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Roscoe
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:04 AM
 
Seriously. The lounge barely moves anymore. There's like 3 days of topics on the first page.

Sad times. Is it the weak dollar? Or could it be poor moderation banning people with personality? Or maybe people just don't care?
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:07 AM
 
I blame Dakar. Not that it's his fault, I just like to blame him.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:11 AM
 
I blame the n00bs that have joined recently.
     
Roscoe  (op)
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:15 AM
 
Well the noobs sure don't post much.
     
Jawbone54
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:16 AM
 
I blame China's Internet censorship.
     
Roscoe  (op)
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:18 AM
 
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:20 AM
 
I blame MobileMe.

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Jawbone54
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:20 AM
 
How dare you just waltz in here and shoot down the Miracle Engine™...
     
iMOTOR
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:27 AM
 
How dare you use the term “waltz in here” after 1948.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:27 AM
 
42*

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Aug 5, 2008, 12:34 AM
 
42 White text is your friend.

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andreas_g4
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:39 AM
 
Originally Posted by Stogieman View Post
42 White text is your friend.
No, he's not. He was here the other day, and we didn't quite like each other.
     
AKcrab
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:59 AM
 
I blame lerkfish.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 01:30 AM
 
The mods have become Maoist.

People just get tired and leave. Who wants to live in a virtual censored prison.

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AKcrab
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Aug 5, 2008, 01:38 AM
 
I blame Mastrap.
     
Randman
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Aug 5, 2008, 01:51 AM
 
I like it.

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AKcrab
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Aug 5, 2008, 01:52 AM
 
I blame MikeM32.
     
freudling
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Aug 5, 2008, 02:28 AM
 
What would be great is if the quality went up, rather than the same old boring, pedantic detritus that gets posted.
     
besson3c
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Aug 5, 2008, 02:34 AM
 
They say that sex sells, so I think we should have more sexy threads.
     
Laminar
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Aug 5, 2008, 02:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by freudling View Post
What would be great is if the quality went up, rather than the same old boring, pedantic detritus that gets posted.
What steps do you propose be taken to rectify the problem?
     
AKcrab
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Aug 5, 2008, 02:54 AM
 
I propose more Maxelson.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 03:09 AM
 
word.

but a lost cause, for lack of the other factors you mentioned.
     
freudling
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Aug 5, 2008, 03:16 AM
 
Laminar:

We can't change people, but maybe we can change the policies and thus the attitudes of the moderators. This place is highly constrained... warnings are given out for the most ridiculous things. It is hard to say things sometimes and threads get shut down, people with lots of experience get banned...

But I don't see any of that changing now, because MacNN wants to keep up the economy... so they have to cap our "free speech" with what looks to be unconstitutional policies and practices. Maybe it will take someone or a class action suit against their policies to smarten them up.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 03:19 AM
 
Originally Posted by iMOTOR View Post
How dare you use the term “waltz in here” after 1948.
My Netflix queue is full of B&W classics. Sue me for living in the past.

Now pardon me while I drop off my zoot suit at the cleaners.
     
subego
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Aug 5, 2008, 06:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by AKcrab View Post
I propose more Maxelson.

The Maxelson cheese thread lock was a sad day indeed.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 06:38 AM
 
I'm thinking of a couple of members from the past that have been banned. Do you folks really miss them? Seriously. This complaint resurfaces every couple of months and it's not really clear whether they are truly missed or not. Banning seems to be more or less designed to filter out disgruntled 13 year olds.

Now, what should be done is to remove the ignore option. Who joins a forum, then starts putting people on 'ignore'? I mean, do you really need a "feature" to ignore someone? That makes about as much sense as a snooze button on an alarm clock IMO.
ebuddy
     
design219
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Aug 5, 2008, 07:55 AM
 
I blame myself.

And each of you should do the same.

For shame!
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Aug 5, 2008, 07:55 AM
 
While cash comes in here and says how this place has gone downhill and its dead, etc (why then does he keep coming back?) I do believe he does have a point this time This place has slowed down, my opinion is that there's a couple of reasons:
First its summer and many people are more interested in doing activities other then sitting at a computer.
Second, we have lost some members either through banning, or just plain leaving. Those people were posting a lot (regardless of the quality) in the lounge.

While I may not be a heavy hitter, my usage here has trailed off this summer. I pop in from time to time but I've been posting less in the lounge because there is less to threads that interest me.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 08:15 AM
 
Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
My Netflix queue is full of B&W classics. Sue me for living in the past.

Now pardon me while I drop off my zoot suit at the cleaners.
I think waltz is a crackerjack word!

Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
I'm thinking of a couple of members from the past that have been banned. Do you folks really miss them? Seriously. This complaint resurfaces every couple of months and it's not really clear whether they are truly missed or not.
I can't think of any banned people I miss. Not that I can remember very many banned people.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 08:28 AM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
I think waltz is a crackerjack word!
It's the cat's pajamas!
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 08:31 AM
 
Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
It's the cat's pajamas!
Granted, you gotta have moxie to use it.
     
nonhuman
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Aug 5, 2008, 08:32 AM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
Granted, you gotta have moxie to use it.
But it's sure to cause quite the rumpus if you do.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 08:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
But it's sure to cause quite the rumpus if you do.
Alright, I'm out of terms, you bastard, but for the record, I protest this defeat on the grounds that you were alive back when said terms were still in common use.

Edit: Also, I've never heard rumpus used. Anywhere.
     
nonhuman
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Aug 5, 2008, 09:13 AM
 
How dare you call me a chiseler? If that's the way it is I'm going to dangle. Guess I'll just head back to my flop and while away the day with my main twist.

Also, apparently you've never watched Miller's Crossing.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 09:14 AM
 
Never watched? How about never heard of.
     
paul w
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Aug 5, 2008, 09:28 AM
 
I'm sick of the high hat!!!
     
andreas_g4
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Aug 5, 2008, 09:34 AM
 
obvious:

     
Laminar
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Aug 5, 2008, 10:02 AM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
I can't think of any banned people I miss. Not that I can remember very many banned people.
Agreed. Is the lounge really in a state of despair because two or three people aren't here? I'd much prefer a "dead" lounge over one filled with pointless, pedantic arguments and complaining, which is all I remember getting from a couple of the currently banned members.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 10:04 AM
 
I blame my kids, Rickey Henderson, and Carly.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 10:05 AM
 
Originally Posted by freudling View Post
Laminar:

We can't change people, but maybe we can change the policies and thus the attitudes of the moderators. This place is highly constrained... warnings are given out for the most ridiculous things. It is hard to say things sometimes and threads get shut down, people with lots of experience get banned...

But I don't see any of that changing now, because MacNN wants to keep up the economy... so they have to cap our "free speech" with what looks to be unconstitutional policies and practices. Maybe it will take someone or a class action suit against their policies to smarten them up.

You know how I feel about the rules, but why should MacNN guarantee free speech? They are a business, they need to do what makes sense for them as a business... I think part of the problem is that people don't understand that, as it hasn't been made clear why this forum even exists.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 10:11 AM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
Never watched? How about never heard of.
Fantastic flick. The Coen brothers' third movie.

It's about...ethics.

On topic: I blame wlonh.
I am stupidest when I try to be funny.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 10:28 AM
 
I blame the parents and/or poor internet/internets skills. And I also blame Dakar.
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design219
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Aug 5, 2008, 10:32 AM
 
Christ, we blame Dakar for everything around here.

Although, in this case, you're right.
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Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Christ, we blame Dakar for everything around here.

Although, in this case, you're right.
Yes, it is true. And stop calling me Christ.
( Last edited by osiris; Aug 5, 2008 at 12:18 PM. )
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Aug 5, 2008, 11:09 AM
 
It's late summer, and people are actually out doing things instead of huddling in front of their computers complaining that they can't go out and do things... I think this happens to one extent or another every year.

And as to the mods "censoring" posts and threads, we have a responsibility to keep things civil, and we work hard at that. If your idea of civil is to call people names and throw virtual poo everywhere, then you're likely to think we're oppressive. If, on the other hand, you think that being civil means that you can voice your opinion without having people act like five-year-olds and call you names, or act like emo teens and call you other names, or worse, have people act like their opinions are God-given fact, then you'll feel right at home most of the time.

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Aug 5, 2008, 11:42 AM
 
I've been slacking lately. I'll try to pick up the pace.
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 12:04 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
And as to the mods "censoring" posts and threads, we have a responsibility to keep things civil, and we work hard at that. If your idea of civil is to call people names and throw virtual poo everywhere, then you're likely to think we're oppressive. If, on the other hand, you think that being civil means that you can voice your opinion without having people act like five-year-olds and call you names, or act like emo teens and call you other names, or worse, have people act like their opinions are God-given fact, then you'll feel right at home most of the time.
Sorry, but in other words: the Lounge becomes boring as hell.

These, days, were you will get banned w/o warning for using special characters instead of a swear word, what do you expect ? Moderation in general (not yours in particular) has become near fascist. Yeah, keeping it real nice and clean.

-t
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 01:46 PM
 
ghporter: with your blessing I would happily revive Butthawk. People liked him.
     
freudling
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Aug 5, 2008, 02:41 PM
 
ghporter:

More dogmatic arguing... There. is. too. much. censorship.

But it's fun is it not? To control people over the internet?
     
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Aug 5, 2008, 02:48 PM
 
No one is censoring you now. In your nearly 1000 posts, I found only two that were deleted (one by accident, it appears).

However, a censorship or general moderation policy discussion is best suited for Feedback.
     
 
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