[spauldingg]

Darth, I smoked weed multiple times on daily basis for three years. And then one day I stopped for no real reason.

20 years ago.

STFU

[ambush]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

I know the diff its actually pretty easy, an addict is one who knows he has a problem (either recovering or not) a drug user is someone who is denial and thinks doing drugs is ok and can quit when ever he(or she) wants to but the funny thing is they never do (or cannot because they're addicted)

Let me guess.

You've done coke, alcohol or heroin, you ruined your miserable life and then you went on a crusade against drugs.

Guess what? Drugs are not necessarily a PROBLEM in one's life. They can bring positive experiences.
So **** you and let me be. Stay on topic.

[spauldingg]

Man, I was so friggen creative in those days. Makes me wanna roll one and drag out my easel.

[spauldingg]

Originally Posted by ort888

Have you tried fellating them?

How do you fellate a lesbian?

(oddly, Mac OS dictionary doesn't have fellate as an option. The choice is fillet! )

Ambush, i do not suggest this as an option.

[The Godfather]

Originally Posted by spauldingg

Darth, I smoked weed multiple times on daily basis for three years. And then one day I stopped for no real reason.

20 years ago.

STFU

Show us that you are the norm, and not the exception.

[ambush]

Originally Posted by The Godfather

Show us that you are the norm, and not the exception.

LOL, **** off. Instead, show us how smoking a joint every week or so is so bad for someone.

Here's a good start for ye
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...501729_pf.html

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by ambush

Let me guess.

You've done coke, alcohol or heroin, you ruined your miserable life and then you went on a crusade against drugs.

Guess what? Drugs are not necessarily a PROBLEM in one's life. They can bring positive experiences.
So **** you and let me be. Stay on topic.

Nope never did and happy I never did or will

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by ambush

LOL, **** off. Instead, show us how smoking a joint every week or so is so bad for someone.

Here's a good start for ye
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...501729_pf.html

Its easy just talk to the stoners around town, they're typically on the streets paranoid have no short term memory what so ever, can't hold down a job. Yeah weed doesn't do anyhing too ya. Just like the tobacco industry has said that cigarettes are safe.

[d4nth3m4n]

how long are you in the place? if it's into the fall, try to make amends, if it isn't, F*ck them, there are more than enough [free] things to do when the days are this long and the weather is this nice that you don't have to stay cooped up in an apartment.

no sense getting all worked up over this- if you're only there for a short amount of time, just ignore them. hell, start labeling the **** in the fridge that's yours.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by ambush

LOL, **** off. Instead, show us how smoking a joint every week or so is so bad for someone.

Well, I used to know this geezer who smoked a couple of biftas per day. He votes for this guy...



...so he can't be all there in the head.

[spauldingg]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

Its easy just talk to the stoners around town, they're typically on the streets paranoid have no short term memory what so ever, can't hold down a job. Yeah weed doesn't do anyhing too ya. Just like the tobacco industry has said that cigarettes are safe.

My, aren't you just the most flawless human who ever tread the Earths rough soil. Tell your mother, Mary, I said hi.

[ambush]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

Nope never did and happy I never did or will

Denial's not just the name of a river in Egypt.

Sorry I had to copy your lame line

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by spauldingg

My, aren't you just the most flawless human who ever tread the Earths rough soil. Tell your mother, Mary, I said hi.

Maybe all of those years of doing drugs (as you yourself admitted) did something to your brain because I never said I was perfect. Just because I don't do drugs or want to do drugs means I'm perfect. smart yes but perfect no.

[davesimondotcom]

Originally Posted by spauldingg

Man, I was so friggen creative in those days. Makes me wanna roll one and drag out my easel.

Do you still have the art you made? Because my bet is you'll have to blaze up to still think that it was as good as you thought back then.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by davesimondotcom

Do you still have the art you made? Because my bet is you'll have to blaze up to still think that it was as good as you thought back then.

/Cue flashback to "mornings after" when the first thing anyone would say is "man, that sounds crap, we're going to have to do it again without blazing up this time".

[Kerrigan]

Last night what we talked about made so much sense, but now the haze has descended it don't make no sense anymore /Arctic Monkeys

[spauldingg]

Here's one. The canvas has become a little dirty over the years:

Homage to Imhotep. Oil on canvas. Circa: Lost in pothaze B.C.

http://www.designasaur.com/media/ima...ow/imhotep.jpg

[chris v]

Originally Posted by ambush

I haven't smoked any weed in 3 weeks and I'm not craving or anything. I'm just saying it'd be nice to have some weed.

That's all good. I smoked a lot in my youth, and just got tired of it one day. It made me too stupid for the real world, and I didn't enjoy the buzz anymore so I quit. Never had a real craving, either. Some people get their knickers in a twist if they run out, though.

Don't know what to tell you bout the roomies though, except don't push. Maybe the weren't seeking companionship, & just wanted help with the bills.

[spauldingg]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

Maybe all of those years of doing drugs (as you yourself admitted) did something to your brain because I never said I was perfect. Just because I don't do drugs or want to do drugs means I'm perfect. smart yes but perfect no.

Smart enough to use reasonably decent punctuation and grammar?

[spauldingg]

So don't do drugs. Live your life your way. And if your way of life means being a judgmental ahole, then by all means live your judgmental ahole life your way. But keep it under your breath, and live your boring judgmental life with your boring "just like me, we have nothing to talk about because we all think the same" friggen judgmental ahole friends.

[Salty]

I'm a weird gay now?

[phillryu]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

I know the diff its actually pretty easy, an addict is one who knows he has a problem (either recovering or not) a drug user is someone who is denial and thinks doing drugs is ok and can quit when ever he(or she) wants to but the funny thing is they never do (or cannot because they're addicted)

If you feel the exact same way about alcohol, aka there's no such thing as non-addicted users, then maybe I'll respect your principles at least, maybe a little bit.

[moonmonkey]

Originally Posted by pooka

Just the fact that they're pricks AND drank your damn beer.

Gays don't drink beer, they drink banana daiquiris.
Everyone knows that.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by moonmonkey

Gays don't drink beer, they drink banana daiquiris.
Everyone knows that.

And Carntinis!

[moonmonkey]

Originally Posted by Salty

And Carntinis!

Im pretty sure you got that wrong

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by spauldingg

Smart enough to use reasonably decent punctuation and grammar?

Smart enough to know that I don't have good grammar - but then I really don't care

[Ulrich Kinbote]

Originally Posted by stwain2003

Wow. They're homosexual and you're drug addicts. Sounds like one place I don't want to live...

Stoner ≠ drug Addict.

[The Godfather]

Originally Posted by Ambush

Originally Posted by The Godfather

Show us that you are the norm, and not the exception.

LOL, **** off. Instead, show us how smoking a joint every week or so is so bad for someone.

Here's a good start for ye
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...501729_pf.html

"LOL **** off"?

Dude, I only made a statement that non-addicted drug users are a minority. Why don't you address that?

[darth-vader000]

Originally Posted by phillryu

If you feel the exact same way about alcohol, aka there's no such thing as non-addicted users, then maybe I'll respect your principles at least, maybe a little bit.

My self worth is not based on your respect. Nor is morality based upon popularity; wrong is wrong and no matter how much justifying occurs, you cannot change that one little fact.

If you or the OP want to destroy your life using drugs that's your decision but the sad thing is, people who do so usually hurt others in the process, friends, familiy innocent bystanders etc. So even the argument "its my life and I'm not hurting anyone" doesn't hold water.

Alcohol while abused can produce similar results but is legal. For the record, I don't drink.

[moodymonster]

maybe they don't like men.

mmm lesbians...

[moodymonster]

preferably bi-sexual lesbians...

[finboy]

Originally Posted by ambush

But since we're not homosexual, they are just ignoring us. And it's making our stay pretty... annoying.

If they're French and you're Quebecois, that could explain the cold shoulder.

[Goldfinger]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Goldfinger, where are you moving your company to?

Back to Belgium. We already have one in Belgium but we're probably going to expand that one, start concentrating on other markets and sell our French company.
And it's actually still my dad's company, it's not mine. Not yet anyway

[phillryu]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

My self worth is not based on your respect. Nor is morality based upon popularity; wrong is wrong and no matter how much justifying occurs, you cannot change that one little fact.

If you or the OP want to destroy your life using drugs that's your decision but the sad thing is, people who do so usually hurt others in the process, friends, familiy innocent bystanders etc. So even the argument "its my life and I'm not hurting anyone" doesn't hold water.

Alcohol while abused can produce similar results but is legal. For the record, I don't drink.

Ok, that's cool. So out of curiosity, disregarding alcohol's legality for a sec here, we all know it's caused way more damage than any other drug on the planet, what's your position on that? Wrong's wrong right? Or does it being legal make it "all right" in your eyes to ignore? Then on the other hand, you call it something that "while abused can produce similar results". So you're saying it's possible to use it without abusing it? I mean, I agree with that, I think lots of people can enjoy a beer or two ocassionally without being an alcoholic in any definition of the word.

And again on the legality, it seems to redeem alcohol for you to some degree, at least to the point of ignoring it. So what if weed's legal, like in Amsterdam? Does that make it OK for them, but we're still hopeless addicts?

How far does it go anyway? Caffeine is a 'drug' that a lot of people are addicted to, and can't function without. Video games like World of Warcraft can easily be, in my opinion, more destructive and addictive for most people than weed, should it be made illegal? (Seriously, I know more people who've flushed their lives down the toilet with WoW than weed for sure.) At this point, I'm not really concerned with arguing you about whether weed use is acceptable or not, since you're obviously not going to change your mind. I'm just curious how your positions extend into other areas.

And this one's really purely out of curiosity, you don't have to answer it of course. How old are you? And are these opinions at all affected by your religion? (I have Mormon friends who won't even touch caffeine, and I'm fine with that.)

[Stradlater]

Good post, phillryu.

[Kevin]

I agree, and I am not pro pot.

ANYTHING abused is a bad thing.

I am all about moderation.

It's not the substance that is bad in itself. But those that make it the center of their lives.

[jamil5454]

Originally Posted by phillryu

Ok, that's cool. So out of curiosity, disregarding alcohol's legality for a sec here, we all know it's caused way more damage than any other drug on the planet, what's your position on that? Wrong's wrong right? Or does it being legal make it "all right" in your eyes to ignore? Then on the other hand, you call it something that "while abused can produce similar results". So you're saying it's possible to use it without abusing it? I mean, I agree with that, I think lots of people can enjoy a beer or two ocassionally without being an alcoholic in any definition of the word.

And again on the legality, it seems to redeem alcohol for you to some degree, at least to the point of ignoring it. So what if weed's legal, like in Amsterdam? Does that make it OK for them, but we're still hopeless addicts?

How far does it go anyway? Caffeine is a 'drug' that a lot of people are addicted to, and can't function without. Video games like World of Warcraft can easily be, in my opinion, more destructive and addictive for most people than weed, should it be made illegal? (Seriously, I know more people who've flushed their lives down the toilet with WoW than weed for sure.) At this point, I'm not really concerned with arguing you about whether weed use is acceptable or not, since you're obviously not going to change your mind. I'm just curious how your positions extend into other areas.

And this one's really purely out of curiosity, you don't have to answer it of course. How old are you? And are these opinions at all affected by your religion? (I have Mormon friends who won't even touch caffeine, and I'm fine with that.)

Since weed is illegal, the biggest way it's harmful to you is when you get caught with it. It doesn't matter whether the law is wrong or right, you're still going to jail.

I'm not here to bash weed, but I haven't seen any stoners with high ambitions and vitality about life, at least in my group of friends.

And ambush, about your roommates, forget them. I wouldn't worry yourself too much, and not everyone can be your friend. It's ok to make enemies. I personally wouldn't ever live with a homosexual couple though... it just irks me too much in too many different ways.

[Ulrich Kinbote]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

wrong is wrong and no matter how much justifying occurs, you cannot change that one little fact.

"Wrong is wrong"? Come on. That's an ipsedixitism that forecloses any rational resolution to the argument. The age of moral relativism doesn't completely leave us without any sense of right and wrong, but it should at least inspire an open-minded reserve about condemning other people's way of life.

Plus it's just completely infantile. ****. I hope you're never my lawyer.

P.S.

Don't smoke pot.

[Kevin]

Hey man where did you go?
Thought I, but I guess
I don't know you
Gave you my heart
You looked to take it apart
Hey man what did you do?
Walked away we weren't through
Last time was a fake shaken head
Now I think it must be said

Hey man
Can't be everybody's friend
Hey man
Can't be everybody's friend

[Ulrich Kinbote]

P.P.S.

My wife just passed me and saw I was replying to a "Gay roommates" thread. That should keep her on her toes.

[Kr0nos]

Originally Posted by darth-vader000

right, you do drugs but your not a drug addict. Denial is not just a river in egypt.

WTF are you talking about? I did drugs for more than ten years (smoking up to 10 joints a day) and never was addicted. One day (11 years ago) I just stoppped cold, and never touched another spliff (or bong) again.

Quitting pot is a lot easier than quitting cigs (or alcohol for that matter).

If I ever decide to pick up doing drugs again, I'll do so - no fu<king matter what anybody thinks.

[Kevin]

No aggravation Kronos? No insomnia? None? Really?

You must be Superman.

Just being honest here.

No, not like quitting cigs. You are right about that. (I've done that too) But not as innocent as you make it out to be.

Or you were smoking some crap.

[Kr0nos]

Originally Posted by Kevin

No aggravation Kronos? No insomnia? None? Really?

Nope. But I have thought about starting again in the last couple of years.

Originally Posted by Kevin

But not as innocent as you make it out to be.

We're talking about pot here, not smack or blow. People who have a problem with quitting marijuana usually don't want to change their life-style, so they just keep on doing it.

I know some people who started smoking pot when I did and just never quit (some never even slowed down). They all hold jobs, and are (at least some of the time :-D) productive folks.

Of course I can't make any claims on how easy or tough it is for people to quit smoking-up. I'm just relaying what I've experienced. But calling everybody who does pot for recreational purposes a 'drug-addicted' is stupid at best.

[Kevin]

Addiction is there. Just not at the same amounts.

THC stores in your fat cells longer. If you are skinny, and have a high metabolism, the release is faster, and you do get a slight withdrawal.

If you are big have fat cells out the yahoo it's not as bad.

But I have yet to meet ANYONE that was a habitual smoker for years not go through some sort of insomnia from it.

Was you also drinking at the time?

[Kr0nos]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Addiction is there. Just not at the same amounts.

I guess it all depends on what kind of images the term 'drug-addict' conjures up.

For me at least, there is a world of a difference (especially in terms of physical addiction, the criminal activities involved etc.) between a heroin junky, a crack-addict or somebody who smokes the occasional joint (or, yes, 5-10 joints)

I personally never felt any physical (or psychological) discomfort from quitting (nor do I know of anybody who has)

Originally Posted by Kevin

Was you also drinking at the time?

Also, just recreationally (at parties, on the week-end). It might be possible that had I only done pot and nothing else, I could have experienced some (slight) withdrawal symptoms. Who knows.

[stwain2003]

This thread is reallllly pissing me off. Ambush, to be frank, you are the stupidest person on this forum. You know the first sign of not liking someone is not telling them where you can get weed. What jackasses they are. You should be thankful for them not telling you because you are stupid for doing it. Pot users have been so brnainwashed into thinking its okay it scares the crap outta me. It IS in fact bad for your health, as it gives you horrible respiratory symptoms later on. It makes you slow and stupid. You don't recognize it because you are the slow and stupid one. Also, darthvader or whatever his name is is correct. thanks!!

[Ulrich Kinbote]

When stupid people smoke pot, people blame the pot for their stupidity. But they were stupid to begin with. I met a guy who smoked before exams and often topped the class. I think the detrimental effect on intelligence is overestimated by non-pot-smokers. The effect is there, but it's negligible. As negligible as the "intellectually enhancing" effects of coffee and cigarettes. Caffeine and nicotine might make someone fractionally more focused, but a chain-smoking coffee-guzzling dumass is still gonna be a dumass. Some goes with pot--mutatis mutandis.

[phillryu]

Originally Posted by stwain2003

This thread is reallllly pissing me off. Ambush, to be frank, you are the stupidest person on this forum. You know the first sign of not liking someone is not telling them where you can get weed. What jackasses they are. You should be thankful for them not telling you because you are stupid for doing it. Pot users have been so brnainwashed into thinking its okay it scares the crap outta me. It IS in fact bad for your health, as it gives you horrible respiratory symptoms later on. It makes you slow and stupid. You don't recognize it because you are the slow and stupid one. Also, darthvader or whatever his name is is correct. thanks!!

I've been working on Jean on software for the Mac, just got back from the bookstore, the magazine iCreate had a two page spread on one of them (Menuet). Jean's the programmer, and he's been anything but slow and stupid with this app's development. Did you accomplish much more than him by his age? (18 or 19?)

EDIT: To make this more clear, the Jean I'm speaking of is ambush.

[Ulrich Kinbote]

Originally Posted by phillryu

I've been working on Jean on software for the Mac, just got back from the bookstore, the magazine iCreate had a two page spread on one of them (Menuet). Jean's the programmer, and he's been anything but slow and stupid with this app's development. Did you accomplish much more than him by his age? (18 or 19?)

Is it just me, or would this be a stronger argument if you mentioned that Jean smokes pot?

[stwain2003]

Originally Posted by phillryu

I've been working on Jean on software for the Mac, just got back from the bookstore, the magazine iCreate had a two page spread on one of them (Menuet). Jean's the programmer, and he's been anything but slow and stupid with this app's development. Did you accomplish much more than him by his age? (18 or 19?)

yes, i DID accomplish more than him. im only 14 and i have! i haven't smoked pot!!