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Aug 1, 2018, 12:22 PM
 
Have we had a beer thread before? We should have a beer thread.

     
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Aug 1, 2018, 12:32 PM
 
I've been very partial to this lately...



I'm a huge fan of citra-hopped IPAs, but in the summer the ABV can be a bit too much, this is the best of both worlds.

When I don't mind getting a heady buzz on...



Doesn't taste like it's 8%, and the 16oz cans will sneak up on you, but this is pretty much the nectar of the gods.
     
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Aug 1, 2018, 02:59 PM
 
I can't do hops. Any time I have even a single IPA or pale ale I just end up with a pounding headache. So I stick to darker beers, stouts, porters, browns, ambers, bocks. If I want a lighter beer it's usually sours, saisons, shandys.

Another current favorite is Rogue's Hazelnut Brown Nectar

     
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I enjoy an occasional Nitro Milk Stout.
     
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Aug 1, 2018, 03:19 PM
 
I cannot do beer at all. Occasionally I have one of these:

     
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Taste? Allergies?
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
I enjoy an occasional Nitro Milk Stout.
My wife sticks to beers that are amber and lighter, but while she was nursing she got into Left Hand's Milk Stout - in theory the lactose helps with milk production. In practice, it was a good excuse to drink beer.
     
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I’ve been dabbling in the sours lately as well, I find them very refreshing with a meal.
     
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Honestly, I’m fine with an MGD. I’m not particularly sophisticated in the beer department.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I can't do hops. Any time I have even a single IPA or pale ale I just end up with a pounding headache.
That's my reaction to cheap domestic beer!

IPAs are a dime-a-dozen these days, with many companies offerings being quite pedestrian. I myself have been on the IPA train since my very first beer at 16, which was a Harpoon IPA my mom gave me a few sips of.

My favorite IPAs, besides the ones I just posted, are Harpoon, Sierra Nevada, Ballast Point Sculpin, and Mayflower. In fact Mayflower makes a damn good Golden Ale and Porter as well, worth a shot if you have it near you.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Taste? Allergies?
Allergies, I think. Years ago I discovered feeling hungover/headaches/nauseated right after drinking beer. Used to think it was crappy beer, but guinness etc is worse.

Might be gluten, lately other gluten things are troublesome.

Cider is tasty though.
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
That's my reaction to cheap domestic beer!
Light beer goes straaaaight through me and somehow multiplies on its way through. Any time I try to party and drink a few cheap beers I spend more time in the bathroom peeing out gallon after gallon.

In fact Mayflower makes a damn good Golden Ale and Porter as well, worth a shot if you have it near you.
Looks like they're New England-only.
     
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
Allergies, I think. Years ago I discovered feeling hungover/headaches/nauseated right after drinking beer. Used to think it was crappy beer, but guinness etc is worse.

Might be gluten, lately other gluten things are troublesome.

Cider is tasty though.


I have a friend with allergies who can stomach this. Maybe worth an experiment. It’s tasty.
     
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My wife loves those, Belgian fruit beers in particular and Belgian beers in general. It was her #1 request: after giving birth, she wanted to have a taste of Belgian beer after months of abstention. I'm really proud of her, ever since getting together with me, she has developed a palate for beers.
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Like now, when its hot, hotter than usual for summer I do love beers from the hotter european countries. I guess they are lighter but chilled they seem way more refreshing than the stronger domestic brands. Right now I'm keen on Estrella and Peroni. Not by any means "drinkers beers" but they suit the climate.
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Just because, I’ll get a Peroni at an Italian place, or Hillas at a Greek place, etc.

In that vein, don’t get a Corona, people. Dos Equis is like, actually decent.
     
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Aug 7, 2018, 10:45 PM
 
My go to site for brew reviews.
https://www.beeradvocate.com/
I found out that most American lagers are "adjunct" corn beers, the exception being Bud and Coors, they use rice in the mash. They use just enough malted barley to still be called beer.

As far as national brews, I'm partial to the New Belgium stuff. We have several top notch local breweries here. I'm partial to Four Peaks' Kilt Lifter Scottish ale.
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Aug 7, 2018, 11:31 PM
 
Beer snob here. Really dig the Belgian beers (trappist, sour, etc.) and super hoppy IPAs. Sorta burnt out on imperial stouts.
     
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Visited a brewery in MN this weekend.



Tried a whole bunch of them, brought home a few crowlers.

     
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Rolling Rock.
     
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I'm craving some beer. Heineken will do.
     
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A big fan of Sip, however, Peak organics' "The Juice" has been my go to brew.

Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
I've been very partial to this lately...



I'm a huge fan of citra-hopped IPAs, but in the summer the ABV can be a bit too much, this is the best of both worlds.

When I don't mind getting a heady buzz on...



Doesn't taste like it's 8%, and the 16oz cans will sneak up on you, but this is pretty much the nectar of the gods.
     
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Mango Cart is pretty delicious with subtle fruitiness ... reminds me of a fruity hefe ... Down to Earth is a simple IPA with all of the bitterness and none of the excessive alcohol content ... both are my favorite for my ability to crush a ton without feeling too wasted

mildly over IPA's as well ... why do they continue to persist in such overabundance? Why hasn't the hype died? WHY??!?
     
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On the Kavanaugh Scale of Beer Appreciation, I consistently test at around 3 centiKavanaughs (28 milliKavanaughs).

In freedom units we’ll call it 1/32 Kavanaugh.
     
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Oct 18, 2018, 05:30 AM
 
I feel like we’re at peak IPA, and I’m sensing blowback.
     
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I remember in 2007 when some friends were beyond excited that we were finally able to get Fat Tire in Iowa. Today, the craft beer crowd will often bitch and moan about how bland and basic and boring it is.

Ten years ago, a six pack of craft beer was $6-7. I could get Shiner Bock for $5.50. Now at the grocery store, the "standard" price for a six pack is $9.99, "good" stuff is ~$12 and the "Wow! Such sale!" price for most six packs is $8.

For something that cost $7 in 2008, after inflation I'd expect it to run $8.20 today. As demand for craft beer has risen, they've been able to push prices higher and higher. Breweries are opening left and right to the point of oversaturation.

And it seems that a large part of the market is driven by novelty. Quad-IPA! A billion IBUs! 110% ABV! Your lips literally melt when they touch the beer! Limited release! Stand in line for six days for the chance to pay $150 for half a bottle of what we captured when we wrung out the mop we used to the clean the brewing tanks!

I think you're right - we're reaching peak IPA, but maybe peak craft beer, too. There's only so many hops, or such a high ABV you can put in a beer before it's undrinkable by all but the most dedicated "connoisseurs."

I assume the fad will eventually level out, but the in meantime I'm still finding myself paying $12 for Rogue's Hazelnut Brown Nectar, because that shit is tasty.
     
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Am I old now? Does complaining about how much things cost these days make me old?
     
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Oct 18, 2018, 09:44 AM
 
I've always avoided "quad" or "imperial" anything. I've never found any of them even remotely palatable. I agree about prices, but I think it's just an inevitable turn when something becomes as popular as craft beer is. I do wonder, though, how conglomerates like AB-InBev buying-up craft breweries affects pricing? Those guys are notorious for forcing actual small brewers off the store shelves.

Obviously, buying by the growler is the most economical way to go, but that also means you have to drink all 64oz more-or-less immediately. I'm old. I can't do that anymore.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Am I old now? Does complaining about how much things cost these days make me old?
I think the only solution to complaining about prices is to start brewing it yourself. That seems to be a middle-aged man thing to do, so you're not quite there yet.
     
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As someone who is definitely not into the "hops for the sake of hops" trend these are a couple of local STL brews that I enjoy:





http://4handsbrewery.com

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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
I think the only solution to complaining about prices is to start brewing it yourself. That seems to be a middle-aged man thing to do, so you're not quite there yet.
I’ve heard the easiest thing to brew yourself is an IPA.
     
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Originally Posted by Thorzdad View Post
Obviously, buying by the growler is the most economical way to go, but that also means you have to drink all 64oz more-or-less immediately. I'm old. I can't do that anymore.
Growlers are the same/more expensive per oz than six packs, at least at my local grocery store. A six pack of bottles is 72oz, and they're charging $10-12 to fill a 64oz growler. $8-20+ seems to be the standard for growler fills from microbreweries.

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I think the only solution to complaining about prices is to start brewing it yourself. That seems to be a middle-aged man thing to do, so you're not quite there yet.
I have the books and started gathering tools and bottles at one point, but after considering the time, space, and final $/oz I gave up on the idea and dumped the 60-some bottles I had gathered and sanitized into the recycling. I still have my capper lying around somewhere. The ingredients for a 1-gallon brew cost $15-25 and make less beer than 2 six-packs, so you're losing money. The five gallon kits are $20-50, and make the equivalent of about 8 six packs, so after a few brews you'd paid off the $100+ initial outlay in tools and supplies, but now you have to store the supplies. Plus you better like cleaning, because like 80% of brewing is just cleaning buckets, pots, and tubes. But don't you want to keg your beer? It's so much better and easier than bottling! Oops, there goes $1000 on kegs, gas, a keezer, an electronic temperature controller, and more.

It's the same reason I didn't get into guns - I don't need another expensive and time consuming hobby, I have plenty of those already!
     
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Somewhat similarly, I stay away from guns because I’m ultimately a total pig and don’t want to deal with cleaning them.

I have a small knife collection, and they’re all titanium so I don’t have to worry about rust.
     
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A good friend recently traveled to Wisconsin for a wedding, and brought back a few of the local brews. I really liked the New Glarus Moon Man No Coast Pale Ale. Very delicious and definitely not a hop-bomb in the least. A really good session ale. I’d love to get my hands on more, and add it to my little house rotation.
     
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Tell me you got Spotted Cow.
     
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New Glarus makes some great fruit beers too.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Tell me you got Spotted Cow.
Moon Man was the only one from New Glarus.

I also had Woodtick IPA from Brewster Bros. It was about as hop-forward as I can handle in an IPA. I keep Bell's Two-Hearted as one of my house beers, and would say Woodtick is more in-your-face hoppy than that. Probably similar to a Founders Centennial. The Bell's has a better hop-to-malt balance, imho.
     
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With New Clarus, my favorites are Hair of the Cow IPA and Moof lager.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I think you're right - we're reaching peak IPA, but maybe peak craft beer, too. There's only so many hops, or such a high ABV you can put in a beer before it's undrinkable by all but the most dedicated "connoisseurs."
In the 90s, I used to drink this as a ploy to seem interesting.



Good Christ it was awful.
     
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I live literally about 2 hours from Shiner, Texas, and I've been to their brewery. It's lovely, and they have all sorts of newer beers. Newer than my all-time favorite of theirs, Shiner Bock. That was the first "not a huge brand" beer, by the way. And even here, a 6-pack costs the same for any of the Spoetzl beers as for any others...

I've lately been going for chocolate stouts. The one I like best is Young's, which is made with grain toasted "to a chocolate colour" then brewed with real chocolate. There's another one, Samuel Smith's Organic Chocolate Stout that gives Young's some good competition. Otherwise, most of the time it's Shiner.

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I have family in Houston who turned me on to Shiner. Good stuff.
     
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I've been a fan of Shiner Bock for years.

Recently discovered this one. Pleasantly surprised.
     
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I’ll be enjoying some 3 Floyds Yum Yum tonight.

     
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This is my 3F go-to.

Not really an ale person, but I like this.

When people ask me to “bring beer”, I go with this and the Nitro milk stout.
     
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For certain definitions of “European”.
     
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That’s some mighty affordable beer over there.
     
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Here’s the US by case.



Assuming that’s cans, and I did the math right, the conversion rate to 0.5l in Euros is divide by 9.71. We can call that 10 I think.
     
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I don’t think your math is right.

A 24 case of 12oz cans/bottles is the equivalent of about 7.92 liters. 12 oz is roughly 0.33 liters.

So a 24 pack contains 15.84 half liters.

On top, for FX, let’s assume EUR 1.00 equals USD 1.15.
So the US prices above needs to be divided by 15.82 and 1.15 = 18.22

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I don’t think your math is right.
Wouldn’t be the first time.

I think I multiplied instead of divided with the exchange.
     
 
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