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budster101 · Aug 10, 2005, 04:08 PM

9/11 Commission is scathing mad about how during the Clinton Administration, knew about Mohamad Atta, and three others one year before 9/11... they were taking lessons in flight schools and were under investigation, and the 9/11 commission was not privey to this information. Accident? On purpose?

More to come as the story breaks...

Intersting notes about Al Queda and Links to Saddam Hussein:

http://richwatch.net/sadam911.htm

Atomic Rooster · Aug 10, 2005, 04:13 PM

Yawn!

budster101 · Aug 10, 2005, 04:24 PM

Really. You mean it's boring to you that the Clinton Administration could have avoided 9/11?
Wow.

Thanks for your contribution.

Millennium · Aug 10, 2005, 05:16 PM

No, they really couldn't have. Although Atta and the others were under suspicion, there wasn't enough evidence to arrest them. That's what presumption of innocence means. I'm no fan of Clinton's, but I can't fault his administration for respecting due process in this case.

budster101 · Aug 10, 2005, 06:06 PM

Actually, they quashed it because it just happend after WACO and all eyes were on the Whitehouse, so the lawyers for the Administration put stickies over the faces of these four men... because they had 'legitimate' Visas...

So, because they messed up at WACO they decided to play it safe and wrong again in this case. Furthermore they kept this information from the 9/11 commission. Was that an accidental ommission or was it on purpose?

They were under investigation and they didn't share the information. When more information is released we will know the depths to wich the Clinton Administration didn't go in order to keep our country safe.

They HAD OBL in their sites and could have had him, but they said no. Clinton is on tape saying no...

It's not just this one thing, but it's sickening how BUSH is getting ripped for the war in IRAQ, and this may have been avoided if not for the idiocy prior to his Presidency, and during it with the UN and the OIL for FOOD scandal.

BRussell · Aug 11, 2005, 10:49 AM

This is an interesting story. But Waco? Wasn't that in the first month of the Clinton administration? And this Atta thing would have been in the last months? Also remember that if the DoD didn't turn over information about this, that was Bush's DoD by that time, not Clinton's. If this is true then you can blame the Clinton admin. for not pursuing Atta enough, but you can't blame them for hiding info from the 9/11 commission. There was no Clinton admin. when the 9/11 commission did its work.

Mark Larr · Aug 11, 2005, 11:20 AM

There was a wall to keep information from passing to law enforcement from intelligence.

That filthy proven liar Klinton was setting us up for a disaster.

CRASH HARDDRIVE · Aug 11, 2005, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by BRussell

This is an interesting story. But Waco? Wasn't that in the first month of the Clinton administration? And this Atta thing would have been in the last months? Also remember that if the DoD didn't turn over information about this, that was Bush's DoD by that time, not Clinton's. If this is true then you can blame the Clinton admin. for not pursuing Atta enough, but you can't blame them for hiding info from the 9/11 commission. There was no Clinton admin. when the 9/11 commission did its work.

Unless the DoD switched its entire staff when Bush took over, the same people were probably behind this regardless of which Presidential administration was in power.

Gee-Man · Aug 11, 2005, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by budster101

Really. You mean it's boring to you that the Clinton Administration could have avoided 9/11?
Wow.

Thanks for your contribution.

Remember, kids - anything bad that has happened in the past 13 years, no matter what it is, should always be blamed on Clinton.

Clinton couldn't have "avoided" 9/11 any more than Bush could have. They both had access to information that in 20/20 hindsight led to the highjackers but at the time could not be fully predicted.

BRussell · Aug 11, 2005, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE

Unless the DoD switched its entire staff when Bush took over, the same people were probably behind this regardless of which Presidential administration was in power.

I've been reading on this a bit, and Weldon has been talking about this since before the 9/11 commission. So it's really not true that the information was hidden from them. In addition, the intelligence person who told Weldon about this says he talked to the commission, but they weren't interested, presumably because they either didn't believe it or for some reason didn't think it was important. An article.

Y3a · Aug 11, 2005, 02:34 PM

The TOOLS to know things were forged in the past. The wall the Klinton admin put up was damage to the tool so we didn't know the truth. with so many things to fix that 8 years of Reno, Clinton et al had ruined it's no wonder it was not fixed by "W" in time. So instead of good intel, we got crap, and made decisions on it as if it was good. Clinton and his admin DO GET THE BLAME. They did NOTHING to protect us.

Planet_EN · Aug 11, 2005, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

Yawn!

same here ...

Millennium · Aug 12, 2005, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by BRussell

This is an interesting story. But Waco? Wasn't that in the first month of the Clinton administration?

No, but it was near the end of his first term, some six years before 9/11 and five years before the time frame which this report mentions. Columbine happened around this time, and it occurred on the anniversary of Waco, but drawing a parallel between Columbine and Atta is going to be a lot more difficult.

BRussell · Aug 12, 2005, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Millennium

No, but it was near the end of his first term, some six years before 9/11 and five years before the time frame which this report mentions. Columbine happened around this time, and it occurred on the anniversary of Waco, but drawing a parallel between Columbine and Atta is going to be a lot more difficult.

The Waco incident took place about a month after Clinton's 1993 inauguration.

budster101 · Aug 12, 2005, 04:24 PM

Which forever changed how the Clinton Administration dealt with anyone... it's why they let OBL slip through their fingers, and why we became unsafe.... because they messed up big time.

It's sick.

Millennium · Aug 12, 2005, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

Which forever changed how the Clinton Administration dealt with anyone...

Insofar as that, for a little while, they actually respected things like the Fourth Amendment. In time they forgot this lesson, as they started advocating things like Clipper, but at least for a while they came to their senses.