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10.5.6 is here!!!!!
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Dec 15, 2008, 01:35 PM
 
Shows up as a 190mb download in Software Update
     
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Is it snappier?

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CatOne: are you downloading now?
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 02:05 PM
 
It took two posts for somebody to use the snappy line.



Did anybody else find it rather weird that Apple mentions fixes for ATI GPUs when it's actually the NVIDIA GPUs that seem to be causing most of the graphics-related issues?
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 02:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
CatOne: are you downloading now?
I've been running it for a while. I don't see increases in snappiness, though it's been perfectly stable.
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 02:36 PM
 
now has a 6© in place of a 5©!!

actually, so far so good...(but of course i've been running it for only 12 minutes). an impressive list of 'fixes' tho... 10.5.6
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Dec 15, 2008, 02:47 PM
 
Showed up as 377MB on my end - downloading now, thanks.
     
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Originally Posted by kylef View Post
Showed up as 377MB on my end - downloading now, thanks.
here too (alu macbook), 377mb...
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Dec 15, 2008, 02:54 PM
 
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here too (alu macbook), 377mb...
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I got a dual reboot on my Intel iMac.
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 03:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Did anybody else find it rather weird that Apple mentions fixes for ATI GPUs when it's actually the NVIDIA GPUs that seem to be causing most of the graphics-related issues?
No. It's not weird at all. There are still lots of Macs (my Intel iMac, for one) that have ATI GPUs in them. And just because you're not currently hearing about problems with ATI GPUs doesn't mean there are no problems with them.

What *would* be weird would be if Apple mentioned one company's chips received fixes but not the other. There would be a huge outcry among those with the one that was "left out."
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 03:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by Person Man View Post
No. It's not weird at all. There are still lots of Macs (my Intel iMac, for one) that have ATI GPUs in them. And just because you're not currently hearing about problems with ATI GPUs doesn't mean there are no problems with them.

What *would* be weird would be if Apple mentioned one company's chips received fixes but not the other. There would be a huge outcry among those with the one that was "left out."
Would that mean that you have been left out since your machine was released?

Just food for thought.
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Dec 15, 2008, 03:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by fisherKing View Post
an impressive list of 'fixes' tho... 10.5.6
hmmm ... don't see anything there that I need. I'll stick at 10.5.4 for now.
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 03:59 PM
 
You guinea pigs go right ahead. I'll wait till the dust settles

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Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Did anybody else find it rather weird that Apple mentions fixes for ATI GPUs when it's actually the NVIDIA GPUs that seem to be causing most of the graphics-related issues?
Considering that the NVIDIA problems are actually caused by defective chips, why would you expect Apple to fix those with a driver update?
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 04:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
You guinea pigs go right ahead. I'll wait till the dust settles

-t
i've updated everything without hesitation since 10.2, and never had a problem (with the updates anyway).

no matter what else, you know the forum: someone will have a perfect experience, someone will have a terrible experience. someone will report their mac faster, someone else will see a slowdown. and so on.

me, i always back up first, then dive in. it's fun..
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Originally Posted by Dale Sorel View Post
I got a dual reboot on my Intel iMac.
Same here.
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 04:35 PM
 
Weird... Finder shows 10.5.8 now! was it already like this before the update?
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 04:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by pat++ View Post
Weird... Finder shows 10.5.8 now! was it already like this before the update?
The Finder shows version 10.5.6 on my OS 10.5.5 MBP.

In other news, OS 10.5.6 includes a MobileMe syncing improvement.

"Contacts, calendars, and bookmarks on a Mac automatically sync within a minute of the change being made on the computer, another device, or the web at me.com."
I gotta have more cowbell.
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 04:58 PM
 
Can't say I notice any change, as expected, but nice to have an updated system anyway. Clean download and install - all seems ok.
     
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Originally Posted by pat++ View Post
Weird... Finder shows 10.5.8 now! was it already like this before the update?
10.5.6 on os x 10.5.5, and now 10.5.8...but who spends time at coreservices reading version numbers??
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Dec 15, 2008, 05:00 PM
 
Whereas before there was no tricking me, the big news now is that "10.5.6" looks kinda like "10.6.5".
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Originally Posted by Dale Sorel View Post
I got a dual reboot on my Intel iMac.
That's normal and part of the install process.
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Originally Posted by Ted L. Nancy View Post
Whereas before there was no tricking me, the big news now is that "10.5.6" looks kinda like "10.6.5".
I just finished the update on my iMac, and I'm not seeing anything major. What makes you say it looks like "10.6.5?"

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I just finished the update on my iMac, and I'm not seeing anything major. What makes you say it looks like "10.6.5?"
Apple Menu -> About This Mac ... then look at the version number from far away, double-blink, and Voila! The 5 and 6 have transposed.
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Dec 15, 2008, 05:52 PM
 
This might be my imagination but I don't think it is. Prior to updating I had 8.95 GB available on my HD (I checked earlier today). Now I have 9.55 GB available!

Is this normal or did I lose something? I'm checking...
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Dec 15, 2008, 06:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
That's normal and part of the install process.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. I just wanted to mention that installing 10.5.6 includes a dual reboot.
     
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Originally Posted by dzp111 View Post
This might be my imagination but I don't think it is. Prior to updating I had 8.95 GB available on my HD (I checked earlier today). Now I have 9.55 GB available!

Is this normal or did I lose something? I'm checking...
Virtual memory swap gets cleared on reboot.
     
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Virtual memory swap gets cleared on reboot.
Thanks. I'll stop checking now.

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Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
hmmm ... don't see anything there that I need. I'll stick at 10.5.4 for now.
So you don't like the included OS X security updates either?

That's usually why I always do the updates. I usually don't have the problems mentioned in most updates but I do like the security updates. It's also easier to get help when my system is similar to others.
     
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Originally Posted by Dale Sorel View Post
I got a dual reboot on my Intel iMac.
I got booted into bootcamp...
     
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Considering that the NVIDIA problems are actually caused by defective chips, why would you expect Apple to fix those with a driver update?
No, not all the problems.

There are problems with the NVIDIA chips not related to any defects. Some are driver related. This is made clear when dual booting Windows/Mac OS. Many of the problems people assume are because of faulty hardware are actually driver related, because they go away when you boot into Windows.

If they were hardware related, you'd have pretty much the same problem whether you booted either operating system.
     
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Considering that the NVIDIA problems are actually caused by defective chips, why would you expect Apple to fix those with a driver update?
Because I had my logic board replaced, and all my problems still remain. So either the problems are software-related, or the replacement GPU was defective in exactly the same way as the first one (which, knowing the way NVidia's quality assurance is, wouldn't actually surprise me).

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Dec 15, 2008, 07:39 PM
 
Twice I had the problem where it halted at configuring installation. The combo update appears to have been a success.

For some reason, upon 10.5.6 boot, Spotlight insisted on reindexing my HD.

I had run Disk Utility via install DVD boot and the drive checked fine.

This is my worst Apple updater experience in a very long time. Enough with the damn iPhones, Apple, work on the Mac update's quality!
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Dec 15, 2008, 07:53 PM
 
No problems here. Then again, I didn't have any problems before the update either.
     
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Dec 15, 2008, 10:28 PM
 
Improves the performance and reliability of Chess.

AT LAST!!!

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Originally Posted by dzp111 View Post
This might be my imagination but I don't think it is. Prior to updating I had 8.95 GB available on my HD (I checked earlier today). Now I have 9.55 GB available!

Is this normal or did I lose something? I'm checking...
I've seen that before after long uptimes...I've attributed it to the swap file growing in size over time. I've had long uptimes and swap files in the >1 GB range, where a reboot brings the swapfile down to 64 MB and more free hard drive space.

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Dec 15, 2008, 11:13 PM
 
I'm definitely getting faster launch times for my apps. iCal now opens on the first bounce. Oh and no, its not because I restarted!

On a side note, I had run permissions repair before the update just for kicks. Now after the update, I have tons of changed permissions
in Disk Utility. Thats odd.
Warning: SUID file "usr/bin/chpass" has been modified and will not be repaired. etc...
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Originally Posted by chris v View Post
Improves the performance and reliability of Chess.

AT LAST!!!
I'm so curious here - what specifically has been improved?
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Spaces still has the same bugs as 10.5 and is unusable. Pathetic.
     
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No probs for me, 190mb download


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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
Spaces still has the same bugs as 10.5 and is unusable. Pathetic.
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Because I had my logic board replaced, and all my problems still remain. So either the problems are software-related, or the replacement GPU was defective in exactly the same way as the first one (which, knowing the way NVidia's quality assurance is, wouldn't actually surprise me).
Indeed. And even worse, although NVidia solemnly swore that all the problems with bad materials used in previous GPUs had been resolved, unibody MBP owners with brand new 9600M GT GPUs are seeing some all too familiar problems...
     
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Dec 16, 2008, 12:15 PM
 
Looks like Apple slipped an easter egg into 10.5.6
http://gizmodo.com/5110996/apple-leo...eaks-jailbreak
     
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Originally Posted by B Gallagher View Post
I'm so curious here - what specifically has been improved?
How should I know? Who ever plays that thing, and why is Apple bothering?

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Originally Posted by dru View Post
For some reason, upon 10.5.6 boot, Spotlight insisted on reindexing my HD.
Spotlight spontaneously re-indexes my drives, whenever it sees fit. Especially the ones I've told it not to index. Really annoying.

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Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Indeed. And even worse, although NVidia solemnly swore that all the problems with bad materials used in previous GPUs had been resolved, unibody MBP owners with brand new 9600M GT GPUs are seeing some all too familiar problems...
But are they hardware related (faulty materials) or software related (faulty drivers)?

If they were hardward related, why would they go away under Windows?
     
 
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