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starman · Dec 19, 2003, 01:39 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast...lan/index.html

Mike

benb · Dec 19, 2003, 01:47 PM

Awesome, but the name has got to go.

Earth Mk. II · Dec 19, 2003, 01:53 PM

There will be 63 floors of office space capped by an indoor observation deck, a restaurant above that, and a vent space on top. The glass tower has a twisted shape which designers say is meant to echo the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor.

I wish there was more of a memorial aspect to the design that that. Maybe there is, but the article didn't cover it. I don't know.

And, agreed, the name's gotta go.

osiris · Dec 19, 2003, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by starman:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast...lan/index.html

Mike

As a NYer, I like it. Though I would have included TWO spires climbing up to 1776 ft. It's just a visual thing - I really miss the old Twin Towers.

From the artist's rendering, the new tower looks like it's 4000 ft. tall compared to the rest of the skyline. The rendering is a bit exaggerated IMO, but I like it.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 19, 2003, 02:15 PM

It looks really nice, the name is stupid though.

What will happen when a plane hits a all glass building?

Turias · Dec 19, 2003, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
It looks really nice, the name is stupid though.

What will happen when a plane hits a all glass building?

Didn't you see The Matrix?

MacGorilla · Dec 19, 2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by benb:
Awesome, but the name has got to go.

Yes, that name stinks. "Freedom Tower" YAWN.

Axo1ot1 · 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
It looks really nice, the name is stupid though.

What will happen when a plane hits a all glass building?

I'm trying to imagine...let's turn to the diagram:

image removed

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 19, 2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
Didn't you see The Matrix?

That's true and it was just a helicopter.

Even if they build this think, who would want to work in it?

benb · Dec 19, 2003, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Axo1ot1:
I'm trying to imagine...let's turn to the diagram:

[img]

I'm all up for a good time, but that is just distasteful.

CharlesS · Dec 19, 2003, 02:49 PM

I'm kind of

on the whole glass tower thing. Shouldn't we be trying to build a tower that's harder to blow up rather than one that's easier?

Heck, the old WTC survived an earlier bombing attempt a few years before 9/11 - it took the terrorists a few tries before they were able to bring it down. A glass tower would go down in a heartbeat.

It sure would give me the willies if I had to work in there...

starman · Dec 19, 2003, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Axo1ot1:
I'm trying to imagine...let's turn to the diagram:

image removed

Wow. I didn't realize you could sink so low.

Mike

Axo1ot1 · Dec 19, 2003, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by starman:
Wow. I didn't realize you could sink so low.

Mike

I try not to place limits on myself.

CheesePuff · Dec 19, 2003, 03:20 PM

Damn missed the picture you posted, mind PMing it to me?

Axo1ot1 · Dec 19, 2003, 03:23 PM

What I can't blow up a building that doesn't even exist yet?!?! Screw you guys. I'm going home...

mitchell_pgh · Dec 19, 2003, 03:24 PM

I would just like to know what the image was of...

Also, does anyone have a link to a high res version of the new tower image?

benb · Dec 19, 2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
I'm kind of on the whole glass tower thing. Shouldn't we be trying to build a tower that's harder to blow up rather than one that's easier?

Heck, the old WTC survived an earlier bombing attempt a few years before 9/11 - it took the terrorists a few tries before they were able to bring it down. A glass tower would go down in a heartbeat.

It sure would give me the willies if I had to work in there...

It's all right, the workers will be instructed not to throw stones, and all stones within a stones throw of the new tower will be seized by local authorities.

benb · Dec 19, 2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I would just like to know what the image was of...

Also, does anyone have a link to a high res version of the new tower image?

An animated GIF of a plane driving into the proposed tower.

Ratm · 06:28 PM

snip......should have worded better.

mitchell_pgh · Dec 19, 2003, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by benb:
An animated GIF of a plane driving into the proposed tower.

Very mature... ugh You should have left it up so the rest of us could make fun of him...

FYI, this building is going to be the largest building in the world by a solid 300 feet.

1776 Feet with an extra "hat" that will make it over 2000+ feet...

Technically, the Petronas Towers have a "hat" on top to make them larger then the Sears tower. The highest" office space is still in the Sears tower.

A "hat" being a non livable decorative antenna.

1. Petronas Towers (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) - 1,483 ft (452 m)
2. Sears Tower (Chicago, USA) - 1,454 ft (443 m)
3. Jin Mao Building (Shanghai, China) - 1,379 ft (420 m)
4. Empire State Building (New York City, USA) - 1,250 ft (381 m)
5. Central Plaza (Hong Kong, China) - 1,227 ft (374 m)
6. Bank of China (Hong Kong, China) - 1,209 ft (369 m)
7. Emirates Towers (Dubai, UAE) - 1,149 ft (350 m)
8. The Centre (Hong Kong, China) - 1,149 ft (350 m)
8. T&C Tower (Kaohsiung, Taiwan) - 1,140 ft (347 m)
10. Amoco Building (Chicago, USA) - 1,136 ft (344 m)

mitchell_pgh · Dec 19, 2003, 03:56 PM

I think they should have thought about the name a bit more. "Freedom Tower" seems so commercial. I would rather have the name of the developers rather then "Freedom". Perhaps "Independence" or even "Liberty".

GoGoReggieXPowars · Dec 19, 2003, 03:58 PM

1776 ft

This is what is known as "piling it on a bit thick."

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 19, 2003, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I think they should have thought about the name a bit more. "Freedom Tower" seems so commercial. I would rather have the name of the developers rather then "Freedom". Perhaps "Independence" or even "Liberty".

How about the Freedom Fries Tower then?

Axo1ot1 · Dec 19, 2003, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
How about the Freedom Fries Tower then?

yes

petehammer · Dec 19, 2003, 04:18 PM

Why not, oh I don't know, the "World Trade Center"?

I know, call me crazy, but perhaps we don't have to beat people over the head with the "Freedom" BS and instead call it like it is - assuming it will again be a World Trade Center.

Honestly, I think the observation deck/memorial area is a good idea and all, but let's not go crazy on naming the damn thing. Next thing you know it'll be changed from "Freedom" to "War on Terror Tower"

typoon · Dec 19, 2003, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by petehammer:
Why not, oh I don't know, the "World Trade Center"?

I know, call me crazy, but perhaps we don't have to beat people over the head with the "Freedom" BS and instead call it like it is - assuming it will again be a World Trade Center.

Honestly, I think the observation deck/memorial area is a good idea and all, but let's not go crazy on naming the damn thing. Next thing you know it'll be changed from "Freedom" to "War on Terror Tower"

I agree with this. This name has GOT TO GO!!! The NEW World Trade Center would have been a better name. People would probably say that that name is not good because it reminds them too much of the WTC well It's a lot better name than Freedom Tower.

HOw bout the Spire tower

MacGorilla · Dec 19, 2003, 06:03 PM

How about **** You Osama Tower?

Superchicken · Dec 19, 2003, 06:24 PM

New Tower in New York?

Or The New Trade Center?

The name does sound dumb...

Spheric Harlot · Dec 19, 2003, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by typoon:
HOw bout the Spire tower

"The Tower Tower"????

Uh, no.

The inimitable American sense for pathos will probably push through, and the building will suffer the atrocious name "Freedom Tower" after all.

However, a counterargument:

There is already an identically stupidly-named building in Miami, Florida:
http://miami.about.com/cs/generalinf...eedomtower.htm

-s*

BlackGriffen · Dec 19, 2003, 06:42 PM

If they go through on naming it "freedom tower", I'm going to call it French Tower.

Don't they mean the same thing?

BlackGriffen

Spheric Harlot · Dec 19, 2003, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by BlackGriffen:
If they go through on naming it "freedom tower", I'm going to call it French Tower.

Don't they mean the same thing?

Heh.

Well, the Statue de Libert� is French, at least.

-s*

kmkkid · Dec 19, 2003, 06:53 PM

double post.

kmkkid · Dec 19, 2003, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
Very mature... ugh You should have left it up so the rest of us could make fun of him...

FYI, this building is going to be the largest building in the world by a solid 300 feet.

1776 Feet with an extra "hat" that will make it over 2000+ feet...

Technically, the Petronas Towers have a "hat" on top to make them larger then the Sears tower. The highest" office space is still in the Sears tower.

A "hat" being a non livable decorative antenna.

1. Petronas Towers (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) - 1,483 ft (452 m)
2. Sears Tower (Chicago, USA) - 1,454 ft (443 m)
3. Jin Mao Building (Shanghai, China) - 1,379 ft (420 m)
4. Empire State Building (New York City, USA) - 1,250 ft (381 m)
5. Central Plaza (Hong Kong, China) - 1,227 ft (374 m)
6. Bank of China (Hong Kong, China) - 1,209 ft (369 m)
7. Emirates Towers (Dubai, UAE) - 1,149 ft (350 m)
8. The Centre (Hong Kong, China) - 1,149 ft (350 m)
8. T&C Tower (Kaohsiung, Taiwan) - 1,140 ft (347 m)
10. Amoco Building (Chicago, USA) - 1,136 ft (344 m)

CN Tower (Toronto, Canada) - 1815 ft.

Without fancy pancy *unusable* gridwork.

Chris

MacGorilla · Dec 19, 2003, 07:16 PM

Call it "The Big Damn Tower That Doesn't Need A Name Because Its Big And Is There, Man"

thunderous_funker · Dec 19, 2003, 07:23 PM

"Tower of Power" ??

"Our Glascock Is Bigger Than Yours" ??

"All Natural Skyline Enhancement" ??

AutoJC · Dec 19, 2003, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by starman:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast...lan/index.html

Mike

Not bad.

I liked Libeskind's original concept better, though.

AutoJC · Dec 19, 2003, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by benb:
Awesome, but the name has got to go.

Call it the World Trade Tower instead.

ReggieX · Dec 19, 2003, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by kmkkid:
CN Tower (Toronto, Canada) - 1815 ft.

Without fancy pancy *unusable* gridwork.

Not an office building

kmkkid · Dec 19, 2003, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by ReggieX:
Not an office building

Still the reigning champion of towers though!

Chris

Zoom_zoom · Dec 19, 2003, 07:58 PM

I don't mind it's design, infact I think it's pretty funky,
but the name seriously has to go..

Misanthrope · Dec 19, 2003, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
How about the Freedom Fries Tower then?

How about a few hundred thousand troops invade Canada? I mean "occupy".

It'd be kicking rad to see you call yourself an American.

Hell, I bet it'll happen one way or another within 100 years.

undotwa · Dec 19, 2003, 08:22 PM

I don't like it.

CharlesS · Dec 19, 2003, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Misanthrope:
How about a few hundred thousand troops invade Canada? I mean "occupy".

It'd be kicking rad to see you call yourself an American.

Hell, I bet it'll happen one way or another within 100 years.

Sheesh, don't give the powers that be ideas.

Misanthrope · Dec 19, 2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Sheesh, don't give the powers that be ideas.

Believe me, there's no military strategy or maneuver that hasn't been pre-planned by the US Military.

kmkkid · Dec 19, 2003, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Misanthrope:
How about a few hundred thousand troops invade Canada? I mean "occupy".

It'd be kicking rad to see you call yourself an American.

Hell, I bet it'll happen one way or another within 100 years.

Then the killer penguins and polar bears will come down and eat y'all. Maybe even the walking killer whales, if they arn't busy that is.

Chris

Socially Awkward Solo · Dec 19, 2003, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Misanthrope:

Hell, I bet it'll happen one way or another within 100 years.

100 years? Wow, you will be 117 then

Misanthrope · Dec 19, 2003, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
100 years? Wow, you will be 117 then

Good god you're ****ing stupid.

mixin visuals · Dec 19, 2003, 10:37 PM

wow, its a monster

dtriska · Dec 19, 2003, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by Misanthrope:
How about a few hundred thousand troops invade Canada? I mean "occupy".

It'd be kicking rad to see you call yourself an American.

Hell, I bet it'll happen one way or another within 100 years.

The way Americans pick their government, yeah, it's possible. That's the scary thing.

Then again, you have to wonder why it is we live so close to the US border. What is it that we keep in the north, along the tundra?

Misanthrope · Dec 19, 2003, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by dtriska:
Then again, you have to wonder why it is we live so close to the US border. What is it that we keep in the north, along the tundra?

Um, what?