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design219 · 09:36 AM

CCTV International

—Gong Li (...she is "average"...)
"Huang Shengyi has a horse face"

Wow, the Chinese are tough critics of their female stars.

RAILhead · Apr 24, 2007, 11:14 PM

"Zhang Baizhi's face is perfect too, but her voice is terrible, just like a weight lifter."

Teronzhul · Apr 24, 2007, 11:16 PM

The ones they referred to as average I find the most attractive. Hmm.

design219 · Apr 24, 2007, 11:17 PM

I think they are all attractive and these critics are nutz.

zro · Apr 24, 2007, 11:31 PM

Perhaps they just have a differing sense of beauty than us.

iREZ · Apr 25, 2007, 12:40 AM

perhaps the critics are all men with more than 3 brothers...

highstakes · Apr 25, 2007, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

"Zhang Baizhi's face is perfect too, but her voice is terrible, just like a weight lifter."

Gong Li looks good to me

Chuckit · Apr 25, 2007, 02:19 AM

The Chinese think Gong Li is unattractive because she has thick lips? That seals it — they are all gay over there.

Whoa, and that girl they say is almost perfect? She doesn't hold a candle to Gong Li.

aristotles · Apr 25, 2007, 03:04 AM

Lips are too thick? I guess they must think Jessica Alba is ugly then?

riley46 · Apr 25, 2007, 06:34 AM

I began to think they (critics) are seeing it differently. Maybe, they are jealous and don't want to flaunt their beautiful women to the eyes of the world.

Dakarʒ · Apr 25, 2007, 08:30 AM

Did Gong Li even have lips?

Uncle Skeleton · Apr 25, 2007, 11:00 AM

Maybe the phrases used don't have the same degree of negativity that we're ascribing to them. English is clearly not the first language of the writer. Maybe they're just mild idioms in Chinese. Anyone here speak Chinese?

Dakarʒ · Apr 25, 2007, 11:03 AM

Personally, the writer came off as being 14. Obviously something was lost in translation.

Cipher13 · Apr 25, 2007, 11:46 AM

"Zhao Wei's eyes are really beautiful. So you always worry if her contact lens will fall out of her eyes. But her face is not delicate enough. She has a big mouth, a big nose and a big face. Her teeth are not very white."

Hmmm...

centerchannel68 · Apr 25, 2007, 01:43 PM

More pictures of hot chinese girls not wearing a lot:

Shanghai Motor Show: Girls of Shanghai Gallery - Autoblog

Gossamer · Apr 25, 2007, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by aristotles

Lips are too thick? I guess they must think Jessica Alba is ugly then?

Angelina Jolie would have been stoned to death with a paper bag on her head.

Dakarʒ · Apr 25, 2007, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Angelina Jolie would have been stoned to death with a paper bag on her head.

Maybe this is not a bad thing after all.

highstakes · Apr 25, 2007, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Angelina Jolie would have been stoned to death with a paper bag on her head.

luntan · Apr 28, 2007, 11:40 PM

You guys are really funny, I'm Chinese, in our point of view, big eyes, small mouth are beautiful.

design219 · Apr 29, 2007, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by luntan

You guys are really funny, I'm Chinese, in our point of view, big eyes, small mouth are beautiful.

Yeah, that's kinda the anime look. Is that a general astetic in oriental cultures?

I think in western culture, beauty is not so constrained. It seems that symmetry is more important, and if that is there, large lips or small lips, large eyes or small eyes are fine.

- - e r i k - - · Apr 29, 2007, 08:50 AM

"Zhao Wei's eyes are really beautiful. So you always worry if her contact lens will fall out of her eyes." WTF?

- - e r i k - - · Apr 29, 2007, 08:50 AM

"Liu Yifei's face is very delicate, but her eyes are not expressive."

Paging Cash. Cash to this thread. Over.

Laminar · Apr 29, 2007, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

"Liu Yifei's face is very delicate, but her eyes are not expressive."

Paging Cash. Cash to this thread. Over.

He wanted to.

http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...e/#post3365852

©öñFü$íóÑ · Apr 29, 2007, 12:43 PM

I find pretty much all of the women on that site to be VERY attractive, despite what those guys say. And dude... speaking of those guys, where do they get their bluntness from? Simon Cowell?

luntan · Apr 29, 2007, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

"Zhao Wei's eyes are really beautiful. So you always worry if her contact lens will fall out of her eyes." WTF?

Because her eyes are so big that contact lens are smaller than her eyes, we think big eyes are beautiful.

butterfly0fdoom · Apr 29, 2007, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by ©öñFü$íóÑ

I find pretty much all of the women on that site to be VERY attractive, despite what those guys say. And dude... speaking of those guys, where do they get their bluntness from? Simon Cowell?

Chinese people (especially those on the Mainland) tend to be blunt in speech. That's just the way we are. Moms say stuff to their daughters like, "Your face is too ugly; men will never love you and you'll die alone." Seriously. Or stuff like, "Your cooking tastes like crap; men will never love you and you'll die alone." Moms talking to their daughters epitomizes Chinese bluntness.

Railroader · Apr 29, 2007, 09:59 PM

Creepy.

- - e r i k - - · Apr 29, 2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by luntan

Because her eyes are so big that contact lens are smaller than her eyes, we think big eyes are beautiful.

Well, that makes marginally more sense then.

nonhuman · Apr 29, 2007, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by butterfly0fdoom

Chinese people (especially those on the Mainland) tend to be blunt in speech. That's just the way we are. Moms say stuff to their daughters like, "Your face is too ugly; men will never love you and you'll die alone." Seriously. Or stuff like, "Your cooking tastes like crap; men will never love you and you'll die alone." Moms talking to their daughters epitomizes Chinese bluntness.

This is so incredibly true, it's hard to believe if you haven't actually been to China (or interacted with people who grew up there). It's one of those things that makes you realize just how ethnocentric our concepts of culture really are.

monkeybrain · Apr 29, 2007, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by butterfly0fdoom

Chinese people (especially those on the Mainland) tend to be blunt in speech. That's just the way we are. Moms say stuff to their daughters like, "Your face is too ugly; men will never love you and you'll die alone." Seriously. Or stuff like, "Your cooking tastes like crap; men will never love you and you'll die alone." Moms talking to their daughters epitomizes Chinese bluntness.

Yes I agree it is true, even so in the more Westernized Taiwan. For instance I know a Taiwanese guy who was routinely told by his parents that he was a mistake (i.e. not planned), just to tease him, but it was true.

I wouldn't be surprised if those comments about the women are the same, partly in jest. Certainly eyes are very important, eyelid surgery is very common across Asia.

aristotles · Apr 29, 2007, 11:13 PM

People from different cultures have different ideals of beauty. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

butterfly0fdoom · Apr 29, 2007, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by monkeybrain

Yes I agree it is true, even so in the more Westernized Taiwan. For instance I know a Taiwanese guy who was routinely told by his parents that he was a mistake (i.e. not planned), just to tease him, but it was true.

I wouldn't be surprised if those comments about the women are the same, partly in jest. Certainly eyes are very important, eyelid surgery is very common across Asia.

Parents actually threaten to disown their children if they fail to meet academic standards. And constantly demean their children, calling them worthless pieces of **** if they can't live up to expectations. It's just the Chinese culture.

Laminar · Apr 29, 2007, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by aristotles

People from different cultures have different ideals of beauty. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Hopefully that eye is not so big that its contact falls out.

smacintush · Apr 30, 2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by butterfly0fdoom

Parents actually threaten to disown their children if they fail to meet academic standards. And constantly demean their children, calling them worthless pieces of **** if they can't live up to expectations. It's just the Chinese culture.

Huh.

So if Alec Baldwin were from China…it would be "just part of his culture" ?

nonhuman · Apr 30, 2007, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by monkeybrain

I wouldn't be surprised if those comments about the women are the same, partly in jest. Certainly eyes are very important, eyelid surgery is very common across Asia.

I can't stand that surgery. The people who get it always look, to me, like they're really surprised all the time.

design219 · Apr 30, 2007, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

I can't stand that surgery. The people who get it always look, to me, like they're really surprised all the time.

Weird. I've never heard of this surgery. Is this to get that "anime" look?

Laminar · Apr 30, 2007, 01:31 PM

I think it has something to do with an eyelid wrinkle. Google will tell me.
Meronk - Asian Double Eyelid Blepharoplasty Surgery Photos

invisibleX · Apr 30, 2007, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

I think it has something to do with an eyelid wrinkle. Google will tell me.
Meronk - Asian Double Eyelid Blepharoplasty Surgery Photos

Is it just me, or do they look far better in the "before"?

Chuckit · Apr 30, 2007, 04:16 PM

If you like the look of Asians, yes. If you admire European physical features, I don't see how you could prefer the befores.

design219 · Apr 30, 2007, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by invisibleX

Is it just me, or do they look far better in the "before"?

Yeah, I was thinking that too. But I've always thought oriental women were attractive.

Hash · Apr 30, 2007, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

Well, that makes marginally more sense then.

Man, this does not make any sense at all. The fact that she has big eyes has nothing to do with contact lenses falling out.

Hash · Apr 30, 2007, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by butterfly0fdoom

Parents actually threaten to disown their children if they fail to meet academic standards. And constantly demean their children, calling them worthless pieces of **** if they can't live up to expectations. It's just the Chinese culture.

I guess if you repeat for a quite long time, then you have another freak ready for another Virginia Tech tragedy.. speaking frankly, I do not think this is good for any kind of education

QuadG5Man · Apr 30, 2007, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Creepy.

Definitely creepy. I'm not sure what the frack is up with that, or whoever the freak it is that wrote the reviews, but the girls are all very beautiful.

butterfly0fdoom · Apr 30, 2007, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Hash

I guess if you repeat for a quite long time, then you have another freak ready for another Virginia Tech tragedy.. speaking frankly, I do not think this is good for any kind of education

If that were the case, we'd be hearing of a lot of school shootings in China (even the Communists would be able to hide such things from the world) and Taiwan. Which isn't the case.

That said, I think VT has more to do with teasing and bullying from peers than from pressure from parents.

vexborg · May 1, 2007, 04:05 AM

I'd 100% hit Zhao Wei...

Oisín · May 1, 2007, 06:13 AM

The “Oriental look” is indeed very unpopular in China. Big eyes, big nose, small lips, round face, that’s how to look. Most Chinese people, for instance, find Lucy Liu ugly, because of her large epethentic fold and sharp features.

And not all parents treat their children as described above, I’d have to say. There is a lot more bickering in general than here, at least, but I’ve yet to actually hear anyone I know being called worthless pieces of sh*t or mistakes because they fail to fulfil their parents’ academic expectations.

macintologist · May 1, 2007, 03:39 PM