Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

- - e r i k - - · Aug 25, 2003, 07:47 AM

Chalk up another satisfied 17"-owner with a twice as fast drive. Just like Steve promised when they were introduced

Spheric Harlot · Aug 25, 2003, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by iMacfan:
Just a quick question: Will the update screw around with my region setting - just that I'm in the UK and don't want to end up with a region 1 only drive!

Thanks,

David

My Euro-DVDs work just fine, still.

Never crossed my mind, but the computer didn't throw up a dialog box or anything, either.

should be fine.

-s

slugslugslug · Aug 28, 2003, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by juanpacolopez:
If your Ti isn't burning at correct speed....

SEND IT IN!!!!!!

Since it came out in November last year, you can't be past your warranty yet. Run immediately to your nearest Apple store and/or call Apple and get that fixed before it's too late!

Well, I sent it in (again), and this time they actually did something to it, because I finally burned a CD at 8x for the first time (before that 8x never worked and 4x had something like a 50% coaster rate..)

I'm not sure if they actually replaced the drive or just the firmware (was D0C4, now D0CB), but now my pointer hovers over the D101 updater. Should I or shouldn't I?

Because now that I have a working internal CD burner after 9 months, I'm a little nervous about doing anything to it...

GlobalNomad · Aug 28, 2003, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by slugslugslug:
Well, I sent it in (again), and this time they actually did something to it, because I finally burned a CD at 8x for the first time (before that 8x never worked and 4x had something like a 50% coaster rate..)

I'm not sure if they actually replaced the drive or just the firmware (was D0C4, now D0CB), but now my pointer hovers over the D101 updater. Should I or shouldn't I?

Because now that I have a working internal CD burner after 9 months, I'm a little nervous about doing anything to it...

Why not just hold back for a while. Enjoy your new found speed for about a month and if you still feel like doing it go for it.

all2ofme · Aug 29, 2003, 03:03 AM

Doesn't the downgrader take the drive back to DOCB? If I had a DWDB downgrader for my 17" I would have run the updater ages ago.

Originally posted by slugslugslug:
I'm not sure if they actually replaced the drive or just the firmware (was D0C4, now D0CB), but now my pointer hovers over the D101 updater. Should I or shouldn't I?

Because now that I have a working internal CD burner after 9 months, I'm a little nervous about doing anything to it...

Eug Wanker · Aug 29, 2003, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by all2ofme:
Doesn't the downgrader take the drive back to DOCB?

Yes. I haven't tried it yet though.

NY152 · Aug 29, 2003, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Yes. I haven't tried it yet though.

Eug, seeing as I am one of the people with a 17" PowerBook I have yet to try the firmware upgrade mainly because there is no downgrade path yet.

Do you think there is hope for the future that I will be able to downgrade my SuperDrive to its original firmware after upgrade?

Thanks

NY152

///Milien · Aug 29, 2003, 12:14 PM

Hello all.

Like NY152, I am a little hesistant of doing the firmware upgrade without some type of downgrade path. I just got the PB 17 days ago and absolutely love it.

GlobalNomad · Aug 29, 2003, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by ///Milien:
Hello all.

Like NY152, I am a little hesistant of doing the firmware upgrade without some type of downgrade path. I just got the PB 17 days ago and absolutely love it.

The only improvment you would see is 2x DVD-r.
Does anyone know if the 17" PowerBook also makes the double start up check noise with the D101?

Oh and by the way, welcom to MacNN

.

tritonus · Aug 30, 2003, 05:11 AM

Maybe there will be another Apple-certified firmware update for this:

http://www.macosrumors.com/

"Panther to support DVD+R/DVD+RW: In recent builds of Panther (7B49 notably), the Finder has been built with icons to properly display DVD+R/W discs mounted on the desktop. Although Apple's firmware for its various Superdrive vendors disables DVD-RW and the "DVD+" formats where supported by the drive hardware itself, this is a strong indication that Apple may be planning to support those standards in the near future. Whether this development will apply only to certain new machines or will be useable on any Superdrive is still not known, but hopes are high that this will soon no longer be an achilles heel of the platform."

Frankle1 · Aug 30, 2003, 10:01 PM

has anyone tried this with the drives from Macresq? I just ordered one and was wondering.
Thanks

Adham · Sep 1, 2003, 12:24 AM

The firmware upgrade works great for my 12" PB w/Superdrive too - now able to use DVD-RW from Toast with no problem. One question is coming up for me though - I just got Retrospect, hoping to use it to back up to DVD-RW. When I try to perform backup to it on either DVD-RW or CD-R though, I get the error "No disk storage devices found", even though the bus scan Retrospect performs does see the Superdrive.

Not having had Retrospect prior to upgrading the firmware, I'm not sure where the problem might lie. Is anybody else out there using a firmware-upgraded Superdrive to backup to DVD-RW using Retrospect?

Adham

Jalu · Sep 16, 2003, 06:37 AM

Looking at the specs of the new 12" 1 GHz PowerBook, it seems that the ideas of some that Apple had just crippled the "old" 12" Superdrive's firmware were true. Because the new 12" seems to have exactly the specs of the D101 firmware (16x CD burning and 2x DVD-R burning)...

parsec_kadets · Sep 16, 2003, 10:12 PM

I'm just wondering if anyone has been brave enough to try this in Panther yet.

RoofusPennymore · Sep 16, 2003, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by parsec_kadets:
I'm just wondering if anyone has been brave enough to try this in Panther yet.

I ran pather on my PB via an external drive and it didnt at least complain. But it crashed to often to be able to burn anything.

todrain · Sep 16, 2003, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by parsec_kadets:
I'm just wondering if anyone has been brave enough to try this in Panther yet.

I kept a copy of the downgrader, just in case!

nobitacu · Sep 17, 2003, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by tritonus:
Same here. Especially if you have a 17" PowerBook. An official update supported by Apple makes me feel better.

edit: Whoa, missed juanpacolopez's post.

Yup, that's what I'm waiting for.

Ming

tritonus · Sep 17, 2003, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by nobitacu:
Yup, that's what I'm waiting for.

Ming

Maybe PeterKG can tell us the firmware of the Rev. B 17" PB.

all2ofme · Sep 17, 2003, 06:15 PM

Well if it's of any interest to you all the new 15" seems to have a UJ-816 drive (!) with DXJ3 firmware:

http://www.toddbuchanan.com/albook/s...ls/devices.jpg

Do all of the new 'books burn at 2x?

Eug · 06:23 PM

Originally posted by all2ofme:
Well if it's of any interest to you all the new 15" seems to have a UJ-816 drive (!) with DXJ3 firmware:

http://www.toddbuchanan.com/albook/s...ls/devices.jpg

Do all of the new 'books burn at 2x?

Kewl! I wonder what the difference is.

This deserves a new thread.

Spheric Harlot · Sep 19, 2003, 02:30 PM

STILL getting the double startup check sound thing.

Resetting the power manager didn't do anything.

Anybody else found a solution?

-s*

Eug · Sep 19, 2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
STILL getting the double startup check sound thing.

Resetting the power manager didn't do anything.

Anybody else found a solution?

-s*

Quite frankly, I haven't bothered checking, because I don't really care either way.

My burns and reads work great, and that's all that matters.

pamelah · Sep 19, 2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
STILL getting the double startup check sound thing.

-s*

Maybe the double sounds confirms that your burning at 2x now?! hahaha I'd be happy that you're hearing that sound!!

Spheric Harlot · Sep 20, 2003, 06:25 AM

So everybody else is still getting them too?

I just find it mildly disconcerting, is all.

Everything works fine here, too.

-s*

Eug Wanker · Sep 20, 2003, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Chalk up another satisfied 17"-owner with a twice as fast drive. Just like Steve promised when they were introduced

I'm glad you're happy, but I still don't recommend that 17" 1 GHz PB owners use this flash, because there is no downgrade path for it. The only downgrade is D0CB, which is used in the TiBooks and 12" 867 MHz PBs.

cynikal · Sep 22, 2003, 06:32 PM

You asked for it, you've got it..

the 17" pb firmware downgrade is now available.

same place as always, http://superdrive.cynikal.net/

b3t4 · Sep 22, 2003, 06:42 PM

man you rock. seriously.

yipiiiiiieeeeee i will try this tomorrow. this is great.

thank you man.

how many people did you make happy with your work???

beta

cynikal · Sep 22, 2003, 06:52 PM

i lost count

i guess in the hundreds.. it feels gooooood being able to do something on this scale for so many people.. many thanks for all the praise

Eug · Sep 22, 2003, 09:59 PM

Excellent!

By the way, anyone have problems running DWDB on a TiBook?

cynikal · Sep 23, 2003, 01:28 AM

Nope, i'm using it now.. burned a cd too but my media is only 8x

chabig · Sep 23, 2003, 01:44 AM

Cynikal,

You say the new 17" firmware downgrade may be useful for 12" owners as well. I take it that in that case, it's not really a downgrade, but more of a semi-upgrade. Is that what you meant?

Chris

JasonPro · Sep 23, 2003, 11:22 PM

I'm confused... so this firmware isn't rpc1... but I installed it and can still play all my region 1 dvds. Am I incorrect in assuming that rpc stands for region protection coding or something? If it is then why can I still play region 1 stuff? Or, does rpc1 stand for something else that is completely region free?

--
Jason

JasonPro · Sep 23, 2003, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by JasonPro:
I'm confused... so this firmware isn't rpc1... but I installed it and can still play all my region 1 dvds. Am I incorrect in assuming that rpc stands for region protection coding or something? If it is then why can I still play region 1 stuff? Or, does rpc1 stand for something else that is completely region free?

--
Jason

Nevermind... got it:
RPC-1 = A region free firmware
RPC-2 = An original firmware and not region free

BUT, I'm still confused then about how someone (too lazy to quote earlier in the thread) was able to play uk region 2 and I can still play us region 1. Anyone have insight into this?

--
Jason

Eug Wanker · Sep 23, 2003, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by JasonPro:
I'm still confused then about how someone (too lazy to quote earlier in the thread) was able to play uk region 2 and I can still play us region 1. Anyone have insight into this?

Most drives should have something like 4 or 5 region switches. After that the drive locks into the last region used.

dreamBweaver · Sep 24, 2003, 01:48 AM

Do CDs get ripped faster with this patch? I have an 867 PB12" SuperDrive

Spheric Harlot · Sep 24, 2003, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by dreamBweaver:
Do CDs get ripped faster with this patch? I have an 867 PB12" SuperDrive

No. This firmware upgrade only affects burn speeds.

-s*

parsec_kadets · Sep 24, 2003, 02:05 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Now if only I hadn't sent my PB to Apple today because the fan was making buzzing sounds I would install it pronto.

dreamBweaver · Sep 24, 2003, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
No. This firmware upgrade only affects burn speeds.

-s*

Thanks for the info!

all2ofme · Oct 1, 2003, 06:19 AM

Does anyone know if the UJ-815 (using any of the firmware revisions) will read +R and +R/W the way the new machines do?

See here.