and make out?
For first time in my life...
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Originally Posted by Kevin
For first time in my life...
Seriously?
I thought at least SWG already accepted one of your offers!?
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Originally Posted by badidea
Seriously?
I thought at least SWG already accepted one of your offers!?
Naw he was too big of a sissy.
We had a room picked out and everything. We were gonna meet half-way.
I was even going respect him the next morning.
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