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Dark Helmet · Dec 13, 2006, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

I think it would have been much more interesting to keep the Pegasus. But as we heard on the podcasts, it was also about studio space and all …�

But with the Pegasus, we could have seen even more action …�

They had to give it up for the basestars sets. To me it was worth it.

reader50 · Dec 14, 2006, 11:43 PM

Ok, I figured out how to account for the radiation field, the unusually dense starcluster, the odd-shaped starcluster that was too wide to go around, and why Galactica might be there.

Assume two stars had gone supernova, with a nebula in between. The two shock fronts would compress the nebula into a flat / wide shape, and seed it with unstable elements from both sides. You'd get a lot more stars being formed, higher gas & dust densities - and a very unusual location of interest to researchers.

The rag-tag fleet isn't focused on exploration & research, but it might be a good region to stock up on heavier metals. Such a location really would be of research interest. Supernovae are very rare, I don't think two have ever been observed around the same time and location in a galaxy. Also, the new stars formed would have unusually high levels of heavier elements. Many scientists in the fleet would go wild, and pull all the strings they could to get a closer look.

It's still unlikely for a food crisis to hit while the fleet just happens to be in such an unusual location. btw, I thought the episode was ok overall. Forgot to mention that earlier.

goMac · Dec 14, 2006, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by reader50

It's still unlikely for a food crisis to hit while the fleet just happens to be in such an unusual location. btw, I thought the episode was ok overall. Forgot to mention that earlier.

The entire show is filled with unusual things that are usually the result of a destiny laid down by the gods.

: hint hint :

Oversoul · Dec 16, 2006, 02:04 AM

I'd hate to play cards with Adama.

exca1ibur · Dec 16, 2006, 02:31 AM

I'm getting REALLY tired of this half a season @%^# these networks are doing.

Stogieman · Dec 16, 2006, 02:56 AM

So where did the rest of the fleet jump off too? I thought they needed Raptors to help them get through radiation field.

Oversoul · Dec 16, 2006, 02:58 AM

Right, but they're past the radiation field. They're on the other side, so to speak. The reason why they had to jump through it was because it would've taken too long to go around it.

MRTrauffer · Dec 16, 2006, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

So where did the rest of the fleet jump off too? I thought they needed Raptors to help them get through radiation field.

They most likely jumped to their "emergency coordinates" which are on the same side of the radiation field as the planet.

MRTrauffer · Dec 16, 2006, 12:40 PM

In other news...

The classic Battlestar series was recently added to the iTunes Music Store.

jokell82 · Dec 16, 2006, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by exca1ibur

I'm getting REALLY tired of this half a season @%^# these networks are doing.

They've been doing this for a long time now, it's not like it's a new trend...

reader50 · Dec 16, 2006, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by beginning of episode

14-inch intake?
Yeah, that's good.

The Colonials do use Imperial units.

bstone · Dec 16, 2006, 09:40 PM

OMG that was a GREAT episode!!! YAY BSG!!!!!!

mrtew · Dec 16, 2006, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by bstone

OMG that was a GREAT episode!!! YAY BSG!!!!!!

Yeah! So that was really the end of the half season?? For some reason I thought it was a two part season finale?

Dark Helmet · Dec 17, 2006, 01:28 AM

Wow that is the first episode I haven't liked since Black Market. It wasn't bad but the tension felt forced.

bstone · 04:18 PM

so it boomer in the galactica brig or did they let her go back to the basestar?

analogika · Dec 17, 2006, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by reader50

The Colonials do use Imperial units.

A half-second later, somebody in the background talks about getting a "two-meter extension".

They're mixing units. They stand no chance against the Cylons.

Peter · Dec 17, 2006, 08:41 AM

awesome episode

RAILhead · Dec 17, 2006, 09:02 AM

I didn't like it much. I'm getting scared about BSG doing some shark jumping -- especially when they waste what felt like 15 minutes showing the Chief walking...and walking...and walking...and walking...

Naaaaak · Dec 17, 2006, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

I didn't like it much. I'm getting scared about BSG doing some shark jumping -- especially when they waste what felt like 15 minutes showing the Chief walking...and walking...and walking...and walking...

I could see a great parody of this particular episode

andi*pandi · Dec 17, 2006, 11:04 AM

the starbuck/apollo thing seems a little forced. and boring. Unless they want me to like Anders and Dualla more, then well, it's working.

When they make characters stupid just to stretch a storyline, it's jumping time. Yes, I'm talking to you, Lost. Hope BSG doesn't make the same mistakes. I liked how Adama reacted to Roslin re the baby--he was pissed and there will be a conversation later. I'm glad there wasn't any stupid "adama was in on it" conspiracy theory, he went straight to Athena and Helo and gave them the info straight.

Dale Sorel · Dec 17, 2006, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

They're mixing units. They stand no chance against the Cylons.

You sound like my old chemistry teacher

Dark Helmet · Dec 17, 2006, 03:09 PM

Was the chief always that fat?

I think the thing that turned me off the most is the fact that they set up base on the planet 1k from the temple which just screamed Star Trek to me.

SirCastor · Dec 17, 2006, 05:49 PM

I also liked Adama's reaction to Roslin hiding the baby. I'm very glad to find also that he had no part of it. His reaction and subsequent actions show a lot of character.

As for the show jumping etc, It's starting to feel a bit like it, which is frustrating. I'll probably watch it through to the end, but I would be surprised if they jumped and then somehow got back on track. That's unlikely. This episode had none of the tension that Resurrection Ship pt 1 and 2 had. I wish we could get that feeling again.

I expect that BSG will be wrapped up by the end of season 4.

oh yeah, and when Anders said "You're not the first"... oooh Burn!

Dark Helmet · Dec 17, 2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by SirCastor

I also liked Adama's reaction to Roslin hiding the baby. I'm very glad to find also that he had no part of it. His reaction and subsequent actions show a lot of character.

I thought he knew about the plan no?

ThinkInsane · Dec 17, 2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I thought he knew about the plan no?

I was thinking he did as well, but given his reaction, and thinking about it subsequently, I don't believe he did.

analogika · Dec 17, 2006, 06:43 PM

He did not.

It was exclusively between Roslin, her aide, and the doctor.

Sourbook · Dec 17, 2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I think the thing that turned me off the most is the fact that they set up base on the planet 1k from the temple which just screamed Star Trek to me.

There are several events in the episode that defied coincidence. And the writers clearly addressed it through the discussion of a "higher power" at work. It's no coincidence that they found a temple that they weren't looking for. They're also saying that the Cylon's arrival at the same time is no coincidence. Add to that, both of two rivals arrive at the planet in the final hours before its star goes supernova. Higher powers indeed.

Dark Helmet · Dec 17, 2006, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sourbook

There are several events in the episode that defied coincidence. And the writers clearly addressed it through the discussion of a "higher power" at work. It's no coincidence that they found a temple that they weren't looking for. They're also saying that the Cylon's arrival at the same time is no coincidence. Add to that, both of two rivals arrive at the planet in the final hours before its star goes supernova. Higher powers indeed.

I know it just felt like an excuse for bad writing.

hart · Dec 17, 2006, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Was the chief always that fat?

you noticed that too? Maybe we just always see him in that slimming orange jump suit.

reader50 · Dec 18, 2006, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by bstone

so it boomer in the galactica ~~bridge~~ brig or did they let her go back to the basestar?

They let her go back. When you are outnumbered 4 to 1, you don't play games with diplomatic envoys. She just wasn't allowed into the conference room for another crack at Adama or Roslin.

From how Boomer acted in the corridor, like she wanted to be identified, I'm thinking she came along solely to run into Athena. She didn't seem disappointed at all when she was left with Athena in the corridor. Compare this to Cavil, who more-or-less made fun of Athena on sight.

If Boomer's answer to Hera's condition was to slip the word to Sharon, might D'Anna's answer be to grab Hera and take her along to whatever spiffy Temple the Colonials have uncovered down on the planet? I'm thinking there is a good chance the lead Heavy Raider has Baltar, D'Anna ... and Hera on board. I'm also waiting for Caprica Six to do something about being shut out.

Dark Helmet · Dec 18, 2006, 12:04 PM

OK so what did Adama think happened to the baby? It died and they cremated? If so I am surprised Roslyn left him out of the loop.

jokell82 · Dec 18, 2006, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

OK so what did Adama think happened to the baby? It died and they cremated? If so I am surprised Roslyn left him out of the loop.

If you remember, there was another baby that did die that took the place of Hera. That baby was cremated and Helo and the Chief scattered the ashes.

Millennium · Dec 18, 2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

OK so what did Adama think happened to the baby? It died and they cremated?

Apparently, yes. Some other person's ashes were given to Helo and Sharon. Only Roslin, Tory, and Cottle knew this, and now that I think about it I'm not so sure about Tory.

If so I am surprised Roslyn left him out of the loop.

I doubt Adama would have approved of the plan. He would have preferred to kill Hera outright; he was worried that her continued existence would be a major threat, and he wasn't shy about saying so. Also, he's a major skeptic when it comes to all the church/state stuff that Roslin does.

forkies · Dec 18, 2006, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I know it just felt like an excuse for bad writing.

i think so too, only because it's BSG. so far they seem to have maintained an ambiguous stance regarding the existence of a force, now they very heavily leaned in one particular way. although i enjoyed all the interesting symbolism tossed around RE: baltar, hera, etc, i hope they back off a bit more. favorite scene: baltar & his six walking down the hallway and the realization that if he's not a cylon it's the last time he'll see his ppl (who he betrayed).

analogika · Dec 18, 2006, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

OK so what did Adama think happened to the baby? It died and they cremated? If so I am surprised Roslyn left him out of the loop.

Four people were present when the baby was handed over: Roslyn, the doctor, Roslyn's aide, and the foster mother.

Adama would NEVER have stood for it. It wouldn't have been the first time he'd have contradicted Roslyn, but in this case, there would have been no provision for an overriding presidential order.

mrtew · 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

I didn't like it much. I'm getting scared about BSG doing some shark jumping -- especially when they waste what felt like 15 minutes showing the Chief walking...and walking...and walking...and walking...

Yeah it felt like 15 minutes, but the entire walking scene including exploring the temple was only 3 minutes.

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Was the chief always that fat? I think the thing that turned me off the most is the fact that they set up base on the planet 1k from the temple which just screamed Star Trek to me.

When he was walking up there I was also looking at the fat and then at how much the whole scene was like the original star trek too where they'd use normal sets with a colored lights to make the place look otherworldly. Then I started wondering what type of alien they'd run into this week. Then it hit me. There are no aliens. I think Battlestar is the first science fiction space show set on many different planets with NO ALIENS!!! Is that kinda freaky or what? Is it true? Can anyone think of any others?

My biggest question about last night ep was when the Admiral gave the Cylons his ultimatum that he'd nuke the planet and then had them escorted back to their ship, why did he let Baltar go? You'd think he's at least try to keep him on the ship to try him or question him or kick his ass.

andi*pandi · Dec 18, 2006, 10:16 PM

Firefly.

bstone · Dec 18, 2006, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by mrtew

Yeah it felt like 15 minutes, but the entire walking scene including exploring the temple was only 3 minutes.

When he was walking up there I was also looking at the fat and then at how much the whole scene was like the original star trek too where they'd use normal sets with a colored lights to make the place look otherworldly. Then I started wondering what type of alien they'd run into this week. Then it hit me. There are no aliens. I think Battlestar is the first science fiction space show set on many different planets with NO ALIENS!!! Is that kinda freaky or what? Is it true? Can anyone think of any others?

They said on New Caprica there was wildlife. Stands to reasons that counts as "alien".

olePigeon · Dec 19, 2006, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

Firefly.

Millennium · Dec 19, 2006, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

Four people were present when the baby was handed over: Roslyn, the doctor, Roslyn's aide, and the foster mother.

The foster mother didn't know where the baby had come from (she was told that an officer on Galactica was the mother, which wasn't true at the time). I'm not entirely sure that Tory (Roslin's aide) knew the truth either; it may be that only Roslin and Cottle know exactly what happened.

Adama would NEVER have stood for it. It wouldn't have been the first time he'd have contradicted Roslyn, but in this case, there would have been no provision for an overriding presidential order.

Which is exactly why Adama wasn't told.

analogika · Dec 19, 2006, 11:08 AM

Well, yeah. Of course.

hart · Dec 19, 2006, 11:24 AM

When does the second half of the season begin anyway?

---I just realized I have passed the 400 POST!! mark. It only took me 4 years. do I get a party?

Dark Helmet · Dec 19, 2006, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by hart

When does the second half of the season begin anyway?

---I just realized I have passed the 400 POST!! mark. It only took me 4 years. do I get a party?

Jan 23 10pm. At least in Canada.

I watched the last episode again and it warmed up to me a bit. I think it just put a bad taste in my mouth in the beginning with the whole "We landed on the planet right where something super important is" which happened every week in Star Trek. I'll let BSG get away with it this time

Anywho, I did notice something interesting. Roslyn is reading the scriptures and says something like "The temple of 5 was build for the 5 priests who worshiped the one whose name can never be spoken". They also mention it is 4000 years old.

So, if that temple of 5 is like Baltar and D'Anna think it is, the remaining 5 cylons are the 5 priests they are talking about. So wouldn't those 5 cylons be 4000 years old?

I also don't think Baltar is one of the remaining 5 but I do think he is "The chosen one" whatever that might be. Probably something having to do with bringing Cylons and man together unified.

hart · Dec 19, 2006, 11:39 AM

Baltar was looking a little Jesus-y walking thru the Galactica halls there. The hair, the beard, left his glasses behind ...

Chosen one indeed.

Sourbook · Dec 19, 2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by mrtew

My biggest question about last night ep was when the Admiral gave the Cylons his ultimatum that he'd nuke the planet and then had them escorted back to their ship, why did he let Baltar go? You'd think he's at least try to keep him on the ship to try him or question him or kick his ass.

Adama would strictly adhere to the protocol of a military summit.

Sourbook · Dec 19, 2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I also don't think Baltar is one of the remaining 5 but I do think he is "The chosen one" whatever that might be. Probably something having to do with bringing Cylons and man together unified.

I would think that Hera would be the "chosen one."

Peter · Dec 30, 2006, 06:06 PM

Slashdot | Battlestar Galactica DVD Movie In the Works?

is it true it hasnt been renewed for a 4th series?!

olePigeon · Dec 30, 2006, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

Slashdot | Battlestar Galactica DVD Movie In the Works?

is it true it hasnt been renewed for a 4th series?!

They did the same thing to Farscape.

xi_hyperon · Dec 30, 2006, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

Slashdot | Battlestar Galactica DVD Movie In the Works?

is it true it hasnt been renewed for a 4th series?!

Well, not yet anyway. That doesn't mean that it won't.

Dark Helmet · Dec 30, 2006, 09:47 PM

I don't see the point of a DVD movie other than a slightly higher budget.

The episodes are filmed in HD and have a film feel quality.