[Dakar²]

You don't recall a recall?

[MindFad]

No, I really don't.

[Dakar²]

I don't either, but I'd be damned if was passing up that wordplay.

[MindFad]

True. Nicely done.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by MindFad 

But there is no recall.

Those retards did spark a replacement program, though, increasing strap thickness by 40-50% apparently!

What is the difference? No the strap won't kill anyone but every media outlet said "Nintendo RECALLING 3.2 million straps".

The DS adapter is a "Recall" for sure though no matter how they want to word it.

[icruise]

Originally Posted by MindFad 

But there is no recall.

Those retards did spark a replacement program, though, increasing strap thickness by 40-50% apparently!

I guess they should tell Amazon.com then. Here is the email I got yesterday, with the subject "Product Recall Notice Regarding Your Amazon.com Order":

Hello from Amazon.com.

We have recently learned that Nintendo of America is voluntarily
recalling the Wrist Straps used with Controllers for the Nintendo Wii
Video Game System you recently ordered. If consumers swing the
hand-held "Wii Remote" game controllers using excessive force and
accidentally let go, the cord connecting the controller to the wrist
strap can break, potentially causing the controller to strike
bystanders or objects. You may find additional details about the
recall in the CPSC bulletin at:

Nintendo of America Initiates Replacement Program for Wrist Straps Used with Controllers for the Wii Video Game System

Nintendo is offering to replace the original version of the wrist
straps for the Wii remote with a newer version, free of charge. For
more information, contact Nintendo toll-free at (800) 859-4519 between
6 a.m. and 7 p.m. PT, or visit their Web site at
www.support.nintendo.com.

If you purchased this item as a gift for someone, please let the
recipient know about this issue as soon as possible, and provide them
with the information to contact Nintendo for a replacement wrist
strap.

Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.

Sincerely,

Customer Service
Amazon.com
Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more

They might also want to let ABC News know as well...

[Eug Wanker]

Personally I think Nintendo was stupid to release it with such a crapola strap in the first place.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker 

Personally I think Nintendo was stupid to release it with such a crapola strap in the first place.

Totally, I was a bit odd as it is a super thin strap that I wouldn't use on a Nano let alone something heavy that can be potentially dropped or thrown.

[jokell82]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker 

Personally I think Nintendo was stupid to release it with such a crapola strap in the first place.

I think they didn't account for the fact that people would be throwing their remotes at their TVs. It's meant to catch the remote if it falls, not stop it from being hurled at 60mph.

[Dakar²]

My guess is their test subjects didn't get nearly as excited as the average person.

Also, they didn't account for beer muscles.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by jokell82 

I think they didn't account for the fact that people would be throwing their remotes at their TVs. It's meant to catch the remote if it falls, not stop it from being hurled at 60mph.

What did they expect with a toy?

And they did expect it as that is why they included a strap in the first place and every time you run a game they enforce the strap use.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by jokell82 

I think they didn't account for the fact that people would be throwing their remotes at their TVs. It's meant to catch the remote if it falls, not stop it from being hurled at 60mph.

Hence my comment. It's stupid to think a controller built to be flung around isn't going to be flung around.

[eddiecatflap]

The wii sucks ass on hdtv , but the 360 kicks it.

I'd rather buy a console that looks to the future rather than one that's stuck in the past.

[Hawkeye_a]

It's good to prepare for the future. When it comes to fun, im more focused on the present, rather than trying to imagine how much fun it could be years from now.

Have fun waiting for this future you anticipate.

[Dakar²]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a 

It's good to prepare for the future. When it comes to fun, im more focused on the present, rather than try to imagine how much fun it would be years from now.

Have fun waiting for this future you anticipate.

I think it's more a comment on longevity, not potential.

Edit: Well, maybe not. But that'd be my main concern with the Wii.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by eddiecatflap 

The wii sucks ass on hdtv , but the 360 kicks it.

I'd rather buy a console that looks to the future rather than one that's stuck in the past.

Really? I'm interested to hear your comments on how the resolution of your TV affects the gameplay mechanics and playstyle of your video games.

Fun Fact: When anybody other than, like, three people on this forum owns an HDTV, Nintendo can release compatibility then rather than wasting my money now.

[Weezer]

the problem I think for nintendo is that HDTV prices are dropping extremely fast, by the thousands. I think the sweet spot for HDTVs is gonna come in around 2 years, which will be mid cycle for the wii.

[eddiecatflap]

Anyone buying a new tv in the last year will no doubt have bought a hdtv , so that must be a few million for starters. Plus with the dramatic fall in prices , it's such an obvious option for most people. You can buy a decent hi def 26-32 inch screen for �500/$500 these days , not exactly big money eh?

Nintendo really haven't thought this one through.

Also , once you've experienced something awesome like gears of war on a 1080 screen , going back to the wii just hurts.

Zelda , a brilliant enough game , has such muddy compressed textures it's difficult to make out what's happening sometimes , which is sad.

That's WHY graphics DO matter , despite the garbage nintendo fanboys prattle on about.

[Eug]

Ironically, the game I've played the most on Xbox 360 is Robotron: 2084.

But yeah, I probably wouldn't have bought the 360 had it not had support for HD. The HD games I've played on it look absotively gorgeous. And yes, it does affect gameplay. The difference between 720p and 480p is significant.

[eddiecatflap]

I was called a troll at an av board after bemoaning the deficincies of the wii , but now slowly , people are agreeing with me.

Regarding the supposedly stunning gameplay of the wii , has anyone played the dreadfulness that is Rayman , or the pathetic 4 x 4 off roader that features slowdown half way round the track ?

It's really sad , I love Nintendo , the SNES is still arguably the greatest console ever made , but god knows , somehow , they totally screwed this one up.

They seem to do this every other generation

Snes - Exc

N64 - Crap

Gamecube - Exc

Wii - Crap

Maybe the Wii HD , which I've heard about , will settle things ?

[Eug]

Originally Posted by eddiecatflap 

I was called a troll at an av board after bemoaning the deficincies of the wii , but now slowly , people are agreeing with me.

Regarding the supposedly stunning gameplay of the wii , has anyone played the dreadfulness that is Rayman , or the pathetic 4 x 4 off roader that features slowdown half way round the track ?

It's really sad , I love Nintendo , the SNES is still arguably the greatest console ever made , but god knows , somehow , they totally screwed this one up.

They seem to do this every other generation

Snes - Exc

N64 - Crap

Gamecube - Exc

Wii - Crap

Maybe the Wii HD , which I've heard about , will settle things ?

So you're gonna declare the Wii crap based on a couple of bad games?

[Dakar²]

Heh, the N64 is crap and the GameCube was excellent? Hahahahahaha

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Heh, the N64 is crap and the GameCube was excellent? Hahahahahaha

Seriously. Mario Sunshine > Mario 64?

[Dakar²]

Even from a hardware perspective I wouldn't characterize them as such. Particularly the GC.

[eddiecatflap]

The gamecube was a massive leap over the N64 in every way , utilising a powerpc processor , advanced video chip and the advantage of progressive video output ( long before we all had hdtv's )

I think , along with the snes , it's arguably Nintendo's greatest triumph.

That's WHY the Wii is such a disappointment , it's more of a gamecube 1.5 than a real competitor for the new breed of super console.

[icruise]

Yeah, honestly the Gamecube was a disappointment for me. I was a big fan of the N64, but somehow the Gamecube just didn't come through. Luigi's Mansion as their big launch game? Mario Sunshine? That's not to say that there weren't a lot of good games (Wind Waker, etc) but somehow it didn't compare well to the N64. Admittedly, the N64 had novelty on its side -- we weren't used to true 3D games at the time, so even some rather crappy games seemed impressive.

The Gamecube was a capable system hardware-wise, but Nintendo's first party-games seemed lackluster and their third party support also paled in comparison to what they had on earlier consoles.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by eddiecatflap 

I think , along with the snes , it's arguably Nintendo's greatest triumph.

Say what? The GC was the least selling Nintendo Colsole and had a rather poor line up of games with a few exceptions: Metroid, Zelda, Pikmin, (and some may say super smash).

[eddiecatflap]

The N64 always struck me as underdesigned technically , no RGB output , despite the megadrive ( genesis ) having that in 1990 !

Sticking with cartridges and their inherent limitations while the whole world embraced the brave new world of optical media was imo another big mistake.

The SGI debacle was just the icing on the cake.

Can anyone really say Mariokart 64 is better than super mario kart on the snes or the stunning double dash on the gc ?

That was the pivotal software release imo.

[Dakar²]

Originally Posted by icruise 

Yeah, honestly the Gamecube was a disappointment for me. I was a big fan of the N64, but somehow the Gamecube just didn't come through. Luigi's Mansion as their big launch game? Mario Sunshine? That's not to say that there weren't a lot of good games (Wind Waker, etc) but somehow it didn't compare well to the N64. Admittedly, the N64 had novelty on its side -- we weren't used to true 3D games at the time, so even some rather crappy games seemed impressive.

The Gamecube was a capable system hardware-wise, but Nintendo's first party-games seemed lackluster and their third party support also paled in comparison to what they had on earlier consoles.

I thought the N64 was a hardware disaster (controller, cartridges), but ironically, it arguably has 3 of the best games ever.

[icruise]

Oh god yes, I hate that damn controller.

[Dakar²]

Particularly the joystick. Great innovation, but crappy. Makes using my N64 now less enjoyable (in the face of the quality of sticks now).

[icruise]

I mentioned this in the Wii thread, but that's one big reason that I think I will re-buy some N64 games on the Wii's Virtual Console. Being able to play N64 games with a Gamecube controller or a Classic controller, combined with the graphical upgrade they are getting (if Mario 64 is typical) make it worth the cost, at least for my favorites.

[MindFad]

What is the graphical upgrade in Mario 64? Just the resolution?

[starman]

Pfft. Forget that - the ability to never lose your game saves is enough reason for me to rebuy them. Sure the cart game saves could last for years, but then what? I would love to be able to pop in a cart to some device that sucks your game save to a Wii.

[icruise]

Originally Posted by MindFad 

What is the graphical upgrade in Mario 64? Just the resolution?

I don't know if Nintendo has released details of exactly what the difference is. Definitely the resolution is improved. An A/B comparison with the actual Nintendo 64 and the Virtual Console version was very eye-opening. The N64 just looks terrible on an HDTV. I don't know if the difference would be as noticeable on an SDTV.

[Dark Helmet]

This sounds interesting:

Ken Kutaragi sez: I "promise" an AV-centric PS3 - Engadget HD

[Eug]

Does Kutaragi even have direct control of the PS3 now that he's been shuffled out of his position?

[exca1ibur]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

This sounds interesting:

Ken Kutaragi sez: I "promise" an AV-centric PS3 - Engadget HD

I hope not. They tried this with the PS2. Remember this?

PSX

[jokell82]

Originally Posted by eddiecatflap 

I was called a troll at an av board after bemoaning the deficincies of the wii , but now slowly , people are agreeing with me.

Regarding the supposedly stunning gameplay of the wii , has anyone played the dreadfulness that is Rayman , or the pathetic 4 x 4 off roader that features slowdown half way round the track ?

It's really sad , I love Nintendo , the SNES is still arguably the greatest console ever made , but god knows , somehow , they totally screwed this one up.

They seem to do this every other generation

Snes - Exc

N64 - Crap

Gamecube - Exc

Wii - Crap

Maybe the Wii HD , which I've heard about , will settle things ?

I can see why you were labeled as a troll at another board. You're claiming the Wii sucks because of Rayman and Excite Truck? Rayman has been getting great reviews, so I'm not sure what you're getting at there...

And the N64 was far from crap, and IMO better than the Gamecube. And so far I'd say the Wii is up there with the SNES, as it's getting people playing games again who haven't in a long time (like myself). Who cares if it doesn't push as many polygons as the PS3 or XBox - games are supposed to be fun not a technical marvel (that's what tech demos are for).

[ort888]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

Have you guys seen this? Is this an exaggeration or is it really that bad?

I never bought my own PS2, so backwards compatibility would actually be fairly important to me if I bought a PS3. Something like this would really be a big problem in my mind.

[Dakar²]

First post of the day in this thread? What is the world coming to?

[cSurfr]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

Really? I'm interested to hear your comments on how the resolution of your TV affects the gameplay mechanics and playstyle of your video games.

Fun Fact: When anybody other than, like, three people on this forum owns an HDTV, Nintendo can release compatibility then rather than wasting my money now.

Wow! I'm one of only THREE people on the entire forum that have an HDTV? I'm special! Guess I had better stick with my 360 then.

[icruise]

Originally Posted by ort888 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

Have you guys seen this? Is this an exaggeration or is it really that bad?

I never bought my own PS2, so backwards compatibility would actually be fairly important to me if I bought a PS3. Something like this would really be a big problem in my mind.

Well, that video is overly dramatic, but there does seem to be an issue with some PS2 games. I haven't tried enough to really tell how widespread it is, but I do know that games that support progressive scan are not affected.

[Eug]

SEGA ANNOUNCES VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 FOR XBOX 360

Premiere Fighting Game Franchise Makes First Appearance on Microsoft’s Next Generation Videogame Console

STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN (December 21, 2006) – SEGA of America, Inc. and SEGA Europe Ltd. today announced that the highly anticipated arcade fighting game, Virtua Fighter™ 5, will make its way onto the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system. Virtua Fighter™ 5 is scheduled for release on Xbox 360™ in North America and in Europe during late summer 2007. The game will also be available for the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system on February 20th, 2007 in North America and will be available in Europe simultaneously with the system’s launch in March 2007.

“Those people lucky enough to have already played Virtua Fighter™ 5 will know that it’s laid the foundations to become the clear benchmark for fighting games on all next generation consoles”, said Matt Woodley, Creative Director, SEGA Publishing Europe Ltd. “Bringing Virtua Fighter™ 5 to the Xbox 360™ offers us a platform with power to handle the astonishing visuals, the complex and varied fighting styles of all the customisable characters and will undoubtedly put Virtua Fighter™ 5 into the hands of a gaming audience craving for a highly polished and credible fighting game.”

Virtua Fighter™ 5 features beautifully detailed stages from around the world where players face off in fast-moving martial arts battles against one of 17 characters. Two lively new characters join the elite group of fighters, adding two new unique fighting styles for players to try and master. With more skill and strategy than ever before, players are also given the opportunity to learn and employ the new “Offensive Move” technique to take down their opponents from different angles, adding a new dimension to the game and something for both new and old fans to master. Virtua Fighter™ 5 also includes the ability to customise characters by selecting from four base costumes and a wide range of unlockable accessories and earnable items. As players win more tournaments they will not only earn costumes and accessories, but also prizes and in-game money that will allow them to buy items from the in-game shop.

“The Virtua Fighter™ series from SEGA has one of the most prestigious histories in video games,” said Jeff Bell, corporate vice president of global marketing for the Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft. “It’s a franchise that has grown an army of loyal fans both in arcades and on consoles worldwide, and is consistently rated extremely high by the media. Fighting game fans have been hungry for Virtua Fighter™ 5 and we can now proudly deliver this game with SEGA to Xbox 360 gamers around the world.”

Developed by the highly renowned Tokyo based development team, AM R&D Development No.2, Virtua Fighter™ 5 for the Xbox 360™ will be available across Europe and North America during late summer 2007.

----

Too late to get my bux though. When I got my 360, I looked for Virtua Fighter, didn't find it, and thus bought Dead or Alive 4 instead.

[ort888]

Do you only buy one fighting game every 2 years?

[Eug]

Originally Posted by ort888 

Do you only buy one fighting game every 2 years?

Yes. I'm not a huge fighting game fan.

[ort888]

I still can't get that into 3D fighting games. The problem is that there isn't any one game that everyone gets good at. Back in the day EVERYBODY played SFII and MK, so you could always get a good match going. These days it seems like everyone is good at a different game.

[sek929]

I was never a fan of any fighting game (except MK 1&2) until DOA3 came out, since then I'm a DOA man.

[goMac]

Sony, apparently not understanding their problem, has announced a thought to be $2500 version of the PS3:

KUTARAGI PROMISES MORE EXPENSIVE PS3! - The Last Boss

[sek929]

Also, I know I'm late to the party, but controlling my iPod through the 360 with my wireless controller is a godsend!