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renpar61 · Nov 20, 2002, 02:04 PM

I downloaded the latest nightly and I get an error unstuffing it. Has anyone experienced the same problem?

gorickey · Nov 20, 2002, 03:01 PM

Haven't tried sorry...in fact, I am going to stick with the 11/19 build for awhile, it seems to be more rock solid and faster for whatever reasons on my system.

solitere · Nov 20, 2002, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by renpar61:
I downloaded the latest nightly and I get an error unstuffing it. Has anyone experienced the same problem?

Yes!

Art Vandelay · Nov 20, 2002, 03:27 PM

Same here. Hangs Stuffit Expander. Gunzip reports unexpected end of file. There'll probably be a new archive posted before too long.

malvolio · Nov 20, 2002, 03:52 PM

Yup, me too. Must be a corrupted file. I'll try it later to see if they have put up a repaired version.

Andrew 8808 · Nov 20, 2002, 04:55 PM

If this is the same problem I have, Stuffit will open, and just not do anything. I renamed Chimera.dmg.gz to Chimera.dmg and it worked fine that way *shrug*

Millennium · Nov 20, 2002, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by malvolio:
Yup, me too. Must be a corrupted file. I'll try it later to see if they have put up a repaired version.

I had the same problem, but I'm not sure if it's with the file or with Chimera's downloading.

I cracked open the Terminal, went to the Desktop, and did a wget -c on the URL. That -c stands for continue; it will pick up where you left off before, but I didn't think it would work given that the download had been started by another program. But it worked just fine, and it's a great build.

malvolio · Nov 20, 2002, 06:53 PM

Well, wget didn't help me. It downloaded the full .gz file, but Stuffit still hangs when trying to expand it. Trying gunzip on the archive gave me "unexpected end of file."
However, about 30 minutes ago Mozilla.org posted a new version of the 11/20 nightly that does expanded properly.

mrtew · Nov 20, 2002, 07:46 PM

You guys are addicted to Chimera! Think of the poor Explorer users that only get a new version once a year. Look what you've become. Browser junkies!!! Just look at yourselves! :-]

gorickey · Nov 20, 2002, 08:07 PM

I noticed in this nightly something about "single click download/helper application" or something along those lines...what exactly does that mean?

Thanks.

Art Vandelay · Nov 20, 2002, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
I noticed in this nightly something about "single click download/helper application" or something along those lines...what exactly does that mean?

Thanks.

Actually, that will be in tomorrow's build.

I believe clicking a download link will simply download the file now without the current prompt and automatically post-process the file.

gorickey · Nov 20, 2002, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:

Actually, that will be in tomorrow's build.

I believe clicking a download link will simply download the file now without the current prompt and automatically post-process the file.

Thank god, that is what I thought it meant and what I was hoping for....awesome!

sdagley · Nov 20, 2002, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:

Actually, that will be in tomorrow's build.

I believe clicking a download link will simply download the file now without the current prompt and automatically post-process the file.

This is enabled only if you've set the pref which doesn't yet have any UI in the Chimera preferences panes. See http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169044#c5 for info on how to set the pref in the meantime.

gorickey · Nov 20, 2002, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by sdagley:

This is enabled only if you've set the pref which doesn't yet have any UI in the Chimera preferences panes. See http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169044#c5 for info on how to set the pref in the meantime.

This didn't work for me....everything is stil there in the prefs file, and the computer has been restarted. Any suggestions?

Art Vandelay · Nov 20, 2002, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:

This didn't work for me....everything is stil there in the prefs file, and the computer has been restarted. Any suggestions?

Because it's not in there yet. It will be in tomorrow's build.

BTP · Nov 21, 2002, 01:12 AM

How the hell do you know so much?

Are you in the latex industry?

Art Vandelay · 02:09 AM

Originally posted by BTP:
How the hell do you know so much?

I just know what is publicly available here.

Are you in the latex industry?

Yes. I'm also an architect, importer/exporter and a marine biologist.

gorickey · Nov 21, 2002, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:

Because it's not in there yet. It will be in tomorrow's build.

No new builds yet today...come on already!

BTP · Nov 21, 2002, 03:13 PM

Is it me or are recent builds getting less stable?

Up until the last two weeks, I have never had Chimera crash on me. Now, it crashes at least once a day. Is this the same for anyone else or is this karma coming back at me for kicking my neighbors cat?

gorickey · Nov 21, 2002, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by BTP:
Is it me or are recent builds getting less stable?

Up until the last two weeks, I have never had Chimera crash on me. Now, it crashes at least once a day. Is this the same for anyone else or is this karma coming back at me for kicking my neighbors cat?

Hmm, is it random crashes or at heavy Flash sites or something? I haven't experienced alot of crashes at all in recent builds.

Vanquish · Nov 21, 2002, 03:51 PM

I also noticed these more frequent crashes. (on normal sites, like this one, not on flash-intensive sites)

Art Vandelay · Nov 21, 2002, 03:52 PM

It's just the opposite for me. It used to crash frequently, until a few weeks ago. Now I don't remember when it last crashed. Make sure you are using the latest Flash plugin. That solved a lot of problems for me.

Art Vandelay · Nov 21, 2002, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:

No new builds yet today...come on already!

It's here now. "Single click download/helper application" is there and works!

gorickey · Nov 21, 2002, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:

It's here now. "Single click download/helper application" is there and works!

Yep, just did it myself...awesome! Love it. It did auto-open the .sit's I downloaded; however, not the .dmg's...

Thanks.

jrafter · Nov 21, 2002, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:

Yep, just did it myself...awesome! Love it. It did auto-open the .sit's I downloaded; however, not the .dmg's...

Thanks.

I give up!

How do you activate the auto-open d/l feature. Tonight's build (11/21) works just the same as previous ones for me.

Thanks in advance!

AKcrab · Nov 21, 2002, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by jrafter:

I give up!

How do you activate the auto-open d/l feature. Tonight's build (11/21) works just the same as previous ones for me.

Thanks in advance!

Did you read the thread?

Originally posted by sdagley:

This is enabled only if you've set the pref which doesn't yet have any UI in the Chimera preferences panes. See http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169044#c5 for info on how to set the pref in the meantime.

tiffer17 · Nov 21, 2002, 08:54 PM

hey wheres the file that i need to mod?
i cant find it.

gorickey · Nov 21, 2002, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by tiffer17:
hey wheres the file that i need to mod?
i cant find it.

From Chimera Developer site:

"There's no UI for enabling this pref
yet but it can be tested by adding the following line to your user.js file:

user_pref("browser.download.autoDispatch", true);

If you don't have a user.js file it's a plain text file and goes in your profile
directory at the same level as your prefs.js file"

Enjoy!

sdagley · Nov 21, 2002, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
It did auto-open the .sit's I downloaded; however, not the .dmg's...

There is a pref to automatically mount disk images after decompression in StuffIt Expander. Note that this is generally a bad idea as it's possible to have something on the disk automatically run when the image is mounted (involves a QuickTime pref).

Ozmodiar · Nov 21, 2002, 10:55 PM

holy crap that's awesome! felt like it downloaded and unstuffed quicker than normal, but i'm sure that's in my head.

oh well. good "hack"!

Art Vandelay · Nov 21, 2002, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by sdagley:

There is a pref to automatically mount disk images after decompression in StuffIt Expander. Note that this is generally a bad idea as it's possible to have something on the disk automatically run when the image is mounted (involves a QuickTime pref).

This is referring to downloading disk images, not stuffed disk images. Chimera doesn't launch the helper app when a disk image is done downloading.

BTP · Nov 21, 2002, 11:16 PM

My crashes are random, non-flash related. I am wondering if I need to kill my prefs and start over.

Simple things, like clicking a link. Crash. Click back. Crash.

It NEVER used to do this. The odd thing is that people used to complain about stability and it was a rock for me. Now, it crashes as much as IE!

smeger · Nov 22, 2002, 04:12 AM

Today's build also includes Bookmark Keywords! This one of my favorite Mozilla features.

Google search? Type 'gg attractive mullet' in the location bar to get the search results.

Need to look up synonyms? Type 'thes prostitute' in the location bar to get a thesaurus lookup.

And so on...

(I'm not really looking for prostitutes with attractive mullets, by the way)

Jim Paradise · 06:04 PM

The key to Chimera being complete for me is four things:
A viewable history for downloads.
mpg/mpeg support (apparently this will be done in a few days).
Improved typing! Make it as fast as OmniWeb and I'll be very happy.
Improved font controls... I love Chimera but fonts don't show up nearly as nicely in comparison to OmniWeb (and fonts seems to have gotten worse since the 0.4 days).

Now a nice bonus would be better java support (at least as good as IE) but this is lower on my list and isn't *key* for Chimera to be complete imho.

Chimera is still my default browser... as it has been for months.

clebin · Nov 22, 2002, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by Jim Paradise:
The key to Chimera being complete for me is three things

Hey - that's four things. Are you the Spanish Inquisition?

Chris

biscuit · Nov 22, 2002, 08:31 AM

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Sorry, obvious but had to be done...

biscuit

Mediaman_12 · Nov 22, 2002, 09:18 AM

There is only really 1 main thing that is stopping Chimera becoming my main default browser (that speed up Chimera hack makes spages almost load instantly).
Spell Checking, can the OS level Spell Checker ever be implemented into Chimera, with it's funky Carbon/Coca mix of api's.

DanMacMan · Nov 22, 2002, 09:32 AM

I have three reservations about Chimera. When will Chimera be able to block image animations like Mozilla can? Also ad blocking like Omniweb, and a new Aqua guideline following UI. When those happen, I will be a happy camper.

Montanan · Nov 22, 2002, 10:26 AM

Hmmm ... I'm only having partial success with the bookmark keywords feature in the latest nightly. My Google keyword will load Google just fine, but I can't get Chimera to transmit a Google search string typed after the keyword in the location bar.

Any suggestions? TIA --

Millennium · Nov 22, 2002, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by DanMacMan:
I have three reservations about Chimera. When will Chimera be able to block image animations like Mozilla can? Also ad blocking like Omniweb, and a new Aqua guideline following UI. When those happen, I will be a happy camper.

Image animation: Already possible via a Prefs hack. Adding a UI shouldn't be terribly difficult, but someone has to do it.

Ad blocking: Explain. Popups can already blocked, and cookies and images are likewise blockable, though I do wish they had the menus for "Block Images from this Site" and "Unblock Images from this Site" like Mozilla does. Same goes for cookies. Just a quick and eaay way of blocking stuff. Seems to me that cuts out every ad I've run across.

Aqua-compliant UI: In what ways does Chimera not comply?

bhenry · Nov 22, 2002, 12:38 PM

Any sign in the mozilla nightly notes of when the seperators cmd for the bookmarks will be added? or is it there to be enabled via the prefs?

Jan Van Boghout · Nov 22, 2002, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by smeger:
Today's build also includes Bookmark Keywords! This one of my favorite Mozilla features.

Google search? Type 'gg attractive mullet' in the location bar to get the search results.

Need to look up synonyms? Type 'thes prostitute' in the location bar to get a thesaurus lookup.

And so on...

(I'm not really looking for prostitutes with attractive mullets, by the way)

How do you make them? I don't see any special option? I'd love to "google whatever I want" again�

yukon · Nov 22, 2002, 03:17 PM

I want more options. I don't want to fiddle with preference files that are often clobbered by chimera.

If chimera matches iCab's functionality without slowing down too much, it'll be my main browser. mainly, i miss the FilterManager, DownloadManager, CookieManager, and the everuseful HTML error report. oh, and a button to close tabs like in mozilla, hitting cmd-w makes me nervous.

otherwise, great browser, I use it once in a while already. I do see crashes when it's used heavily, but that's fixed with time (iCab used to be the same way).

Jim Paradise · Nov 22, 2002, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by clebin:

Hey - that's four things. Are you the Spanish Inquisition?

Chris

*slaps forehead*
I added the fourth without even realizing that I hadn't change the original wording... looks like it's time to go edit that post!

smeger · Nov 22, 2002, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Montanan:
Hmmm ... I'm only having partial success with the bookmark keywords feature in the latest nightly. My Google keyword will load Google just fine, but I can't get Chimera to transmit a Google search string typed after the keyword in the location bar.

Any suggestions? TIA --

Here ya go...

Ron Goodman · Nov 22, 2002, 07:12 PM

I still have OmniWeb open in my dock, but with the Minimum Font Size setting, I find myself using Chimera 90% of the time these days. The Nikon USA site is a heavy Flash user and Chimera works like a charm there. I paid for OmniWeb and wish them well with 5.0, but they're losing ground.

Montanan · Nov 22, 2002, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by smeger:

Here ya go...

:: very helpful screen capture here ::

Works perfectly! Many, many thanks, dude ... I am sooo happy.

This is a fine substitute for the shortcut feature in OmniWeb, which I'd really been missing since I switched to Chimera. Now, spell check is pretty much all that's left on my wish list ...

passmaster16 · Nov 23, 2002, 01:52 AM

three things for me:
Faster typing, better plugin support, and auto form fill. Auto form fill is the only thing that I kinda miss from IE. Can't beat the speed of Chimera, and it ha been my primary browser for a few months now.

gorgonzola · Nov 23, 2002, 01:33 PM

So what shortcut URL are you using for thesaurus/dictionary lookup? Are there any other interesting ones?

So far, I have a Google item ('gg query'), a VersionTracker item ('vt query'), and a Mac OS X Hints item ('xhint query'), but I haven't found a really good thesaurus or dictionary I can use. I think I'll try a weather site next...

Montanan · Nov 23, 2002, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
So far, I have a Google item ('gg query'), a VersionTracker item ('vt query'), and a Mac OS X Hints item ('xhint query'), but I haven't found a really good thesaurus or dictionary I can use. I think I'll try a weather site next...

Gorgonzola, could you share the syntax of your queries with us? Many thanks ...

I'm tinkering around with a couple of other possibilities, although I haven't been quite clever enough to figure them out yet:

- a Google "I'm feeling lucky" query;
- an Amazon.com query;
- an eBay query.

There are definitely lots of other possibilities, as well.