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Banning the 'N' word in NYC
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Its symbolic, so I don't see how its fascist. They can't/won't punish you.
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Originally Posted by Dakar² 
Its symbolic, so I don't see how its fascist. They can't/won't punish you.
True, but don't you see this as a first step in that direction?
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I see proposing a bill to outlaw the word and punish its use the first step in that direction.
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Its going to be a serious crimp in the lives of East coast rappers.
That would take out a good third of their lyrics.
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Chris Rock's gonna have a bit of a problem on tour then.
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That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
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Originally Posted by Dakar²
I see proposing a bill to outlaw the word and punish its use the first step in that direction.
Ah - it's a matter of opinion then. I see your bill as the second step, enforcement the third.
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Originally Posted by osiris
it's a matter of opinion then.
As opposed to?
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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious
Its going to be a serious crimp in the lives of East coast rappers.
That would take out a good third of their lyrics.
I guess there is a postive side to this.
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Originally Posted by Dakar²
As opposed to?
The ban is the first step, the law is the second step, actual enforcement is the third.
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Originally Posted by osiris
The ban is the first step, the law is the second step, actual enforcement is the third.
I'm asking what you were expecting other than an opinion.
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Originally Posted by Dakar²
I'm asking what you were expecting other than an opinion.
haha... that one slipped by. It's nothing but opinion.
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Originally Posted by osiris
haha... that one slipped by. It's nothing but opinion.
Right, so I was a little confused why you felt the need to point it out.
Anyway, I guess my vote to the original question is 'neither'
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Maybe it's a cultural issue, but I don't quite understand this word banning thing. People are racist, not words. Words are just empty vehicles: if one is not adequate anymore, it will be replaced. As long as racism exists, new vehicles will be made to express it.
As for viewing this ban just as a symbolic sign, I actually think this ban does nothing but give "******" a stronger, more powerful meaning. Since it is considered an offensive word -and as such not used colloquially- further restricting its use (in a compulsory or non compulsory way) will strengthen its impact when uttered. The only way I see this as symbolic is just to acknowledge a social problem, but doing nothing to solve it (even maybe by making it worse).
I think all this political correctness behavior en up strengthening the problems it -supposedly- is meant to solve. As an Argentine (native of Buenos Aires), political correctness is something that have always stroke me. There is no such a thing here. If someone -anyone- is a little 'tinted', he'll instantly be called "el negro"; a jew, "el ruso" (many jewish immigrants had russian surnames); any asian, disregarding his origins, "el chino", and so on. Such things are never offensive in any way, and are not taken as being offensive when said colloquially. Nevertheless those nicknames can be used in an offensive way but, again, the meaning is in the person and not in the word.
I strongly believe this word banning is no other thing that a way to dissociate the people from the problem and attach it to the words instead; a very perverse mechanism in my opinion.
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Man, this is being posted a lot lately:
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I thought insults were protected under the 1st.
But states do have the right to disreguard the bill of rights.
NY should ban ALL dispareging words while they're at it.
Redneck, cracker, spook, gook, etc...
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I'm sure they'll be a loophole for rappers and comedians.
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Originally Posted by osiris
I'm sure they'll be a loophole for rappers and comedians.
Dave Chappell had that covered with the "N*gger Family." Funny as hell. 
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